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12-15-2013, 06:08 PM
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Yeah but you still don't need to trade mother****ers cause of this game. I'm sure Detroit traded like 8 guys after our 3rd period comeback.
There's no trades out there right now that will turn this team into a playoff team this year, best just take our lumps now & wait for the offseason.

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Who else would you have liked to see take the shot?????

Wayne "I do the same move coming down the left boards forehand to backhand that never works" Simmonds?

Scott "There's a better chance I fall on my breakaway than score" Hartnell?

Kimmo "Lightly pass it into the goalie's pads" Timonen?
Schenn, Voracek, maybe Raffl?

I didn't have a problem with Couturier going there though.

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Terrible terrible ****ing loss.

I don't like the shootout, but it'd be nice if they could win some once in awhile. There's no way this team has ever taken the ****ing shootout serious. Year after year they skate it and shoot it right into the pads. Jesus ****ing Christ. At this point, just play four forwards each shift in overtime, I mean what do you have to lose?

Also, the defense has been **** lately, but Mason is starting to show cracks in his armor. He's been slow to react to shots at the point the last few games and he's also been overhandling the puck a little bit.

Such a depressing loss.
That really freaks me out too.

All shootout attempts look the same: slow, tentative and if they haven't ever practiced it at all.

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12-15-2013, 06:09 PM
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Mason lost that one. I don't know why Couturier was shooting in that spot. 0-3 now in career shootouts.
It makes sense because we have nobody else to put there. After Read failed to shoot I told the person I was with, "We're probably done here since we're down 0-1 and Read plus Giroux are our only good shooters and Read just failed at his" and then that prediction played out as expected.

Who else would you want to put there? Lecavalier is injured and even if he wasn't he's not good at the shootout to begin with. Hartnell and Simmonds are among our worst forwards possible for it. You could argue Schenn or Raffl, but that's about it and it's not clear between Schenn, Raffl, and Couturier which one is the best choice. After all that you're looking at playing D.

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How is it that one team can be so relentlessly bad at shootouts every year? I mean, no matter who shoots, who's in goal or who the opposition is - we lose.
I don't think they ever, ever practice it.

I forget which team it is, but during an intermission report it showed they incorporated a quick shootout practice in every practice. I highly doubt the Flyers do anything of the sort, and I highly doubt anybody from the coaches up to Snider gives a damn. They're just leaving points on the table.

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First 50 minutes were great.

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Who else would you have liked to see take the shot?????

Wayne "I do the same move coming down the left boards forehand to backhand that never works" Simmonds?

Scott "There's a better chance I fall on my breakaway than score" Hartnell?

Kimmo "Lightly pass it into the goalie's pads" Timonen?
I assume Jake's historically lousy at it since he wasn't mentioned. But if Coots got the nod just because he's been hot lately, Raffl's been the hot hand a lot more recently.

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Who else would you have liked to see take the shot?????

Wayne "I do the same move coming down the left boards forehand to backhand that never works" Simmonds?

Scott "There's a better chance I fall on my breakaway than score" Hartnell?

Kimmo "Lightly pass it into the goalie's pads" Timonen?
then couturier should be the first shooter

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12-15-2013, 06:11 PM
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That really freaks me out too.

All shootout attempts look the same: slow, tentative and if they haven't ever practiced it at all.
There's no way the can practice it and be that bad, can they lol? It's infuriating. At this point, I'd rather see different people shoot everytime, see if anyone ever catches fire.

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Can't think of another one off the top of my head.
He's had some games where he was pretty average at the least. Can't think of any games that were too egregious though.

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How is it that one team can be so relentlessly bad at shootouts every year? I mean, no matter who shoots, who's in goal or who the opposition is - we lose.
I even said during the game before the shootout to who I was with that with the Flyers it's kind of expected to be horrible at shootouts and take lots of penalties. I can't remember a time where I've watched the team where either of those things weren't true.

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I don't think they ever, ever practice it.

