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12-15-2013, 08:20 PM
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why is everyone so high on brayden schenn the kid is NOT GOOD AND WILL NEVER BE GOOD kid had a decent year last year he's got trade value use that **** b4 it runs out he looks horrible out there he is NOT fast has mediocre hands and an ok shot ... oh he will throw a hit and fight (which he always loses ) but you say you wouldn't trade him for elder wow i wonder if some people think b4 they talk
Well this garbage player is second on the team in points. And he in on pace for the same points that JVR was in his 3rd year. Maybe we need to be patient when we were not before.

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12-15-2013, 08:34 PM
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Well this garbage player is second on the team in points. And he in on pace for the same points that JVR was in his 3rd year. Maybe we need to be patient when we were not before.
wow on a team where we can't shoot for **** that deserves a round of applause its sad we couldn't hit water if we fell out of a boat and i stand by what i said schenn is NOT GOOD he shouldn't have been a #5 draft pick lol la made out like bandits getting Richards for him and Simmons

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12-15-2013, 08:41 PM
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Feel free to go be a Kings fan then.

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12-15-2013, 08:49 PM
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wow on a team where we can't shoot for **** that deserves a round of applause its sad we couldn't hit water if we fell out of a boat and i stand by what i said schenn is NOT GOOD he shouldn't have been a #5 draft pick lol la made out like bandits getting Richards for him and Simmons
Solid rant 6/10.. Bonus point for the misspelling of Simmonds

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12-15-2013, 09:28 PM
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I'm not a bit fan of Schenn either, but he's far from garbage. I don't think he'll ever be able to reach his potential here, and I wouldn't mind dealing him, but he's still a good young player with a lot of potential.

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12-15-2013, 10:03 PM
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I was realy high on sinmonds and would still like to get a player like him but ive seen some really harsh words describing his season....hockey iq of a brick wall i think was one lol is he really that bad? I was considering beaulieu snd a first fair value but now im not so sure

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12-15-2013, 10:56 PM
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12-16-2013, 12:04 AM
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Feel free to go be a Kings fan then.
a flyers fan forever but i do catch myself cheering for la because of carter and Richards other than that i could care less

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12-16-2013, 02:38 AM
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Again after watching them play the Caps yesterday I'm less and less convinced B.Schenn will ever get anywhere close to his ceiling.

He is solid overall but does nothing exceptionally well. The hockey sense does not seem to be there for him. Most of the time he looks like he is always a step behind the play and when was the last time he did something creative with the puck?

Wasn't he expected to add some physical play as well? I just see a player with average strength who gets knocked off the puck way too easy and falls a lot.

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12-16-2013, 02:41 AM
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Schenn looks like a guy who could peak as a Downie/Hartnell sort of guy.


We traded Richards for that.


**** I hope I'm wrong.

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12-16-2013, 05:11 AM
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The biggest problem with B Schenn is he doesn't move his feet consistently with or without the puck. In that sense, he is a lot like JVR was when he was a Flyers although not as naturally talented. This guy is in a contract year too so the lack of effort is disturbing. He has the talent to be Shane Doan but could also end up like Drew Stafford.

This is just my own speculation but it doesn't seem like the Schenn brothers respond very well to coaching. The Flyers have been trying to get B. Schenn up on his skates and moving his feet consistently since his time with the phantoms and have been trying to get L. Schenn to simplify his game since he got here yet neither goal is going anywhere.

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12-16-2013, 06:12 AM
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The biggest problem with B Schenn is he doesn't move his feet consistently with or without the puck. In that sense, he is a lot like JVR was when he was a Flyers although not as naturally talented. This guy is in a contract year too so the lack of effort is disturbing. He has the talent to be Shane Doan but could also end up like Drew Stafford.

This is just my own speculation but it doesn't seem like the Schenn brothers respond very well to coaching. The Flyers have been trying to get B. Schenn up on his skates and moving his feet consistently since his time with the phantoms and have been trying to get L. Schenn to simplify his game since he got here yet neither goal is going anywhere.
This. B. Schenn is not slow. I would say his balance isn't great either though.

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12-16-2013, 08:36 AM
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The biggest problem with B Schenn is he doesn't move his feet consistently with or without the puck. In that sense, he is a lot like JVR was when he was a Flyers although not as naturally talented. This guy is in a contract year too so the lack of effort is disturbing. He has the talent to be Shane Doan but could also end up like Drew Stafford.

This is just my own speculation but it doesn't seem like the Schenn brothers respond very well to coaching. The Flyers have been trying to get B. Schenn up on his skates and moving his feet consistently since his time with the phantoms and have been trying to get L. Schenn to simplify his game since he got here yet neither goal is going anywhere.
would want 1000X - for him to become that type.

