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12-01-2013, 06:29 PM
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All the New York teams suck!

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...20100127683722
Happy holidays, Greater New York sports fans!
Here's a lump of coal in your eye.
With the Jets and Giants crashing and burning (respectively), the star-laden Knicks and Nets battling for the Atlantic Division cellar, the Mets and Yankees playoff refugees, and the three local hockey teams far from title contention, 2013 feels like the worst year in the history of metropolitan sports.
But rest easy—it's only the worst since 1966, if you take an average of the nine local teams' latest winning percentages.
And that's just what we did, because we felt fairly certain that, since the Mets' arrival in 1962, local fans had never been treated so shabbily by their pro teams as they have been this year. Alas, we'd forgotten about the mid-1960s, and who could blame us? The Mets and Jets were still in diapers, the glorious Yankees were on the decline, the Giants and Knicks were terrible, and the Nets were so bad they didn't even exist yet.
This year's average winning percentage (though it's early in the NBA and NHL seasons) is just over .410. As in 1966, New York seems to lack even a single quality major-league sports franchise these days, and can boast just one winning team.
How did we come to this? And is the light at the end of the tunnel even plugged in? Here's an overview of the local sports landscape as it stands, and some notes on whether we should hold our collective breath for any improvement.

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12-01-2013, 06:56 PM
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I guess Dolan and the Steinbrunner bros are part of the problem.

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12-01-2013, 07:07 PM
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It also doesn't help that the Boston teams are winning or, in the case of the Celtics, are on solid footing in their situations it appears.

On the flipside...at least I think we can honestly say that the Rangers have the best shot of any team in the area to win a championship right?

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12-01-2013, 07:15 PM
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It's a good time, for those who haven't tried it.

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It also doesn't help that the Boston teams are winning or, in the case of the Celtics, are on solid footing in their situations it appears.

On the flipside...at least I think we can honestly say that the Rangers have the best shot of any team in the area to win a championship right?
Yankees might be closer by the time the MLB offseason is over but the Rangers have everyone else for sure.

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It's a good time, for those who haven't tried it.
I'd rather watch the sport played correctly overseas

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I'd rather watch the sport played correctly overseas


Anyway, yes, tough time to be a fan of New York sports. As a Mets and Jets fan, I'm used to it. This citywide funk really sucks though...

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12-01-2013, 07:45 PM
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are we not in the playoffs if the season ended today? I thought we were....

and yet according to the wall street journal, we're far from contention. Give me a break.

we're 12-5 since the road trip to start the season.

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12-01-2013, 07:48 PM
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It's brutal. My only hope is Syracuse basketball, and that's technically a Central NY team and not in the Tri-state area (although they do market themselves in the city as "NY's College Team").

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Honestly, right now I feel like the Rangers are the only team in NY that has a chance at anything.

I don't see the Yankees coming out of this funk for quite some time and the Giants are a shell of those teams that won two SBs in five years.

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There were plenty of other times in the history of NY when NY teams stunk. It's overblown and not the end of the world. Remember, everyone on this board has mixed alliances so what one team is doing in a different sport may mean nothing to some and a lot to others.

Some years in the early 2000s were pretty bad as well. 1993 was a bad year unless you were an Islanders fan

As for the Red Bulls, they had a great regular season but came up short in the playoffs. I don't know them well enough but are they contenders for years to come? I know Henry is pretty old.

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Just to make this thread hockey relevant. The Rangers started off so bad, Devils and Islanders are all mediocre right now too.


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12-01-2013, 09:15 PM
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Just to make this thread hockey centric. The Rangers started off so bad, Devils and Islanders are all mediocre right now too.
I don't think the Rangers are great or anything but maybe you should wait 55 games. Only a 3rd of the season is done.

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The funny thing is that the Rangers, which are the only half-way decent NY-area sports team this year, get ABSOLUTELY no coverage from the NY media, especially sports radio. I know this annoys a lot of people, but this really chaps my ass too. The Jets and Giants are brutal, and I have to listen to these idiots (not you boomer) talk about how the Jets spent the night at Dave and Busters, or how A-Rod took steroids. It drives me crazy.

But yes, it's a pretty bad year to be an NY-area sports fan, no doubt about it.

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12-01-2013, 09:32 PM
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There were plenty of other times in the history of NY when NY teams stunk. It's overblown and not the end of the world. Remember, everyone on this board has mixed alliances so what one team is doing in a different sport may mean nothing to some and a lot to others.

