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12-24-2013, 03:13 PM
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Why can't prostitutes do the escort thing? Why can't they say the dude was going to pay me to go to dinner or whatever.
Because they don't actually go to dinner.

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12-24-2013, 03:26 PM
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The dude had the fish, smell his breath

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So buying of sex services in public is illegal then?
Read the section.

You do not have to get the buying (or selling) it is all about communication in public.


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12-24-2013, 04:13 PM
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The dude had the fish, smell his breath

It's pretty obvious that you don't entirely comprehend what's at issue here.

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12-24-2013, 04:41 PM
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It's pretty obvious that you don't entirely comprehend what's at issue here.
I think what is obvious is that you didn't get what I was really saying. Unless you are being sarcastic, in which case I award you an internet.

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12-25-2013, 04:05 PM
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First concert I ever went to - fall 2003 - was the Vancouver show of the Nickelback 'Long Road' tour. It was possibly the most impressive trio of **** rock ever assembled in one building:

Warm up act: Three Days Grace
Opening act: Staind
Headliner: Nickelback

I don't really think my taste has improved since (my two best concerts: Oasis x2 and Van Halen reunion tour '12), but I know I can play more licks than any member of Nickelback on my guitar. *******, those guys suck.

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12-28-2013, 07:19 PM
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I fell asleep when I saw Staind in concert. Never had that happen at a concert before.

ETA Wish I could get a handle on singing and playing guitar at the same time. I can sing pretty well but when I try to add guitar I experience all sorts of fail.

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12-29-2013, 02:17 AM
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First concert I ever went to - fall 2003 - was the Vancouver show of the Nickelback 'Long Road' tour. It was possibly the most impressive trio of **** rock ever assembled in one building:

Warm up act: Three Days Grace
Opening act: Staind
Headliner: Nickelback


The last time I was in Vancouver I saw the Foo Fighters. They had Sloan open for them. A great night of rock.

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12-29-2013, 02:24 AM
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I fell asleep when I saw Staind in concert. Never had that happen at a concert before.

ETA Wish I could get a handle on singing and playing guitar at the same time. I can sing pretty well but when I try to add guitar I experience all sorts of fail.
I can't sing at all, so I usually keep pretty quiet whenever I play.
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The last time I was in Vancouver I saw the Foo Fighters. They had Sloan open for them. A great night of rock.
Those are two bands I'd love to see next time they come around on tour.

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01-14-2014, 01:54 PM
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There was a Chat from Canada.com (Post media News) on the issue and what new laws we might see. Politics Chat: Prostitution laws in Canada
Ruth Dunley with Postmedia Digital and Iím joined today by an excellent panel to discuss the recent Supreme Court decision on prostitution. On our panel: reporter Tobi Cohen has covered the Supreme Court ruling and its aftermath for Postmedia News, and Valerie Scott and Amy Lebovitch are two of the three co-plaintiffs in the case, and Professor Carissima Mathen is an associate professor of law at the University of Ottawa. Her primary area of expertise is in Canadian Constitutional law. Welcome again, everyone.

The SCOC decision found the laws to be unconstitutional but suspended the effect for a period of one year to let Parliament consider what it will do to bring the laws into Charter compliance.

When this occurred with the abortion law after the Morgentaler decision - Parliament simply did not pass any replacement laws so performing an abortion is now legal.

Or the government could simply criminalize the act of prostitution itself.

Another option is for the federal government to cease criminalizing most aspects of sex work (except for things like trafficking and underage which is covered under other offences), and leave this to the provinces to regulate. That seems unlikely given the comments from the Harper government


Valerie Scott who was one of the plaintiffs in the case before the SCOC is opposed to the so-called "Nordic Model" where the client but not the prostitute is prosecuted.
(T)he Nordic model only penalizes the person buying the sex, or the person exploiting the sex worker. Think of it as asymmetrical criminal law. The issue is whether you can avoid making the conditions of sex work more dangerous simply by focussing only on the other people involved. For example, if the women feel compelled to continue to do things that are unsafe in order to maintain their business, that could be a problem.
by cmathen 10:11 AM

As noted such a law could result in a Charter challenge as well because the client would claim there is not equality before the law.
Second, the government could consider what is sometimes called the "Nordic Model" where only the purchasers/pimps can be prosecuted, never the sex workers. Finally, they could just criminalize the transaction itself, though that would be quite radical and would immediately trigger its own charter challenge
by cmathen 10:06 AM

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Yes, sex worker accross the country are very worried about the Harper government bring in the Nordic laws. The Nordic style of laws that parliament is talking about are equally as dangerous for us because they force us to work secretively, independent of each other, and untraceable. It criminalizes, and vilifies our clients. Because clients are terrified of arrest, they will not identify themselves to us. We will have to accept calls from blocked numbers; we won't know who we are seeing. This will be a gift to sexual predators pretending to be our clients.

Also, the police troll through the ads, and the Internet, and find out where you are working. Once they see a client enter your location, the police then kick in the door, ransack the place and look for 'evidence' like condoms; and arrest the client. On the street they lie in wait, until you get in the client's car. Then they pounce. You feel hunted. Under the law, we are compelled by the state to testify against our own clients. If we do not, we are held in contempt of court. A serious charge, with an indefinite sentence.

My street based colleagues will have to work in the shadows, in dark out of the way places. The Nordic model is: meet the new regime, same as the old regime. It's rewriting the laws with different words, and creates the same set of circumstances the Supreme Court of Canada unanimously ruled are unacceptable. The feds are selling their rewriting of the laws to the public, as, 'we're going to save the sex workers' from themselves. The cynicism of the current Canadian federal government knows no bounds.
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01-15-2014, 05:33 AM
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Yeah, I am afraid the feds are going to bring in more draconian measures because of the court ruling.

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01-15-2014, 11:32 PM
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First concert I ever went to - fall 2003 - was the Vancouver show of the Nickelback 'Long Road' tour. It was possibly the most impressive trio of **** rock ever assembled in one building:

Warm up act: Three Days Grace
Opening act: Staind
Headliner: Nickelback

I don't really think my taste has improved since (my two best concerts: Oasis x2 and Van Halen reunion tour '12), but I know I can play more licks than any member of Nickelback on my guitar. *******, those guys suck.
I saw this concert too (in Winnipeg). I agree, it was the best concert I've seen.

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01-16-2014, 06:39 AM
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Poor, poor b*stard. Nobody deserves that.

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