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12-10-2013, 03:36 PM
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Tor - Van

To tor: Bieksa

To van: Franson, Lupul

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12-10-2013, 03:37 PM
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I would be ok with one of those guys going, not both.

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I would be ok with one of those guys going, not both.
Would take both imo

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To tor: Bieksa

To van: Franson, Lupul
I'm almost good with this, a small add from Van would close the deal for me.

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12-10-2013, 03:44 PM
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To tor: Bieksa

To van: Franson, Lupul
Lupul >= Bieksa

Why is Franson even remotely in this trade?

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12-10-2013, 03:46 PM
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I think Lupul straight up is fair..I would prefer Franson++ though

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Lupul >= Bieksa
Why is Franson even remotely in this trade?
Idk man....Lupul's injury concerns have to play into this, and Bieksa is a solid gritty dman. As i said before, if Franson is in the deal, i'd like a small plus from Van.

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12-10-2013, 03:49 PM
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I'd probably do this. Bieksa can take some pressure off of Phaneuf.

Gunnerson- Phaneuf
Rielly- Bieksa
Gardiner- Fraser

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12-10-2013, 03:51 PM
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I think Lupul straight up is fair..I would prefer Franson++ though
Such as??

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12-10-2013, 03:54 PM
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Idk man....Lupul's injury concerns have to play into this, and Bieksa is a solid gritty dman. As i said before, if Franson is in the deal, i'd like a small plus from Van.
Ahhhh a voice of reason... way to not be a homer.

I agree.

Van would probably have to add a prospect or a 3rd or something like that. Could be a good trade for both sides imo.

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Lupul >= Bieksa

Why is Franson even remotely in this trade?
Becauae he is a major liability imo and we should trade him before his value takes a dive.

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Make it Franson & Lupul for Bieksa and a 2nd and........DEAL.

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Idk man....Lupul's injury concerns have to play into this, and Bieksa is a solid gritty dman. As i said before, if Franson is in the deal, i'd like a small plus from Van.
And Bieksa's injury history doesnt?

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And Bieksa's injury history doesnt?
I hope this isn't serious. Skate lacerations don't mean you are injury prone.

I don't think Van does this. As mentioned Lupul's injury history makes this a no go....Van is very familiar with similar players like Salo/Booth that are often injured. It's a good offer no doubt, but there's obviously a reason you are trying to dump him.

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12-10-2013, 04:06 PM
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And Bieksa's injury history doesnt?
When the term "injury prone" is said, who's the 1st player that pops into your head...Lupul or Bieksa?

I am also taking into account the Leafs needs, we are desperate for a sollid dman....wingers we have.

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I hope this isn't serious. Skate lacerations don't mean you are injury prone.

I don't think Van does this. As mentioned Lupul's injury history makes this a no go....Van is very familiar with similar players like Salo/Booth that are often injured. It's a good offer no doubt, but there's obviously a reason you are trying to dump him.
Lol we are more them happy keeping lupul. A couple of leaf fans think he may be expendable for the right deal but in no way is anyone trying to "dump him"

As for op, i would do that deal for edler not bieksa. Otherwise take out Franson.

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Make it Franson & Lupul for Bieksa and a 2nd and........DEAL.
I'd hesitantly agree to this trade.

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12-10-2013, 04:09 PM
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Make it Franson & Lupul for Bieksa and a 2nd and........DEAL.
Yup...i'd do this. Brings in a steady dman and opens a spot for rielly.

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Bieksa - Reilly would be fun as **** to watch!

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Bieksa is a no gone. Not only do I doubt he waives his NTC given his family being close with Kesler's and Burrows, but he heavily praised as a leader on the roster. If anyone from the defense core gets traded, it will be Edler.

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easy no from Van IMO.

We dont need Frason and we are not trading Bieska. I also have no desire for Lupul (although I know some Vancouver fans feel different).

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I'm not sure if we need Franson coming back, but I'd definitely be interested in something like this.

Lupul's injuries are a huge worry for me though...am I right in thinking that if Lupul weren't injured half the time the Leafs wouldn't consider this?

It pretty much all comes down to whether or not Lupul is healthy come playoff time. If he's not, then it's not worthwhile. So there's a fair bit of risk involved, which I'm not sure I'm willing to take.

Bieksa does have a NTC though, so it may be moot either way.

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Even though Bieksa is playing amazing right now, our defense is deep enough to recover from losing Bieksa.
Hamhuis-Tanev
Garrison-Franson
Stanton-Corrado

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12-10-2013, 04:13 PM
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I'm not sure if we need Franson coming back, but I'd definitely be interested in something like this.

Lupul's injuries are a huge worry for me though...am I right in thinking that if Lupul weren't injured half the time the Leafs wouldn't consider this?

It pretty much all comes down to whether or not Lupul is healthy come playoff time. If he's not, then it's not worthwhile. So there's a fair bit of risk involved, which I'm not sure I'm willing to take.
Franson is an RFA IIRC correctly. We could trade him for a 2nd round pick at the end of the season.

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