Some years in the early 2000s were pretty bad as well. 1993 was a bad year unless you were an Islanders fan

As for the Red Bulls, they had a great regular season but came up short in the playoffs. I don't know them well enough but are they contenders for years to come? I know Henry is pretty old.
Tim Cahill and Henry probably have a couple more good years in them. We have good goalkeeping as far as Robles, solid defense (need a few upgrades there though), and I think if we add a few more players we'll be right back in it next season. Also, the Red Bulls have the finances to add some more notable European players in the future who want to finish their careers in North America.

As far as this article goes, the last time I checked the Rangers are still in playoff position despite a poor start.

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Liberty had a rebuilding year.

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I'm lucky, most of the teams I cheer for aren't in the New York area! I've escaped the New York mediocrity by cheering for such awesome teams as the Blue Jays, the Oakland Raiders, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, the Toronto Raptors and the Winnipeg Jets along with my Rangers! So yeah, lucky for me I don't just cheer for New York teams huh?

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I'm lucky, most of the teams I cheer for aren't in the New York area! I've escaped the New York mediocrity by cheering for such awesome teams as the Blue Jays, the Oakland Raiders, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, the Toronto Raptors and the Winnipeg Jets along with my Rangers! So yeah, lucky for me I don't just cheer for New York teams huh?
Raiders are my #1 NFL team as well, although the Giants are my fave NFC team & I secretly root for the Jets when they don't play the Silver & Black or Big Blue. I feel highly positive about the Raiders moving forward after what I've seen up to this point this season. A crapload of salary cap space next year plus relatively high round picks help a lot.

As I said before, what really blows for me is I'm in the heart of New England, so hearing these generally uber-homer/shallow Boston ******** go on & on about how great their teams are pains the hell outta me right now on top of the struggles of my beloved Big Apple.

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Raiders are my #1 NFL team as well, although the Giants are my fave NFC team & I secretly root for the Jets when they don't play the Silver & Black or Big Blue. I feel highly positive about the Raiders moving forward after what I've seen up to this point this season. A crapload of salary cap space next year plus relatively high round picks help a lot.

As I said before, what really blows for me is I'm in the heart of New England, so hearing these generally uber-homer/shallow Boston ******** go on & on about how great their teams are pains the hell outta me right now on top of the struggles of my beloved Big Apple.
I wonder what happens to the Pats fanbase when brady retires...

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It's brutal. My only hope is Syracuse basketball, and that's technically a Central NY team and not in the Tri-state area (although they do market themselves in the city as "NY's College Team").
I really enjoy your posts, but as a St. John's graduate who married a 'Cuse graduate, I look upon this with scorn and envy.

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I really enjoy your posts, but as a St. John's graduate who married a 'Cuse graduate, I look upon this with scorn and envy.
Ouch, must be rough in your household during college basketball season.

I'm still getting used to the fact that Syracuse has left for the ACC, I'll always have a soft spot for the Big East. At least 'Cuse and St. John's are trying to maintain the rivalry by scheduling some games against each other.

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I'm not buying the whole "Rangers suck" thing here yet either. I think the fact that everyone else has been makes it easy to try to group a .500 team in there with them.

RBNY will compete so long as they keep bringing in star players who care (Like Cahill and Henry) and avoid those who don't (Like Marquez and Juninho)

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Ouch, must be rough in your household during college basketball season.

I'm still getting used to the fact that Syracuse has left for the ACC, I'll always have a soft spot for the Big East. At least 'Cuse and St. John's are trying to maintain the rivalry by scheduling some games against each other.
Yea, Im trying to get tickets for us for the Dec. 15th game. Hope they continue that on the schedules going forward.

I knew my wife since high school, so we went to the first SJU/'Cuse game our freshman year at the Garden in early 2001. Omar Cook's only year at SJU. Great game, 'Cuse won in double OT. It was all downhill from there in terms of a "rivalry." SJU's slide got a brief reprieve with Marcus Hatten, then 'Cuse won it all in 2003 -- had to go through all sorts of ribbing after that one. Then, as I was getting ready to graduate in 2004, the "Pittsburgh incident" as it was called around campus occurred and set the team back a number of years. Liked the Lavin hire though, hope they can excel in what is still a very competitive Big East.

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12-02-2013, 11:01 AM
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NY hasn't exactly been i a drought, though.

Rangers in 94
Knicks in the finals in 94 and 99
Giants in 07 and 2011.
Yankees in 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2009
Mets in the 2000 WS

Thats half-decent in an era where each sport as 30 teams in it. There are a lot of cities out there that arent anywhere close to that. I mean, we can always be a complete failure, like Washington DC.

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