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12-16-2013, 09:06 AM
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The biggest problem with B Schenn is he doesn't move his feet consistently with or without the puck. In that sense, he is a lot like JVR was when he was a Flyers although not as naturally talented. This guy is in a contract year too so the lack of effort is disturbing. He has the talent to be Shane Doan but could also end up like Drew Stafford.

This is just my own speculation but it doesn't seem like the Schenn brothers respond very well to coaching. The Flyers have been trying to get B. Schenn up on his skates and moving his feet consistently since his time with the phantoms and have been trying to get L. Schenn to simplify his game since he got here yet neither goal is going anywhere.
Yea well said. He does not seem to put much effort into anything. When he is "hot" he is moving well and up on his skates. As you said it looks more like an effort thing than anything else. Not sure how that gets better other than time and maturity. I mean all he has to do is skate for 60 minutes and be will be a really good player.

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12-16-2013, 09:11 AM
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Schenn looks like a guy who could peak as a Downie/Hartnell sort of guy.


We traded Richards for that.


**** I hope I'm wrong.
But OMG Simmonds RULES!!!!1!!!!!

I don't even want to contemplate what the Flyers would get for Schenn in a trade. Sure as **** isn't close to Richards' value.

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12-16-2013, 09:33 AM
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But OMG Simmonds RULES!!!!1!!!!!

I don't even want to contemplate what the Flyers would get for Schenn in a trade. Sure as **** isn't close to Richards' value.
There in lies the Flyers bad predicament. This teams needs top line scoring winger and most importantly mobile puck moving defensemen. The league as a whole is desperate for scoring so no team is moving a top line goal scorer especially on a reasonable contract. The defensemen are in even higher demand. No contending team is giving away an establish PMD and noncontending teams are probably not contending because they need more mobile puck moving defensemen. The Flyers are going to have to go either unproven or struggling and that carries with it the same possible outcome of the JVR for L. Schenn trade. I really question the Flyers professional scouting staff when it comes to defensemen (L. Schenn, Kubina, Matt walker, Meszaros, Emminger) so I don't have much hope they win those trades.

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I would have kept Richards but BSchenn and Simmonds was a decent return. How decent we won't know for a few more years.

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12-16-2013, 11:53 AM
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people would of not liked the Richards trade as much if Simmonds had not that career year in his first full year here. I still would of not done the trade. We have had this discussion before on this board to. I would of done the Carter trade 10 times out of 10 and kept Richards.

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12-16-2013, 12:02 PM
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This trade would be looking so much better if LA had agreed to give up Voynov instead of Simmonds.

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This trade would be looking so much better if LA had agreed to give up Voynov instead of Simmonds.
rumor has it Holmgren asked for him and Lombardi said he wasnt available.
how much truth there is to that tho.
I like Voynov a lot. I have been watching this kid play since he came to NA. You just could see he was going to be a really good NHL defenseman.

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12-16-2013, 12:25 PM
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rumor has it Holmgren asked for him and Lombardi said he wasnt available.
If that's the case, then you don't draft Sean Couturier, you draft Dougie Hamilton. People like to talk about the Flyers neglect of the goalie position, but both Holmgren and Clarke have long neglected the defense position as well. This team has been collecting old pylons for as long as I remember. I can only remember one flyers team, the recent cup team, that had two fully formed defense pairs that could move the puck. After that it was maybe one or two guys and a bunch of tough defensive only guys.

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12-16-2013, 12:45 PM
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If that's the case, then you don't draft Sean Couturier, you draft Dougie Hamilton. People like to talk about the Flyers neglect of the goalie position, but both Holmgren and Clarke have long neglected the defense position as well. This team has been collecting old pylons for as long as I remember. I can only remember one flyers team, the recent cup team, that had two fully formed defense pairs that could move the puck. After that it was maybe one or two guys and a bunch of tough defensive only guys.
or Duncan Siemens. Who the Flyers were ready to draft ahead of Dougie Hamilton. Only recently have the Flyers finally figured out what the rest of the NHL knows. you draft from the goaltender out.

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12-16-2013, 12:52 PM
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I might be in the minority here, but I still like the Couts pick over Hamilton. I know everyone was raving about him and he is young, but Couts is coming around offensively. Hamilton hasn't had the best season up in Boston either, but he still has plenty left to grow as well. I just like Couts upside a little more than Hamilton. Just my opinion of course.

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12-16-2013, 01:12 PM
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I might be in the minority here, but I still like the Couts pick over Hamilton. I know everyone was raving about him and he is young, but Couts is coming around offensively. Hamilton hasn't had the best season up in Boston either, but he still has plenty left to grow as well. I just like Couts upside a little more than Hamilton. Just my opinion of course.
i like the pick as well. All tho I dont know if they would of taken Hamilton if Couturier was off the board.

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Brodin is the only guy i would take over coots

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