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KHL Expansion part III

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12-23-2013, 07:54 AM
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Maybe Germans are still bitter about losing the war to Soviets?

It's really the same here in Finland. Constant Russian bashing in our MSM.
Because Russia never does anything wrong, eh? Johan Bäckman has taught you well...

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12-23-2013, 08:16 AM
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66 voters isn´t a representive survey. and this time the question is to negative. thats not the point. important is if they would still visit the games or not.

the Q. schould be: "Would you still be a fan and attend games if your favorite favotite team joins KHL?"

thats the point, not if the fans like green tea more than peppermint tea.
This was exactly the point, since people in here thought that 37% were positive towards having their team being moved to the KHL. And 100 voters is a representative survey.

There's another survey that I made a couple of months ago which states that 60-70% would attend Djurgården games in the KHL - but it is not of importance, as you think it is.

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12-23-2013, 08:21 AM
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Because Russia never does anything wrong, eh? Johan Bäckman has taught you well...
Surely Russia does wrong things, no one denies that, but also picturing it like Russia does always wrong things is the same mistake, just opposite

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12-23-2013, 08:48 AM
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Однако я подтверждаю, что по всей Европе имеется колоссальный интерес к нашей лиге. Швейцария, Германия, Польша, Италия, Швеция, Дания, Норвегия — все хотят попробовать себя в КХЛ!
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There is a big interest from Europe. Switzerland, Germany, Poland, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Norway - all want to be in KHL!
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12-23-2013, 03:13 PM
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well Poland (gdansk), Italy (Milano), and Norway ( forgot the name of the club :/ ) have clear interest. They are supposedly also talking to a DEL club so there is possible serious interest. rest is just verbal interest which means not much as yet.

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12-24-2013, 08:09 PM
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LMAO Atleast he was more entertaining than most you guys in this discussion lately lol. From a thread about KHL Expansion you made it into a pissing contest about who's country is more redneck, nationalistic (i may be exaggerating here but not to much as i read some comments). The thread has badly devolved into petty squabbles, with few exceptions.
Would it be in any way possible to actually start talking about the theme of the thread again?

For example its sure there is interest by Milano to get to the KHL, do they still intend to get there by going to EBEL league first?

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12-24-2013, 09:38 PM
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LMAO Atleast he was more entertaining than most you guys in this discussion lately lol. From a thread about KHL Expansion you made it into a pissing contest about who's country is more redneck, nationalistic (i may be exaggerating here but not to much as i read some comments). The thread has badly devolved into petty squabbles, with few exceptions.
Would it be in any way possible to actually start talking about the theme of the thread again?

For example its sure there is interest by Milano to get to the KHL, do they still intend to get there by going to EBEL league first?

I started deleting and it seems like I could spend the rest of the evening doing it!

How about we just get back to the thread topic, gents?

Merry Christmas everyone.

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12-25-2013, 05:20 PM
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they should just relocate spartak, no need to start a new team, just not enough talent.

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12-25-2013, 06:25 PM
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they should just relocate spartak, no need to start a new team, just not enough talent.
How many times does it need to be explained that Spartak will never be relocated? It's bad for the KHL image and an unprecedented move in Russian hockey.

There is more than enough talent....see Zagreb and Vladivostok standings.

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What we have been saying for years now. Once the infrastructure is there the team will follow. From a business perspective getting 24 guys to skate around is the easiest part.

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12-25-2013, 11:19 PM
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So what you think will happen to Spartak, the club seams a bit rocky. They probably wount reach the playoffs.

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So what you think will happen to Spartak, the club seams a bit rocky. They probably wount reach the playoffs.
Maybe a merge? I wouldn't be shocked if a merger happened.

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12-26-2013, 01:59 AM
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they should just relocate spartak, no need to start a new team, just not enough talent.
I agree, save the legendary brand, but not in Moscow, give to Sochi. I don't see it as a bad thing for Russian hockey. Relocation not a bad thing under the circumstances. Like I said before, let people in Sochi vote on it, Dolphins or Spartak/Spartans.

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12-26-2013, 03:38 AM
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I agree, save the legendary brand, but not in Moscow, give to Sochi. I don't see it as a bad thing for Russian hockey. Relocation not a bad thing under the circumstances. Like I said before, let people in Sochi vote on it, Dolphins or Spartak/Spartans.
You can't save the brand of Spartak Moskva by moving them to Sochi. This is Europe you are speaking about, no one here would say that Minnesota North Stars aren't dead, but simply playing in Dallas.

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12-26-2013, 06:03 AM
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So what you think will happen to Spartak, the club seams a bit rocky. They probably wount reach the playoffs.
spartak is on the verge of completely folding.

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12-26-2013, 06:13 AM
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spartak is on the verge of completely folding.
Didnt they write a letter to Putin or something? I remmember reading it on allhockey.ru

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12-26-2013, 07:22 AM
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spartak is on the verge of completely folding.
Well there are to many moscow hockey clubs anyway, there really should be one. SO yes why not relocate it or fuse it with another moscow club as one more hockey development school or smtn. I mean what ever the Putin wants will happen so i dont see why Spartak couldnt relocate and get better local funding and more loyal fans. It would be a non traditional thing but a better thing than club dieing.

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12-26-2013, 10:11 AM
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Well there are to many moscow hockey clubs anyway, there really should be one.
There are 4 traditional clubs in Moscow. 3 are left. There is no need to kill anyone of them...

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12-26-2013, 10:16 AM
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Well there are to many moscow hockey clubs anyway, there really should be one. SO yes why not relocate it or fuse it with another moscow club as one more hockey development school or smtn. I mean what ever the Putin wants will happen so i dont see why Spartak couldnt relocate and get better local funding and more loyal fans. It would be a non traditional thing but a better thing than club dieing.
Spartak is traditional russian team and they should stay in Moscow and KHL !

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12-26-2013, 11:27 AM
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well what about the attendance? I mean if you dont really have fans than whats the point of haveing a club there. 2000-3000 in a almost 6000 arena is rather sad if u ask me. I doubt the reason is cause the arena is outdated. and if they do get or move to a 12k+ arena i seriously doubt it would make a huge difference in attendance. I think they would be much happier outside Moscow.

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12-26-2013, 11:50 AM
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look, this isn't america. if the club isn't viable financially and they can't find anyone to support them they will either drop down to a lower level or fold. they are not going to move somewhere else. what would be the point of that?

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look, this isn't america. if the club isn't viable financially and they can't find anyone to support them they will either drop down to a lower level or fold. they are not going to move somewhere else. what would be the point of that?
Khimik moved from Voskresensk to Mytischi and was later renamed to Atlant. It has happened before.

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12-26-2013, 02:52 PM
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Spartak may be traditional club, but they should double or triple their attendance figures if they have future in Moscow or in KHL. Right now there are enough interest for one or two clubs.

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12-26-2013, 03:03 PM
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Spartak may be traditional club, but they should double or triple their attendance figures if they have future in Moscow or in KHL. Right now there are enough interest for one or two clubs.
exactly what i said

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KHL should also put pressure for those clubs which can draw only 2 000 or 3 000 spectators. These kind of figures are not good for image of number one league in Europe.

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