That's an ugly looking defense, IMO. Rosie has no business on the top pairing, and you're asking a lot from Staal to immediately step in as a 1 or 2 D-man. Rachunek doesn't look like much of an NHLer to me, and coupling him with Pock you're going to have some real problems if they get caught facing the oppositions top line. I like the Tyutin-Ward as the second pairing.
That's an ugly looking defense, IMO. Rosie has no business on the top pairing, and you're asking a lot from Staal to immediately step in as a 1 or 2 D-man. Rachunek doesn't look like much of an NHLer to me, and coupling him with Pock you're going to have some real problems if they get caught facing the oppositions top line. I like the Tyutin-Ward as the second pairing.
And I know you aren't a big fan of Malik.
Still you think Renney should be fired for not winning more with this team?
Nah, wait and see. Staal and Rozie would do fine. The Staal brothers loves big roles. Renney is also a fan of putting promising kids in roles like that. If Jessiman would have signed in 04-05, and there would been a season, Renney basically gauranteed him a spot with Nylander-Jagr (This were before the redline were removed).
I agree on the 3rd pairing. Could be Malik-Pöck, or Malik-Rachunek too.
agreed - hopefully the next wave of players are guys who can take care of themselves so we don't have to worry about 'protecting' these players which so often doesn't work effectively.
agreed - hopefully the next wave of players are guys who can take care of themselves so we don't have to worry about 'protecting' these players which so often doesn't work effectively.
I can certainly second that opinion. I hate "enforcers" but am a big fan of multi-dimensinional bangers. C'mon, Dane!
1. Straka-Nylander-Jagr
2. Shanahan-Datsyuk-Prucha
3.Dawes-Cullen-Korpikoski
4.Byers-Dubinsky-Hollweg
Callahan- first call-up Gone:Hossa, Kasper (waivers), Weekes ( not a fan at all) Ward (will sign elsewhere). Ward is a Fa correct??? Betts traded for a pick, and Colton Orr in Hartford. (still part of the team cause I like the guy)
Goaltenders: Lundqvist-Montoya
Some players will be here because they are signed. ex: Malik and Rozsival. If Shanahan resigns then a player like Datsyuk would be a nice reunion. Wescott is tough(in front of the net, and will drop the gloves). Souray with with Jagr ,Nylander and Shanny on the PP?? Very nice. There obviously are more FA's that would look good, but our prospects may be ready next year on the bottom two lines fo 8-12minutes per game. I know this line-up won't happen, nor is it the best, but it is a def upgrade in the on ice product while giving a shot to the prospects. I think the D-is still questionable (at best) but I can't see the Rangers signing three FA D-men, and I think Staal will need a year with the WolfPack.
Wheres Ortmeyer man, he's got to stay, and I believe Betts is signed so he's staying too. Otherwise I like the Lines. But I don't see us going out and getting 2 D men, it'd be nice but won't happen.
but since I've started focusing on him, he isn't the player his stats would suggest. Maybe I'm catching a bad stretch, but I don't see a lot of banging, he doesn't appear to be a great skater or puckhandler either. When looking at his stats your eyes pop open and say, wow, points and PIMs, perfect, then you watch and it's not the same. He's very young. He needs to add weight. And he can still improve on areas, that's the good news. Given where he was and where he is, it seems as though he may've worked pretty hard and hopefully has a good work ethic. I don't know if I'd expect him hear next season.
Continue on the subject of the thread...I'd be very surprised if Immonen's here next season. Whether through a trade or he goes back home, I just don't see him here with the team.
Some have pencilled in Korps - he represents an interesting situation for Maloney & Co. He stated he doesn't want him up here playing on a fourth line - right now, that's about what he is in the AHL. So another year in Hartford?
Dubi will be interesting. I missed last night's game - stats-wise it was pretty bad for him, but he's been playing well of late. If he continues to get better at the rate at which he's been since the second preseason game, you'll have a hard time convincing me that Betts deserves to be a third line centerman over him next season.
On defense - Baranka needs to get a consistent physical edge. He seemed nastier last season. He plays smart, doesn't shy away, and moves the puck well. His key will be staying healthy.
Girardi - could be a dark horsee. Never saw it in him, but perhaps he can surprise - or hopefully. But there won't be much room for him in New York.
Still you think Renney should be fired for not winning more with this team?
Nah, wait and see. Staal and Rozie would do fine. The Staal brothers loves big roles. Renney is also a fan of putting promising kids in roles like that. If Jessiman would have signed in 04-05, and there would been a season, Renney basically gauranteed him a spot with Nylander-Jagr (This were before the redline were removed).
I agree on the 3rd pairing. Could be Malik-Pöck, or Malik-Rachunek too.
I think Staal will be great, and I think he'll have a great rookie season. I'm just not keen on the concept of playing him with Rosie. As a rookie defenseman on the top pairing, mistakes will inevitably be made. I'd rather Staal have a more responsible defensive partner than Rozsival, someone to help cover up his mistakes. Although, if next season's version of Rozsival is more akin to what we saw from him last season, it could work.
On Datsyuk, Detroit will make a helluva push to keep him. Holmström have basially been told that he is persona non grata for Det in the future, unless he would be prepaired to take less then the 1.6 he is making now. Which have resultet that Holmström basically have went public that he is returning to Luleå in Sweden next season, he have sent them a headsup to count on him (there are no tradefreezes here in Sweden, teams starts to sign each other, and their own player in January and Febuary, most teams have a set roster for the next season come March).
Robert Lang is a UFA, but his market value is probably lower then the 3.8 he is making right now. And its questionable if they bring back Maltby.
Their future aren't looking great, and they will have allot of cap room. They will even have enough for both Datsyuk, and a prime goalie like JS Giguere.
It will be really hard to snatch Datsyuk from them, something would have to turn really sour inorder for Pavel to hit the market. My guess is that he would have to ask for more then 7m per season. And if he does, I am not even sure I want him here. Defenitly not for 9m per.
I would love it if we got him for 6-7m per season longterm. But I think its very unlikely.
Straka - Nylander - Jagr
Prucha - UFA - Shanny
Dawes - Dubinsky - Ward/Hossa (I wouldn't mind getting Barnaby back to play on the right side)
Hollwegg - Betts - Ortemyer
I don't know abouth the defence, it really depends whose available and whether Staal is ready or not
I've been thinking about the lines for next season now that we got Avery. I don't expect us to make any major chances. And I do belive Dubinsky got a spot waiting for him with Avery and Shanahan, hed be a very good fit there. I also think Korpikoski will take a spot.
Though I can't completly get the math to add up, somebody gotta go.
But I am defenitly not convinced that Hossa will be let go, and I don't wanna see Hollweg go either. I think there is a need to atleast keep Orr around as a 13th forward.
On defense I think Malik could end up in a Kaspar like doghouse next season. Marc Staal would make allot of sense with the top unit, next to Roszival.
