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12-29-2013, 12:18 AM
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Sam Morin powerplay goal!
He added an assist later in the game as well.

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12-29-2013, 12:20 AM
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He added an assist later in the game as well.
He was a -3 for the night though. I know we all don't like the stat, but you would like to see him on the ice for more goals for than against. I believe both points were PP tonight for him. The assist came on the tying goal too if I remember correctly.

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He did not look very sharp in his own end. But his goal was nice

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12-29-2013, 08:14 AM
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So that is 5-14-19 in 29 games now. (0.66 PPG)

That is 19th in points among D men in the Q.

Joint 14th among D men in PPG.

5th amongst u19 D men. (Brouillard, Vanier, Leblanc, Meloche)

5th amongst drafted D men. (Culkin, Fournier, Weeger, Hache)

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12-29-2013, 10:05 AM
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His skating and hockey IQ worry me a little bit. When going up against better forwards, he is easily exposed. We all know that he is a project defenseman so it's kind of expected at this point

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Nice shutout for Stolie.

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His skating and hockey IQ worry me a little bit. When going up against better forwards, he is easily exposed. We all know that he is a project defenseman so it's kind of expected at this point
His skating is a strong part of his game. Smaller forwards are always going to give big guys fits, they just need to learn to use their reach. It will come. Also I never seen anyone question his IQ. From all the reports and times I've seen him, he has looked good. He is quick with his transition and knows when to jump up offensively. His shot can get quicker but it's already a bomb. Best in the Q I'm pretty sure

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12-29-2013, 11:34 AM
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His skating is a strong part of his game. Smaller forwards are always going to give big guys fits, they just need to learn to use their reach. It will come. Also I never seen anyone question his IQ. From all the reports and times I've seen him, he has looked good. He is quick with his transition and knows when to jump up offensively. His shot can get quicker but it's already a bomb. Best in the Q I'm pretty sure
This is pretty much every scouting report I've seen on him. For a kid that size, his skating is really good. His hockey IQ was touted as a strength as well. He just needs to grow into his body, gain experience, and work on positioning.

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12-29-2013, 12:11 PM
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His skating is a strong part of his game. Smaller forwards are always going to give big guys fits, they just need to learn to use their reach. It will come. Also I never seen anyone question his IQ. From all the reports and times I've seen him, he has looked good. He is quick with his transition and knows when to jump up offensively. His shot can get quicker but it's already a bomb. Best in the Q I'm pretty sure
I question his skating because from the times I have seen him because once a forward is by him or goes to cut across him, it's like he's confused on what to do to try and prevent it from happening again. Perfect example of it happening in a big game was in the subway series against Russia(although I've seen plays similar to that happen against him in regular season games too). He does have a good shot and once he matures more, I'm sure it's going to be a nasty slapped from the point. He's young and maybe I'm just being a little critical, he has plenty of time.

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12-29-2013, 12:25 PM
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The only skating aspect I have seen that is maybe an issue is sometimes his lateral movement... but I think sometimes it looks worse due to gap control.

That is for me his weakpoint defensively in the games I have seen, he lets guys get too much space or gets too close to them at times... but that is a lot about experience, and is hard to do as such a big guy at a young age who got big quickly as well, just from the aspect of knowing your own body.

I believe I read when he was drafted (11-12) into the Q he was 6'4 and 170... at the start of his draft year he was 6'5 and 185-190, at the draft 6'6 and 203... now he is listed at 6'7 and 211.

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12-29-2013, 03:26 PM
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If there's 2 strengths to morins game, it's skating and hockey iq, so I have no idea what's being discussed here haha.

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12-29-2013, 04:11 PM
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If there's 2 strengths to morins game, it's skating and hockey iq, so I have no idea what's being discussed here haha.
Was gonna say the same.

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If there's 2 strengths to morins game, it's skating and hockey iq, so I have no idea what's being discussed here haha.
But it's his size that's #1

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If there's 2 strengths to morins game, it's skating and hockey iq, so I have no idea what's being discussed here haha.
What's being discussed is his clumsy footwork: Morin skates very well for his size, but his jock can be dropped too easily.

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12-29-2013, 06:37 PM
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^ what he said

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If there's 2 strengths to morins game, it's skating and hockey iq, so I have no idea what's being discussed here haha.
His smarts, or lack there of. Smart hockey players aren't getting owned repeatedly during training camp as Morin was by Laughton. Head in the sand, though. Morin's fantastic, and will be until the day he's traded for scraps.

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wow Mckeown is falling from everybody's list i would love to grab another 1st rd pick and draft Anton Karlsson and Mckeown

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12-29-2013, 08:46 PM
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If he's there, I might take Kapanen before Karlsson. McKeown, if he is less than 20, I'd trade for that pick (Hartnell for a 1st+).

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If he's there, I might take Kapanen before Karlsson. McKeown, if he is less than 20, I'd trade for that pick (Hartnell for a 1st+).
the spects who play for Frolunda always turn into good players

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His smarts, or lack there of. Smart hockey players aren't getting owned repeatedly during training camp as Morin was by Laughton. Head in the sand, though. Morin's fantastic, and will be until the day he's traded for scraps.
Not sure if serious? Morin, a raw player when he was selected and in his first NHL camp, against another first round pick in his second NHL camp with NHL games under his belt....

I don't know that Morin is going to be some superstar or even a player worthy of his selection point, but I think it's pretty easy to say that he certainly hasn't shown anything against Laughton or anyone else that proves he can't be.


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12-30-2013, 12:18 AM
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Morin with another assist, 20 points in 30 games now.

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His smarts, or lack there of. Smart hockey players aren't getting owned repeatedly during training camp as Morin was by Laughton. Head in the sand, though. Morin's fantastic, and will be until the day he's traded for scraps.
What are you even referring to? Some drill in training camp? You might be overreacting. Give the poor kid a chance. He looked fantastic in the preseason games, not that really even matters. He just turned 18, relax.

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Morin with another assist, 20 points in 30 games now.
Morin's on pace to double last year's offensive production this year (in the same GP; 46).

Also, he's now 16th in points by defensemen in the QMJHL; higher in defensive PPG.

That's the kind of offensive breakout year we wanted from him. All good things.

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His smarts, or lack there of. Smart hockey players aren't getting owned repeatedly during training camp as Morin was by Laughton. Head in the sand, though. Morin's fantastic, and will be until the day he's traded for scraps.
Talk about overreaction. You must also think laughton and leier are junk because they aren't tearing up the wjc and stolie a bust because he's not starting

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His smarts, or lack there of. Smart hockey players aren't getting owned repeatedly during training camp as Morin was by Laughton. Head in the sand, though. Morin's fantastic, and will be until the day he's traded for scraps.
You mean the same Scott Laughton that's tearing apart the OHL filled with all sorts of high end NHL prospects by scoring almost 2 points a game? I have no idea what Sam Morin is going to become but somehow I don't think anything that you saw during training camp vs. Laughton means anything.

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