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01-02-2007, 09:05 AM
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How does Grabs compare to Briere in terms of style and development at this stage?

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I sure as hell would like the Habs to call him up and try him on the second line with Kovalev and Samsonov right now.

Carb is too much patient with the second line, him and Gainey need to adress this issue right now.

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How does Grabs compare to Briere in terms of style and development at this stage?
I would say Grabo is in front of Briere if you compare them at the same age. But Briere went throught an attitude change that made him the player he is today, will this happen with Grabo? doubtful. However he can, imo, become the 60 pts per season 2nd line center we need.

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I sure as hell would like the Habs to call him up and try him on the second line with Kovalev and Samsonov right now.

Carb is too much patient with the second line, him and Gainey need to adress this issue right now.
Totally agree...but with such a good first 38 games, they can be patient...

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01-02-2007, 10:02 AM
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How does Grabs compare to Briere in terms of style and development at this stage?
Grabs doesn't always go down after initial contact and pretend to be a Flounder being put in a hot frying pan....

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I would say Grabo is in front of Briere if you compare them at the same age. But Briere went throught an attitude change that made him the player he is today, will this happen with Grabo? doubtful. However he can, imo, become the 60 pts per season 2nd line center we need.
Grabo is already one of the hardest working players I've seen. He doesn't seem like a cocky fellow either.

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Grabs doesn't always go down after initial contact and pretend to be a Flounder being put in a hot frying pan....
I'm glad someone else realized how much of a flopper Briere is. I *highly* dislike him.

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He isn't ready for a callup, if they do call him up, he might end up with a severe concussion. Theres no rush with him and he still has a lot of things to improve on.

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He isn't ready for a callup, if they do call him up, he might end up with a severe concussion. Theres no rush with him and he still has a lot of things to improve on.
Yeah he could get hurt for sure he plays with reckless abandon from what I have seen which is great he kind of reminds me a Theo Fleury ( a bit more tame) but a guns a blazing attitude.

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He isn't ready for a callup, if they do call him up, he might end up with a severe concussion. Theres no rush with him and he still has a lot of things to improve on.
Oh OK, so you say now if you play too hard and have almost a point a game you don't deserve to be called up...
This makes sense to me, thanks for clearing it up !!!!!
Oh No he might get a concussion, how dumb is this thought !!!!
He is a friggin hockey Playa, not a shuffleboard star...

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Oh OK, so you say now if you play too hard and have almost a point a game you don't deserve to be called up...
He is putting up points which is great to see, but his play over the last 5 or so games has been a fraction of what he is capable of. For a good stretch of games he looked fantastic, able to do whatever he wanted with the puck, worked hard both ends (if taking a few chances in his own zone) and he looked like he understood almost perfectly what he was supposed to do most of the time on the ice.

Lately, he has picked the puck up in the neutral zone, tried speeding between 4 opponents and either run out of room or lost the puck. Even if he has a winger in a position to make an easy pass to, he ignores it almost all the time. He hustles back through the neutral zone but in his own zone, he doesn't display the same determination as he did earlier in the season. At least twice his man has beaten him to the front of the Dogs net and scored a goal while Grabs coasted.

If I could make a top 10 highlight reel of the best offensive plays by the Hamilton Bulldogs so far this year, he would probably have 4 or 5 of them. He would also feature heavily on a top 10 of the most dangerous plays in his own zone. At the moment, he is a mixed bag and his current form does nothing to deserve a callup. If people are desperate for a callup from Hamilton? Lapierre, Ferland, Kostitsyn - pick one. Grabs is not ready just now. If he regains his top form and holds it over a month or so, I could see him being called up if the situation for a 2nd line centre in Montreal is desperate, but I don't think rushing him into the NHL would be a sure fire positive thing for him.

The point about him always getting crushed, I could argue either way. He does get hit hard, a lot and he could be a little more careful with how sets himself up to be hit. Fortunately, he has always gotten up, but there is a big difference between the AHL and NHL. But I remember from the Legends of Hockey DVD that someone said Maurice Richard would get himself killed on the ice the way he played and sometimes you should let a skilled player get his feet wet and learn to take care of himself. Grabs has the skill to play in the NHL, he just needs to learn how to use his speed to escape trouble, as opposed to skating into it at a quicker pace. He will be in the NHL soon enough, just not right now.

