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01-02-2007, 09:32 PM
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Hey guys, remember draft day 2005...when the Habs took Price, Peter Mcguire says, that is a HUGE error in judgement on behalf of the Montreal Canadiens...take what Peter says with a grain of salt, he blows with the wind...he flip flops more than Andre Racicot...Personally, I think Price was, and still is an excellent pick, but with goalies, it always seems hard to tell until they play 25-30 games in the NHL...
At the end of the day, we passed on Anze Kopitar...

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01-02-2007, 11:20 PM
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Hey guys, remember draft day 2005...when the Habs took Price, Peter Mcguire says, that is a HUGE error in judgement on behalf of the Montreal Canadiens...take what Peter says with a grain of salt, he blows with the wind...he flip flops more than Andre Racicot...Personally, I think Price was, and still is an excellent pick, but with goalies, it always seems hard to tell until they play 25-30 games in the NHL...
No, no, no...you all have it wrong. Pierre said he thought Price was a good goaltending prospect, but questioned the pick because the Habs (at the time) had Theodore with the hope of keeping him for a long time and Yann Danis (a solid prospect at the time) in the system. He then said Montreal would have been better off addressing other needs like defence and suggested Marc Staal would have been better at No. 5.

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01-02-2007, 11:44 PM
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theirs a feature on PRICE on TSN...in the video section, done by james Cybulski

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01-02-2007, 11:58 PM
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No, no, no...you all have it wrong. Pierre said he thought Price was a good goaltending prospect, but questioned the pick because the Habs (at the time) had Theodore with the hope of keeping him for a long time and Yann Danis (a solid prospect at the time) in the system. He then said Montreal would have been better off addressing other needs like defence and suggested Marc Staal would have been better at No. 5.
I think the bigger sticking point at that time was the new UFA age from the CBA. McGuire's point was that if a young goalie like Price comes through Montreal's system he'd have to play backup for a long while, and we'd only get 4-5 years of him at the top of his game.

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01-03-2007, 02:03 AM
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At the end of the day, we passed on Anze Kopitar...
and at the end of the day, every NHL team passed on Andrei Markov.

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01-03-2007, 04:47 AM
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Hey guys, remember draft day 2005...when the Habs took Price, Peter Mcguire says, that is a HUGE error in judgement on behalf of the Montreal Canadiens...take what Peter says with a grain of salt, he blows with the wind...he flip flops more than Andre Racicot...Personally, I think Price was, and still is an excellent pick, but with goalies, it always seems hard to tell until they play 25-30 games in the NHL...
his justification was that the habs were small at forward.

He believed that the habs should have taken Jack Skille

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01-03-2007, 09:33 AM
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I was hoping that the Habs were going to take Kopitar. Given their needs [both present and future] they clearly needed some size at centre in the system. Do you think a Kopitar-Kovalev-Samsonov line would like nice for the Habs now?

Personally, I believe that the Habs decided to go with a "safer" pick with Price. Kopitar was a higher risk pick coming from Slovania, and not having as much exposure in his draft year as players like Price, Gilbert Brule or Luc Bourdon. They gambled two seasons previous with Kostsitsyn, then went with a safer pick with Chipchurra the previous season.

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At the end of the day, we passed on Anze Kopitar...

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01-03-2007, 11:52 AM
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Can you imagine if Anaheim had any sense and took Johnson at number 2? In 2 years they'd have a top 3 of Pronger, Niedermeyer, Johnson... That looks like it COULD be as good as (or even better than) our D from the '70s (Robinson, Lapointe, and Savard).

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Can you imagine if Anaheim had any sense and took Johnson at number 2? In 2 years they'd have a top 3 of Pronger, Niedermeyer, Johnson... That looks like it COULD be as good as (or even better than) our D from the '70s (Robinson, Lapointe, and Savard).
Yeah, but if Anaheim had Johnson he definitely would of went to the Oilers for Pronger, I couldn’t see it working out any other way.

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01-03-2007, 02:30 PM
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At the end of the day, we passed on Anze Kopitar...
So did a few other teams...if Price becomes a good NHL goalie, as Kopitar has become a good NHL rookie, it's all a moot point...What bothered me about Peter's comment was, that he seemed to think that he was, and is smarter than BG and Trevor Timmins...that of course explains why he is a cheerleader on TSN...

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01-03-2007, 02:30 PM
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Price will not be a flop. The way he is built makes it pretty hard.

He's big, unlike any of the aforementioned goaltenders. He's positionally sound. He has great pads, glove hand, and is quick. He also has a calm demeanor.
Not saying Price is going to bust, but Carey was a big goalie who had a great glove had too.

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01-03-2007, 02:31 PM
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Price will not be a flop. The way he is built makes it pretty hard.

He's big, unlike any of the aforementioned goaltenders. He's positionally sound. He has great pads, glove hand, and is quick. He also has a calm demeanor.
Not saying Price is going to bust, but Carey was a big goalie who had a great glove had too. It's just too hard to tell with goalies.

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Apparently it's redundantly hard with goalies.

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At the end of the day, we passed on Anze Kopitar...
While I was pulling for Kopitar as well, like I was pulling for Getzlaf in 2003, for the need of skilled centermen with size, we were not the only ones to pass on Anze. And I know some teams that might regret it more than we do (Columbus (Brule who?), San Jose (Setoguchi???), Ottawa (Lee, awful tournament so far), 'Nucks (Bourdon....will see...).

I like Skille a lot so Chicago might have done a great choice but the others, and now compared to the Price pick might look worst than ours....And what about Staal? If you really want a d-man, is Bourdon and Lee really better than Staal, I don't think so....

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Not saying Price is going to bust, but Carey was a big goalie who had a great glove had too. It's just too hard to tell with goalies.
First, the use of Jim Carey in any HF thread is so overused as to become cliché. He is, as we say in French, the exception who confirms the rule.

Second, what separates Price from other goalies, based on the picture so far, is not just physical tools, but his mental strength, which in particular differentiates him from other big goalies with a great glove, and above all, Jim Carey, who embodies an utter lack of mental strength.

That said, I'd rather not get too enthusiastic, and let Price make his own case in the NHL, on his own timeline.

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01-03-2007, 05:30 PM
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I would of been happy with both picks, Kopitar would have been a great short-term solution though as he would of addressed our biggest concern right now. But watching Price at the WJC this year has impressed me quite considerably, I think he will be a very good goalie for years to come.

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When people compare Kopitar and Price I have to bring up the UFA status once more. Kopitar looks to be far and away the better value because he's bringing a ton of offense to LA for 7 years. The Habs will be lucky to have Price at the top of his game for 4.

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01-03-2007, 06:21 PM
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Not to mention he can play the puck VERY WELL.
Just double checking, but didn't you start a huge thread in November about how vastly superior Kopitar will be to Price??

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When people compare Kopitar and Price I have to bring up the UFA status once more. Kopitar looks to be far and away the better value because he's bringing a ton of offense to LA for 7 years. The Habs will be lucky to have Price at the top of his game for 4.
It's not inconceivable that they'll sign him again. What's the urgency?

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It's not inconceivable that they'll sign him again. What's the urgency?
The point is there's a risk of losing the player.

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You can risk losing any player, free-agency is younger now, it sucks for every good player you develop. It's out of our control, and you never know how a player will develop, Kopitar is an exception, it's hard to project the productivity of a young player, as well, it's only like 35 games in to Anze's career, who the hell knows what the future holds. I understand maybe being concerned about free-agent status, but at the same time, so be it, it's now a part of the game and we have to accept it.

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