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12-17-2013, 07:28 PM
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because they want to win the cup
Yea....so then why would they want Hartnell?

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12-17-2013, 07:29 PM
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Hartnell to St.Louis for St. Louis style BBQ
I'm not sure you know how good St. Louis style BBQ is. I mean - have you ever even tasted it??

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I'm not sure you know how good St. Louis style BBQ is. I mean - have you ever even tasted it??
It's pretty damn good. It might be too good for Hartnell now that I think about it.

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12-17-2013, 07:39 PM
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Hartnell was a good player two years ago, its just he no longer is one. maybe it will come back. I dont know. But the Flyers should seriously be looking to trade him before other teams take notice how bad he is. He literally falls down every shift.

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12-17-2013, 08:30 PM
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Yea....so then why would they want Hartnell?
he's a veteran whose been there before

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12-17-2013, 08:43 PM
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Tarasenko?? Please

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id do it for a first lol

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12-17-2013, 08:50 PM
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Hartnell is a much bigger asset to our club than many on here will ever realize........He will do the dirty work MOST will not do, and he is a much better passer than most will admit,,,,,,,I cannot count how many great passes he has made that folks failed to bury right in the slot .... I like our 2nd line with Harts on it .


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12-17-2013, 08:59 PM
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Of course you can't count them. It's impossible to count things that aren't there.

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12-17-2013, 09:07 PM
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St. Louis does have some appealing prospects in Jaskins and Rattie and especially on d with two right handed dmen in Vanelli and Schmaltz.

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12-17-2013, 09:14 PM
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Was just throwing MTL out there because the fanbase has, in the past, often thrown out interest in acquiring Hartnell...even if those offers were generally low-ball, bordering on absurdist, offers thrown out by Flyers fans immediately.

I think it also might have something to do with team construction and the lack of a true powerforward in prior years. That doesn't mean MTL still has that hole to fill, but it makes for an interesting case going forward.

I used to know a lot more about MTL team make up, but I'm since out of the loop.

Really though, Hartnell is useless here. He could definitely be useful elsewhere, but this is no longer the right team for him.
Retain 2 mil, take on Desharnais and I'll ship ya your boy Beaulieu.

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12-17-2013, 09:38 PM
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Retain 2 mil, take on Desharnais and I'll ship ya your boy Beaulieu.
Desharnais @ 5.50m/year + Beaulieu < Hartnell @ 4.75m/year

I'll keep Hartnell.

It would help if Desharnais had any use on our team, but he really doesn't.

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12-17-2013, 09:45 PM
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Hartnell is a much bigger asset to our club than many on here will ever realize........He will do the dirty work MOST will not do, and he is a much better passer than most will admit,,,,,,,I cannot count how many great passes he has made that folks failed to bury right in the slot .... I like our 2nd line with Harts on it .
If this were true I dont think Hartnell would have been moved from Giroux's line.

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12-17-2013, 10:18 PM
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I'll personally hate to see him go if this is true.

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12-18-2013, 01:36 AM
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Clearly Hartnell is being packaged with Mez for Pietrangelo.
Yes Simmonds,Mez and Hartnell for Pietrangelo amd Backes

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12-18-2013, 06:02 AM
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I wanna keep hartnell, he`s better then he has showen lately

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12-18-2013, 06:10 AM
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Yes Simmonds,Mez and Hartnell for Pietrangelo amd Backes
We don't need another center. I'll happily take Tarasenko though.

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12-18-2013, 06:58 AM
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E2 means he saw it written on a bathroom wall? lol

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12-18-2013, 07:19 AM
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He still has some value, we are going into the offseason with the draft and salary cap increasing to 70+ million, it makes sense.

Like the guy and all but he makes dumb decisions that cost the team far to often.

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12-18-2013, 07:24 AM
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Like Hartnell too but his is redundant with Simmonds on the team. It would be worth it to use his salary cap space on a different type of player.

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12-18-2013, 07:30 AM
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Am loving the Hartnell, Schenn and Simmonds line. Great 2nd game against the Caps.
Hopefully Schenn returns soon.
I'd like to hold off on a trade and see how this line does. Besides, Harts will have most value near the trade deadline when other teams get desperate.

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12-18-2013, 07:51 AM
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Like Hartnell too but his is redundant with Simmonds on the team. It would be worth it to use his salary cap space on a different type of player.
Yeah, god forbid you have two power forwards.

I am not opposed to trading Hartnell but people are ridiculous to say he has no value. Look at what Clowe got, look at the contracts Clarkson and Clowe got and neither produced close to Hartnell year in and year out. Teams work the phones for PFs at the trade deadline, especially guys that that can produce in the top 6 and on the PP. Plus, the guy has been a beast in the playoffs. Jeez, guys like Antropov had a market.

Hartnell's 37 goal season was an abberation but he has been a lock for 20-25 goals a season to go along with the sand paper and agitating. People act like he never scored a goal until he played with Jagr. He has scored 20+ with all types of centers. A playmaker like Giroux, a shooter like Carter & Briere, a two guy like Richards.

The Flyers are a small team up front as is so if they are trading Hartnell they better add speed&skill to beat teams because they will get ground down in a long series (assuming they make the palyoffs).

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E2 means he saw it written on a bathroom wall? lol
Probably more like he saw somebody wearing blue fall down.

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Yeah, god forbid you have two power forwards.

I am not opposed to trading Hartnell but people are ridiculous to say he has no value. Look at what Clowe got, look at the contracts Clarkson and Clowe got and neither produced close to Hartnell year in and year out. Teams work the phones for PFs at the trade deadline, especially guys that that can produce in the top 6 and on the PP. Plus, the guy has been a beast in the playoffs. Jeez, guys like Antropov had a market.

Hartnell's 37 goal season was an abberation but he has been a lock for 20-25 goals a season to go along with the sand paper and agitating. People act like he never scored a goal until he played with Jagr. He has scored 20+ with all types of centers. A playmaker like Giroux, a shooter like Carter & Briere, a two guy like Richards.

The Flyers are a small team up front as is so if they are trading Hartnell they better add speed&skill to beat teams because they will get ground down in a long series (assuming they make the palyoffs).
Couldn't have said it better myself. Getzlaf is redundant because the Ducks have Perry, right?

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12-18-2013, 08:16 AM
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Be careful what you wish for. Everyone talks smack on this guy but they seem to forget about all the goals he has scored here and continues to score. Is his contract a year or two longer than it should be? Probably, but that's the deal he was going to get coming off of a career year. Consistent 20-30 goal scorers do not grow on trees. Even this year Hartnell can still crack the 20 goal mark.

Who is going to replace Hartnell's production? McGinn? I like him, but I don't think he's gonna score 20-30 a year for the next couple years.

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