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He's got to be more careful going east to west, but the turnovers are a problem and he's been bad on faceoffs. Still imo he's the most exciting prospect in Hamilton, he can create offense with his speed, passing, hands, it's been a lot of fun watching him and can't wait to see how he progresses.

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01-02-2007, 01:27 PM
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He is putting up points which is great to see, but his play over the last 5 or so games has been a fraction of what he is capable of. For a good stretch of games he looked fantastic, able to do whatever he wanted with the puck, worked hard both ends (if taking a few chances in his own zone) and he looked like he understood almost perfectly what he was supposed to do most of the time on the ice.

Lately, he has picked the puck up in the neutral zone, tried speeding between 4 opponents and either run out of room or lost the puck. Even if he has a winger in a position to make an easy pass to, he ignores it almost all the time. He hustles back through the neutral zone but in his own zone, he doesn't display the same determination as he did earlier in the season. At least twice his man has beaten him to the front of the Dogs net and scored a goal while Grabs coasted.

If I could make a top 10 highlight reel of the best offensive plays by the Hamilton Bulldogs so far this year, he would probably have 4 or 5 of them. He would also feature heavily on a top 10 of the most dangerous plays in his own zone. At the moment, he is a mixed bag and his current form does nothing to deserve a callup. If people are desperate for a callup from Hamilton? Lapierre, Ferland, Kostitsyn - pick one. Grabs is not ready just now. If he regains his top form and holds it over a month or so, I could see him being called up if the situation for a 2nd line centre in Montreal is desperate, but I don't think rushing him into the NHL would be a sure fire positive thing for him.

The point about him always getting crushed, I could argue either way. He does get hit hard, a lot and he could be a little more careful with how sets himself up to be hit. Fortunately, he has always gotten up, but there is a big difference between the AHL and NHL. But I remember from the Legends of Hockey DVD that someone said Maurice Richard would get himself killed on the ice the way he played and sometimes you should let a skilled player get his feet wet and learn to take care of himself. Grabs has the skill to play in the NHL, he just needs to learn how to use his speed to escape trouble, as opposed to skating into it at a quicker pace. He will be in the NHL soon enough, just not right now.
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Grabo is already one of the hardest working players I've seen. He doesn't seem like a cocky fellow either.
I wasnt talking about cockyness or hard work.
I was talking about Determination and Confidence.

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Oh OK, so you say now if you play too hard and have almost a point a game you don't deserve to be called up...
This makes sense to me, thanks for clearing it up !!!!!
Oh No he might get a concussion, how dumb is this thought !!!!
He is a friggin hockey Playa, not a shuffleboard star...
How many games have you seen him play and where?

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Calling Grabs would mean, at this point, that Plekanec goes down on the depth chart by one spot -- I consider Bonk ahead of him -- and thus gets to center the 4th line, something that worked well in the past...

So we have Latendresse, Begin, Murray, Downey and even Lapierre (heck, if we're going to call a guy who can, on paper, play in the NHL, why not consider calling someone who's proven he can play?) battling for one spot. As long as the Habs do not have another able D-Men to play on the 2nd wave (or as long as there's no injuries on the blue line), Streit gets the other spot.

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Agreed...I would love to see Grabovsky.
He has great wheels and is a shooter

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How many games have you seen him play and where?
Well lets see living now in Fort Erie, I'd say ALMOST ALL their home games, so shut your pie hole...thnx


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Why not Grabovski !?

Why not just call him up and try him on 4th line and occasionnally somes shift on 2nd line !? He really have skills to perform at top levels , I just dont know if he learned the way of NA game ...

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Why not just call him up and try him on 4th line and occasionnally somes shift on 2nd line !? He really have skills to perform at top levels , I just dont know if he learned the way of NA game ...
He's just starting to work well at the AHL level, he's not NHL ready, and bringing him up might damage his progression.

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I would like to see what all the fuss is about, would love to see him play. Have never seen the guy play, like many of montreal's prospects. Does anyone think he is ready for next year?

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Grab is older than most rookies....he is 23. I say bring him up late in the year...final 20 games or so. Just enough to not interfer with his rookie status for next year

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