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12-10-2013, 01:16 PM
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Gardiner really won't help phi...we need offense.
The only offensive forward i think is movable would be Lupul, and i know Philly wants nothing to do with him.

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12-10-2013, 02:34 PM
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The Flyers need an offensive defenseman with wheels more than they need a sniper, although they need that too.

If we had a guy who good make great breakout passes and skate with the really puck it would transform the team overnight. Someone like Duncan Keith.

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12-10-2013, 02:36 PM
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The Flyers need an offensive defenseman with wheels more than they need a sniper, although they need that too.

If we had a guy who good make great breakout passes and skate with the really puck it would transform the team overnight.
Well, Gardiner is young, but you just described his game. Great skater and very good passer.

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12-10-2013, 02:45 PM
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The only offensive forward i think is movable would be Lupul, and i know Philly wants nothing to do with him.
No team wants anything to do with Lupul, except the leafs who are stuck with him...he's injured constantly and is a 5mil cap hit..

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12-10-2013, 02:46 PM
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Lupul, Gardiner, JML for Schenn brothers and Meszaros.

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12-10-2013, 02:50 PM
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No team wants anything to do with Lupul, except the leafs who are stuck with him...he's injured constantly and is a 5mil cap hit..
Before you spew your venom....(and the fact that i literally posted Philly wouldn't want Lupul)go check the TO/Van threads....Nuck's fans actually are interested in Lupul.

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12-10-2013, 02:51 PM
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Before you spew your venom....(and the fact that i literally posted Philly wouldn't want Lupul)go check the TO/Van threads....Nuck's fans actually are interested in Lupul.
That doesn't say a whole lot...its Vancouver.
Lupus has never been a fav player of mine even when he wore the orange and black.

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12-10-2013, 02:53 PM
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That doesn't say a whole lot...its Vancouver.
Umm...ok. Not sure what this means but.....

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12-10-2013, 02:58 PM
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Lupul, Gardiner, JML for Schenn brothers and Meszaros.
A glass player who we had at one time, a salary dump and Dman that is benched but "sometimes" shows promise.....NO!!!

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12-10-2013, 05:50 PM
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Callahan + MDZ + Pouilot for Schenn bros at reduced cap.

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12-10-2013, 06:13 PM
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The Flyers need an offensive defenseman with wheels more than they need a sniper, although they need that too.

If we had a guy who good make great breakout passes and skate with the really puck it would transform the team overnight. Someone like Duncan Keith.
Offensive Dman with wheels=Edler

Edler and Schroeder for Schenns

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A glass player who we had at one time, a salary dump and Dman that is benched but "sometimes" shows promise.....NO!!!
For two salary dumps and Brayden Schenn? I thought it would be fair.

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12-10-2013, 06:14 PM
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For two salary dumps and Brayden Schenn? I thought it would be fair.
Luke Schenn is in no way, a salary dump.....

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12-10-2013, 06:20 PM
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Luke Schenn is in no way, a salary dump.....
And Gardiner isn't benched?

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12-10-2013, 07:02 PM
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Offensive Dman with wheels=Edler

Edler and Schroeder for Schenns
That's fair, but I'd still rather keep our guys.

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Updated OP to exclude TML proposals b/c they're never productive...

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12-10-2013, 07:07 PM
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Bogo, but schenns + pick.
Bogo has had injury issues each ofthe last 4 seasons and he seems to have plateaued. I think B Schenn for him straight up is fair value wise but honestly, for Zach, I'd like to see him spend his entire career in Winnipeg. He loves it there and they love him there. He also seems to be more of a small town guy and I'm not certain he'd fit in Philly.

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12-10-2013, 07:09 PM
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Updated OP to exclude TML proposals b/c they're never productive...
Lol, now that's funny. . Good job my friend.

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12-10-2013, 07:11 PM
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No team wants anything to do with Lupul, except the leafs who are stuck with him...he's injured constantly and is a 5mil cap hit..
Lupul's caphit is great... we're basically getting a guy that plays 60 games and comes with a caphit of 3.8m (because of LTIR). What's wrong with paying a guy 3.8m for 60 games at 60 pts, calling up a rookie that will cost ~300k for the next 20 games and put up 10 pts?

People dump on players who only play ~60 games too much. yeah it sucks, but if the player puts up 60pts and their replacement put ups 10pts in 22 games, that's basically like having a 70pt player....

Also, Lupul's suffered a lot of freak injuries and I'm not worried about re-occuring injuries at this point in his career (I think since he's become a Leaf he's dealt with a broken arm, broken/bruised leg or ankle, back spasms, and a hamstring injury. Yeah, I'd love for him to be injury-proof but I'm still very happy that he's on this team and wouldn't trade him for scraps (I wouldn't add to Lupul to get the Schenns as Lupul is pretty much equal to B. Schenn and L. Schenn doesn't have too much value at this point in his career).

Still wish the best for Luke, kid seems to have an awesome personality and I always liked him.

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12-10-2013, 07:33 PM
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Lupul's caphit is great... we're basically getting a guy that plays 60 games and comes with a caphit of 3.8m (because of LTIR). What's wrong with paying a guy 3.8m for 60 games at 60 pts, calling up a rookie that will cost ~300k for the next 20 games and put up 10 pts?

People dump on players who only play ~60 games too much. yeah it sucks, but if the player puts up 60pts and their replacement put ups 10pts in 22 games, that's basically like having a 70pt player....

Also, Lupul's suffered a lot of freak injuries and I'm not worried about re-occuring injuries at this point in his career (I think since he's become a Leaf he's dealt with a broken arm, broken/bruised leg or ankle, back spasms, and a hamstring injury. Yeah, I'd love for him to be injury-proof but I'm still very happy that he's on this team and wouldn't trade him for scraps (I wouldn't add to Lupul to get the Schenns as Lupul is pretty much equal to B. Schenn and L. Schenn doesn't have too much value at this point in his career).

Still wish the best for Luke, kid seems to have an awesome personality and I always liked him.
60 points in 60 games??? So Lupul is now a ppg player??? 132 games in TO, 118 points in those games. Since when did 118/132 = 1.0??? I guess it must tie to the exchange rate or something because here in the USA that's 0.89 ppg. Over 60 games that would be 53 points, not 60.

However, don't let the facts get in your way. Carry on.

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Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Schenn - Kesler
Booth - Santo - Hansen
Weise - Richardson - Sestito

Hamhuis - Tanev
Garrison - Schenn
Stanton - Bieksa

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max Paciorettu, David Desharnais and Ellis
for Schenn`s and Simmonds

maybe a tweak here or there

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And Gardiner isn't benched?
Okay..we know that's a lie..

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max Paciorettu, David Desharnais and Ellis
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There is only one piece from MTL that the Flyers want/need, and we all know he is not available and/or the Flyers aren't willing to move the piece necessary to get him.

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60 points in 60 games??? So Lupul is now a ppg player??? 132 games in TO, 118 points in those games. Since when did 118/132 = 1.0??? I guess it must tie to the exchange rate or something because here in the USA that's 0.89 ppg. Over 60 games that would be 53 points, not 60.

However, don't let the facts get in your way. Carry on.
Nitpick much? If I used the last 2 seasons he'd be over a ppg, if I used the last 2 seasons plus the current one, it'd be 100 pts in 104 games. It's not ridiculous to say Lupul is a ppg player, he did it 2 seasons in a row... that make's him a ppg player by the definition.

Lupul is a ppg player, whether he'll do it again this year, for two more years, or five more years remains to be seen. But he is currently a ppg player seeing as his last 2 seasons he's been over a ppg.

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