I forget which team it is, but during an intermission report it showed they incorporated a quick shootout practice in every practice. I highly doubt the Flyers do anything of the sort, and I highly doubt anybody from the coaches up to Snider gives a damn. They're just leaving points on the table.
I remember watching 24/7 two years ago and Pittsburgh practices it like all the time. They make a competition out of it.

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12-15-2013, 06:13 PM
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Terrible terrible ****ing loss.

I don't like the shootout, but it'd be nice if they could win some once in awhile. There's no way this team has ever taken the ****ing shootout serious. Year after year they skate it and shoot it right into the pads. Jesus ****ing Christ. At this point, just play four forwards each shift in overtime, I mean what do you have to lose?

Also, the defense has been **** lately, but Mason is starting to show cracks in his armor. He's been slow to react to shots at the point the last few games and he's also been overhandling the puck a little bit.

Such a depressing loss.
I hate watching them dangle straight up to the crease.

Last season there was an article analyzing shootout attempts and, shockingly (!), it was found that skaters who just ****ing shoot instead of trying to deke the goalie out of his jock have far more success. Hell, look at Fehr...he's at about 60% and he just shoots. Read is one of our most successful guys and he's the same way.

At this point I'd rather see them fire a slapshot from the slot with no fancy crap than watch them deke their way into a miss time and time again, after YEARS of that **** failing.

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12-15-2013, 06:15 PM
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I assume Jake's historically lousy at it since he wasn't mentioned. But if Coots got the nod just because he's been hot lately, Raffl's been the hot hand a lot more recently.
I can't say with exact certainty, but IIRC Voracek's shootout percentage over his career is as unimpressive as anybody's on our team minus Read and Giroux (who aren't overly impressive themselves, just good enough to not complain about using).

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Would be nice if Jake buried some of his gifts during the game.

Mason has had 3 games with 4 GAA since his puke agent came out saying he wants Carey Price $$$$.

Blowing a 4-1 lead in 3rd is a complete joke. Clean 2 pts was so important.

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12-15-2013, 06:17 PM
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I hate watching them dangle straight up to the crease.

Last season there was an article analyzing shootout attempts and, shockingly (!), it was found that skaters who just ****ing shoot instead of trying to deke the goalie out of his jock have far more success. Hell, look at Fehr...he's at about 60% and he just shoots. Read is one of our most successful guys and he's the same way.

At this point I'd rather see them fire a slapshot from the slot with no fancy crap than watch them deke their way into a miss time and time again, after YEARS of that **** failing.
There are some guys that are better off just deking. Giroux being one of them probably since he can be masterful when he's in all alone.

For the most part you're right though. You'd have to assume that pretty much everyone that gets played in a shootout has a quality shot worthy of being in the NHL to begin with anyhow.

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Anytime this team gets an opportunity to get over .500, they lose, win one, lose one.

Same thing last year too.

M-e-d-i-o-c-r-e

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There are some guys that are better off just deking. Giroux being one of them probably since he can be masterful when he's in all alone.

For the most part you're right though. You'd have to assume that pretty much everyone that gets played in a shootout has a quality shot worthy of being in the NHL to begin with anyhow.
Giroux is better off at it, because he's beastly at it.

The vast majority of skaters likely aren't going to have the skill to beat out a goalie by deking at this level.

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Lol. Thats all I have to say about that one.

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i hope Mason is not giving us some kind of false hope

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i hope Mason is not giving us some kind of false hope
This was the Bryz type of game. Score 4 and get to shootout where goalie is Swiss cheese and we lose after scoring 4. Shouldn't happen.

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Well, that was a load of crap.

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I can't say with exact certainty, but IIRC Voracek's shootout percentage over his career is as unimpressive as anybody's on our team minus Read and Giroux (who aren't overly impressive themselves, just good enough to not complain about using).
jakes move is the pull to the backhand try and tap it though the five hole everytime

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Can we really be mad at Mason? First bad game of the year. It happens. Still think he's a great goaltender.
At least 3 goals allowed in how many games lately?

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