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12-08-2013, 04:23 PM
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I like Lupul, but he's just too injury prone. Giving up Tanev hurts too. Next to Hamhuis he's our most consistent and reliable defenseman.

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12-08-2013, 04:52 PM
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I'd do something around Bieksa and Lupul though.
No thanks. If Lupul was more durable then maybe, but still this team can't afford to lose KB, the defense would be way too soft.

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12-08-2013, 04:53 PM
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Leafs lose that deal.

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12-08-2013, 05:02 PM
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How about a one-for-one Gardiner Tanev swap?

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12-08-2013, 05:08 PM
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Lupul is awesome but hes too injury prone to make this trade.

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12-08-2013, 05:23 PM
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I love Lupul, but his near constant injuries worry me. I would rather base something around Edler for Lupul+, perhaps as insurance. Both teams can then keep their respective young defenseman.

Or alternatively, Tanev+ for Lupul. I believe we had Tanev + 1st + low key prospect, in another trade with decent reception.

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12-08-2013, 05:33 PM
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Lupul
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The Canucks don't want breakable lupul. No thanks.

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12-08-2013, 05:35 PM
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Edler>Lupul
Tanev>Gardiner

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How about a one-for-one Gardiner Tanev swap?
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense from the Canucks standpoint. Tanev knows the system and can slot in with pretty much any other D on our team (similar to Hamhuis) and because of that, he's valuable. It gives coaching staff flexibility in who they pair allowing Bieksa, Edler, Garrison, Stanton, Alberts and Weber to go up and down with Hamhuis/Tanev as the support for whoever is struggling.

Gardiner will probably become a strong player but he doesn't know that system yet and wouldn't make us stronger.

Tanev will only move if a top 6 forward that's proven and not bitten by the injury bug is coming back, and most likely Tanev wouldn't be the only piece to the puzzle. Otherwise, it's Edler who will need to waive his NTC. And since Gillis doesn't like asking players to do that, that means we'll most likely end up with little to no trades this year, we'll either miss the playoffs or we'll squeak in, in which case Gillis' job will probably come to an end if we don't make it past the first/second round.

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Both teams say no.

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12-08-2013, 05:51 PM
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No thanks. If Lupul was more durable then maybe, but still this team can't afford to lose KB, the defense would be way too soft.
If Lupul was more durable Toronto doesn't even consider it. Grit is not very hard to acquire, a top 6 forward is.

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Nope. Gardiner is going no where.

Would not take Edler or Tanev for free.

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Edler>Lupul
Tanev>Gardiner
Lupul>Edler
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Fixed the mistakes in your post.

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12-08-2013, 05:57 PM
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Nope. Gardiner is going no where.

Would not take Edler or Tanev for free.
That's fine. We'll just dominate you again with them in the lineup.

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12-08-2013, 05:59 PM
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Nope. Gardiner is going no where.

Would not take Edler or Tanev for free.
Yes the team that allows the most shots in the league wouldn't take two top 4 D-Man from one of the best defensive teams over the course of the last 5 years. I know all Leafs fans aren't like this so I'm not going to generalize, but quit making your fan base look bad. No one is THIS stupid.

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12-08-2013, 06:01 PM
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That's fine. We'll just dominate you again with them in the lineup.
The tide is changing. Leafs are a YOUNG skilled team on the up and the window is closing on the Nucks.

Your dominance is coming to an end, and it starts this year as you guys just might miss the playoffs.

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12-08-2013, 06:01 PM
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Edler and Jensen for Kadri and Gardiner

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12-08-2013, 06:05 PM
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**** no.
Edler>Lupul
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Yes the team that allows the most shots in the league wouldn't take two top 4 D-Man from one of the best defensive teams over the course of the last 5 years. I know all Leafs fans aren't like this so I'm not going to generalize, but quit making your fan base look bad. No one is THIS stupid.
Fan base huh. NO ONE in our "fan base" trades a 22 y/o Gardiner (who is a stud) for Edler/Tanek.

Gardiner is one of the best skating D in the League, this kid has wheels.

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12-08-2013, 06:06 PM
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**** no.
Edler>Lupul
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Look who it is! Flaco LOL.

Haters gonna hate!

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12-08-2013, 06:09 PM
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Look who it is! Flaco LOL.

Haters gonna hate!
Are you 12 years old?

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12-08-2013, 06:13 PM
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Fan base huh. NO ONE in our "fan base" trades a 22 y/o Gardiner (who is a stud) for Edler/Tanek.

Gardiner is one of the best skating D in the League, this kid has wheels.
Edler is a 45/50 point D-Man, who played the most minutes on a team that went to game 7 of the finals. I think most people would take those proven attributes over a D-Man that hasn't proven anything at the NHL level. Heck, Tanev plays tougher competition than Gardiner, and is still vastly outplaying. Again, keep your potential stud and we'll keep our proven stud.

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12-08-2013, 06:14 PM
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Don't even get me started on Gardiner

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If Lupul was more durable Toronto doesn't even consider it. Grit is not very hard to acquire, a top 6 forward is.
True Statement.

A healthy Lupul is quite the player. Bieksa for Lupul isn't a bad trade when you consider Joffrey's prone-ness to injury. I personally wouldn't want to move Joffrey, but the value is decent, all considered.

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12-08-2013, 06:16 PM
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Lupul>Edler
Gardiner>>>Tanev

Fixed the mistakes in your post.
Gardiner can't even play defense, Lupul is injury prone. I'd rather not give the Leafs any help, you can play with your 5 LHDs.

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