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12-09-2013, 03:01 PM
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talk about Mason's k is irrelevant, only a matter of time before Holmgren overpays him with too many years and a NMC taboot...

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Is he a UFA after next year?

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is he a ufa after next year?
rfa.

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I want a Bugati Veyron chock full of supermodels with a trunk filled with high quality diamonds.
Top quality greed My wish as well though

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Bobrovsky got less than 3 mill per year after winning the Vezina. Why they he'll would we pay Mason 4+? That would be his comparable if I am Philly. Go to 3 million and then stop.

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12-10-2013, 06:32 AM
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Bobrovsky got less than 3 mill per year after winning the Vezina. Why they he'll would we pay Mason 4+? That would be his comparable if I am Philly. Go to 3 million and then stop.
Bobrovsky got $5.625m per year after winning the Vezina.

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12-10-2013, 08:04 AM
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So his agent makes this statement, he's given up 4 goals on back to back games.

Nice job agent.

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12-10-2013, 08:12 AM
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It's called negotiating...

Players always start high, GMs start low, then they go from there

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Bobrovsky got less than 3 mill per year after winning the Vezina. Why they he'll would we pay Mason 4+? That would be his comparable if I am Philly. Go to 3 million and then stop.
what? Bob got $5m+ for 2 seasons...

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12-10-2013, 08:15 AM
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talk about Mason's k is irrelevant, only a matter of time before Holmgren overpays him with too many years and a NMC taboot...
You don't pay much attention to Holmgren and his history of re-signing players, do you?

Aside from Timonen, Holmgren has always done a great job

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what? Bob got $5m+ for 2 seasons...
Yea, he gets almost 6M a year for 2 years. Looks like a decent deal now because Bob has fallen back to earth quite a bit.

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12-10-2013, 08:36 AM
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You don't pay much attention to Holmgren and his history of re-signing players, do you?

Aside from Timonen, Holmgren has always done a great job
I think your are forgetting Giroux and Hartnell.

Oh and Randy Jones.

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12-10-2013, 08:39 AM
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I think your are forgetting Giroux and Hartnell.

Oh and Randy Jones.
Michael Leighton.

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12-10-2013, 08:46 AM
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Mildly concerning. For a small agency whose roster is mostly made up of 3rd and 4th liners, career back-ups and bottom pairing "D", MFive have garnered some massive overpayments for their clients in recent memory (Vinny, Letang, Clarkson, Bolland)

A tiny agency like theirs has a lot riding on Mason's contract, hopefully Hexy handles that one and brings in his Ol' White "Vic" as the mediator.

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12-10-2013, 12:53 PM
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Fair deal for Mason would be in the 4-4.5 range in my opinion
If he keeps playing like this for the entire season then agreed

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12-10-2013, 12:56 PM
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Holmgren can be pretty hit or miss with signings. I will admit that he tends to mess up the lesser signings or depth players a lot (free agency signings included) and do better with the big name players.

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12-10-2013, 01:15 PM
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If he keeps playing like this for the entire season then agreed
If he keeps playing like he has until now you are looking closer at $6m than at $4m per.
The cap rising won't be lost on his agent.

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He's an RFA. Which team is going to offer sheet him at $6m a year?

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I think your are forgetting Giroux and Hartnell.

Oh and Randy Jones.
You're going to call the Giroux contract a bad one after 30 games? Come on. You want to keep your best player, you have to give him big bucks. What are you going to do, let him walk? Give me a break.

And the Hartnell contract, as many have pointed out, was not a bad move at the time. That was a lower deal than he would have gotten on the open market. In hindsight, he hasn't lived up to it, but if you don't want to lose your highest scoring player from the previous season for nothing, you have to pay him. It's easy to look at him now and say he would not have been missed, but coming off a career high in goals, and having been pretty much a lock for 20-30 for the past decade, you are going to tell me signing Hartnell was not the right move? Who replaces him? How much should he have gotten?

Randy Jones...yeah I'll go with you on that.

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12-10-2013, 03:14 PM
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If he keeps playing like he has until now you are looking closer at $6m than at $4m per.
The cap rising won't be lost on his agent.
But the fact that no other team really needs a starter next year except Edmonton won't be lost on Mason, or Homer. He doesn't have any place else to go, why mess up a good thing to be a little more of a millionaire?

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You're going to call the Giroux contract a bad one after 30 games? Come on. You want to keep your best player, you have to give him big bucks. What are you going to do, let him walk? Give me a break.
What you do is wait till after this season then give him a contract that fairly reflects his performances and RFA status.

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What you do is wait till after this season then give him a contract that fairly reflects his performances and RFA status.
Amen!

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You're going to call the Giroux contract a bad one after 30 games? Come on. You want to keep your best player, you have to give him big bucks. What are you going to do, let him walk? Give me a break.
He was an RFA. He had no chance to walk.
He was also greatly overperforming and therefore signed to early.
There was literally no pressure at all to get this done from the organizations point of view. Same thing that happened with Kimo's extension, except the overperforming part. He already started to suck back then.

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And the Hartnell contract, as many have pointed out, was not a bad move at the time. That was a lower deal than he would have gotten on the open market. In hindsight, he hasn't lived up to it, but if you don't want to lose your highest scoring player from the previous season for nothing, you have to pay him. It's easy to look at him now and say he would not have been missed, but coming off a career high in goals, and having been pretty much a lock for 20-30 for the past decade, you are going to tell me signing Hartnell was not the right move? Who replaces him? How much should he have gotten?
It's too long. It was too long back then.
This organization (I'm not singling out Homer here) hasn't understood that under the new CBA you can't circumvent the cap. You have to pay up for your NHL talent and work in cheap young players on ELC's. There is no other way of building a good team, other than getting lucky with UFA signings that somehow overperform.



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But the fact that no other team really needs a starter next year except Edmonton won't be lost on Mason, or Homer. He doesn't have any place else to go, why mess up a good thing to be a little more of a millionaire?
This hasn't stopped the Rangers to give Lundqvist $8.5m per year until he's a senior citizen. Less recently neither the Canadiens, the Bruins nor the Coyotes were able to turn that argument into a cap benefit.
Oh btw, not only the Oilers but also the Panthers, Islanders, Capitals, Wild, Jets and Flames would probably like to get their hands on Mason.

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