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12-06-2013, 04:42 PM
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If the yanks are able to sign a solid hitter and Tanaka I would be really happy.

Choo would be my first choice, but if he wants more than 80-90 million I would pass. I think Beltran on a shorter term deal would be a much better option if Choo wants too much. Or I would try to trade for someone like Chase Headley.
Yanks don't have a lot to trade.

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Yanks were in no way going to 10 years or 240. he chased the money didnt matter what we did

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Guess what two players have a virtually identical career OPS? Cano and Choo. Obviously .860 is more valuable from a 2B, but still...

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Yanks don't have a lot to trade.
Cashman would have get a little more creative, but your right they don't have a ton to trade. Yankees signing either Beltran or Choo is much more realistic than making a big trade.

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Beltran sucks in big markets. He'd be booed out of Yankee Stadium by August.

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12-06-2013, 05:36 PM
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I was a bit surprised Cano signed with Seattle. That offer was just too much. $200 was my max for him. Just going to have to move on. Life after Cano.

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I don't understand the Choo/Beltran talk. The yankees need a 2B. I'd rather have Infante with Johnson at 3rd until ARod is back. Maybe management is thinking sign Choo now and wait for a premium 2B to become available in coming years...or DEVELOP one. I know they drafted a SS a year or two ago in the 1st or 2nd round, forget which school.

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12-06-2013, 06:23 PM
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Beltran sucks in big markets. He'd be booed out of Yankee Stadium by August.
…and yet he's an awesome playoff clutch hitter. I'd say he'd be fine.

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12-06-2013, 06:31 PM
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Beltran sucks in big markets. He'd be booed out of Yankee Stadium by August.
Haha, how do you figure? He had a fine career with the Mets. In his four full seasons here he posted a total of 23 WAR. If you combine his injured 2009 and 2010 seasons, he had about 4 WAR. 27 wins in 5 years? Yeah, what a ****ing bust.

What other large market did he play in? Since leaving KC he's been good at every stop, so I don't know what you're referring to.

If he was to be booed it would be because Yankees fans are spoiled rotten and an unreasonably impatient group.

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Haha, how do you figure? He had a fine career with the Mets. In his four full seasons here he posted a total of 23 WAR. If you combine his injured 2009 and 2010 seasons, he had about 4 WAR. 27 wins in 5 years? Yeah, what a ****ing bust.

What other large market did he play in? Since leaving KC he's been good at every stop, so I don't know what you're referring to.

If he was to be booed it would be because Yankees fans are spoiled rotten and an unreasonably impatient group.
The last paragraph explains why he would be booed to a T. He would be a disappointment regardless of what contract he signed if he did nothing short of bringing the 28th ring to the franchise.

Beltran may have overall good numbers, but in do or die situations he folds. Bottom of the 9th, full count, in game 7 of the NLCS, and he strikes out looking? Brutal. I do believe he was mostly a non factor against Boston this past season, but to be fair, so did every Cardinal.

If it's me, I'd bring in Choo or I'd pass all together and go for a pitcher.

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Bottom of the 9th, full count, in game 7 of the NLCS, and he strikes out looking? Brutal.
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source: Yankees never expected deal would get done which is why they struck quick with Mccann and Ellsbury. Also, the end game came right after ellsbury signing, cano told yanks he would stay for 235 (discount!!) over 8-10 yrs, yanks said 7/175 and neuther side spoke again

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The last paragraph explains why he would be booed to a T. He would be a disappointment regardless of what contract he signed if he did nothing short of bringing the 28th ring to the franchise.

Beltran may have overall good numbers, but in do or die situations he folds. Bottom of the 9th, full count, in game 7 of the NLCS, and he strikes out looking? Brutal. I do believe he was mostly a non factor against Boston this past season, but to be fair, so did every Cardinal.

If it's me, I'd bring in Choo or I'd pass all together and go for a pitcher.
Yeah, and Mo Rivera blew that save against Arizona that one time. You do realize he has the highest postseason OPS of anyone EVER, right?

THIS is why he might be booed as a Yankee. Some of you guys will hate the guy over one thing and completely disregard his otherwise stellar contributions.

If you don't sign Beltran, it's because you think he's in decline. It's not because some ignorant fans will boo him for no reason. That's no way to run a franchise.

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12-06-2013, 07:33 PM
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I am fine with Cano moving on. He chased the $. That is his right. I will miss his production. I will not miss his laissaz-faire attitude and lack of hustle. He looks lame next to guys like Jeter and McCann, who are all-in all-the-time. I would be happy adding Beltran and a pitcher now.

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Beltran was a very good Met. Productive. Tireless worker. Played through serious injuries. Some fans expectations were too high, hated the fact that he wasn't outwardly emotional, and only remember him striking out to end the NLCS.

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The last paragraph explains why he would be booed to a T. He would be a disappointment regardless of what contract he signed if he did nothing short of bringing the 28th ring to the franchise.

Beltran may have overall good numbers, but in do or die situations he folds. Bottom of the 9th, full count, in game 7 of the NLCS, and he strikes out looking? Brutal. I do believe he was mostly a non factor against Boston this past season, but to be fair, so did every Cardinal.

If it's me, I'd bring in Choo or I'd pass all together and go for a pitcher.
Beltran is one of the greatest playoff performers in MLB history, and it's not debatable. He's at his best on the biggest stage - the playoffs. He struck out looking once in the NLCS on a wicked pitch by Wainwright. Rivera blew game 7 of the World Series. You have to look at the whole body of work. I find no reason why Beltran would be booed more than any other free agent. He also offered the Yankees a discount to sign with them in the past before he went to the Mets - something Cano certainly didn't do (not that in blaming him for it, but it speaks well of Beltran).

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12-06-2013, 08:14 PM
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Love the grandy deal. His contract is actually pretty decent. his power is legit. Our outfield next year will have 3 cf's lol.

I would love beltran back if we could afford that contract. Always loved the guys tools.

Now trade ike. Dump duda. Get anyone but tejada to play ss. Play Murph at first and find away to sign an innings eater and let's get 2014 rollin.

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Mets signed Chris Young this offseason too. He'll probably be in RF. Maybe the Mets trade one of Lagaras/Eric Young Jr.

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Beltran will be too expensive for the Mets. Cano bolting added another year and 3 mil a year to his asking price. Yanks need him.

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BREAKING: Source says Yankees and Carlos Beltran have agreed to a three-year deal. More details to come.

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Mets signed Chris Young this offseason too. He'll probably be in RF. Maybe the Mets trade one of Lagaras/Eric Young Jr.
It sounds like they may put Eric Young Jr at 2nd and either move Murphy to first or deal him...

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BREAKING: Source says Yankees and Carlos Beltran have agreed to a three-year deal. More details to come.
Link? I can't find it.

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Beltran deal is $45 m over 3 yrs

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LOVE Beltran

Took less to be Yankee, fair deal

Now some infield & Pitching help?

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