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01-02-2014, 11:06 AM
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People in the WJC thread are saying Laughton is going bald already.
Who even cares?!

Could have bets on who goes first... him or Couturier.

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01-02-2014, 11:24 AM
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Who even cares?!

Could have bets on who goes first... him or Couturier.
The rat was going bald at 18 and he was not a bad player

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For baldness at age 22 ^^^.

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01-02-2014, 11:52 AM
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He was pretty close at 18! Poor guy.


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that's rough...

Sure, I'm 27 and have a bit of a receding hairline, but I guess things could be worse

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People in the WJC thread are saying Laughton is going bald already.
Im not seeing it, Laughton going bald that is, not the people saying it.

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Sweden looks incredible, but Hagg looks bad in this game. Making some seriously lazy plays in the D zone and takes a delay of game call by taking the net off clear of any pressure around him.

I don't use the term lazy often-- I think people use it too liberally to describe players who just don't look very intense, but I see some concerning qualities in Hagg's game.

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01-02-2014, 01:48 PM
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Im not seeing it, Laughton going bald that is, not the people saying it.

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01-02-2014, 02:18 PM
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Sweden looks incredible, but Hagg looks bad in this game. Making some seriously lazy plays in the D zone and takes a delay of game call by taking the net off clear of any pressure around him.

I don't use the term lazy often-- I think people use it too liberally to describe players who just don't look very intense, but I see some concerning qualities in Hagg's game.
He has probably been the consensus best D man for Sweden so far in the tourney though.

I know what you mean though, he does have a certain 'Jeff Carter' quality to his game at times... ie he never looks flustered by much, skates smoothly and easily but every now and then seems too relaxed. Which means at times he makes incredibly difficult plays look easy and then easy plays look hard.

I have been really encouraged by his play so far this tourney though... his D has been almost perfect vs the other teams best players each game.


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short highlight video of Scott Laughton, courtesy of TSN.ca.

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Sweden looks incredible, but Hagg looks bad in this game. Making some seriously lazy plays in the D zone and takes a delay of game call by taking the net off clear of any pressure around him.

I don't use the term lazy often-- I think people use it too liberally to describe players who just don't look very intense, but I see some concerning qualities in Hagg's game.
I do not know what game you are looking at? Hagg is one steady player not lazy. You need to bone up on your scouting my man. The guy is not Bobby Orr OK? I do agree with you concerning Sweden. They look very strong.

PS People used to say that about the Hawk.

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I do not know what game you are looking at? Hagg is one steady player not lazy. You need to bone up on your scouting my man. The guy is not Bobby Orr OK? I do agree with you concerning Sweden. They look very strong.

PS People used to say that about the Hawk.
I do understand where he is coming from after watching a lot of Hagg in the SHL and every game in the WJC. I would not say lazy though... I think it just seems like that sometimes when he makes mistakes as a lot of the time he plays a very 'effortless' and 'unconcerned' style of game, so sometimes it looks like little effort is being put in. He looks cocky at times as well... but less so more recently.

He does sometimes switch off too early as well, like thinking the play is done, or that his man is safely shepherded from a dangerous area... but I have not really seen that in the WJC, only a few times in the SHL.

I love his skating... like, he is 18, 6'2 and 210 pounds, and just makes it look like he is on air at times. He skates like Coburn.

If he can put it together he can be a really special player, hits hard, skates well, soft hands, nice passing, poise and a cool head. When he is switched on as well he sees the game very well... he just needs to be 'on' all of the time. His skillset is already seems NHL standard at times... just making sure he can put it together a higher % of time.

A Swedish friend of mine read him talking about his contract situation at Modo the other day (expires at the end of the year)... he said it was not decided yet, he had been in regular contact with the Flyers and he had to think of himself and what was best for him and becoming a better player in the future. I think he ends up staying in Sweden even if not with Modo, and hopefully playing 20+ minutes a night next year... he looked fine playing those minutes for Modo, but they have a few pretty damn good older D men ahead of him.

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Any chance he plays for the Phantoms next year?

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I don't get the opportunity to watch Hagg often-- today was the first time I watched him since last WJC.

I thought he had a pretty bad game from what I saw. He wasn't intense below the goal line and he wasn't moving his feet much.

I don't watch him nearly enough to pick up on whether or not this is a trend in his game; I'm only stating my thoughts on him this afternoon.

Appleyard-- I know what you mean about him seeming disinterested at times because he can make it seem so effortless. That reminds me a lot of Carter, and I used to defend him using that very same argument. Today, though, I thought Hagg was genuinely lazy. He just wasn't making much effort to stick to his man in the defensive zone, and numerous times I saw him completely stop moving his feet altogether despite his man being loose low in the zone.

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short highlight video of Scott Laughton, courtesy of TSN.ca.

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Laughton is the next captain of the Flyers no doubt.

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01-02-2014, 04:03 PM
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I don't get the opportunity to watch Hagg often-- today was the first time I watched him since last WJC.

I thought he had a pretty bad game from what I saw. He wasn't intense below the goal line and he wasn't moving his feet much.

I don't watch him nearly enough to pick up on whether or not this is a trend in his game; I'm only stating my thoughts on him this afternoon.

Appleyard-- I know what you mean about him seeming disinterested at times because he can make it seem so effortless. That reminds me a lot of Carter, and I used to defend him using that very same argument. Today, though, I thought Hagg was genuinely lazy. He just wasn't making much effort to stick to his man in the defensive zone, and numerous times I saw him completely stop moving his feet altogether despite his man being loose low in the zone.
Well they did win 6-0 so maybe Hagg didnt think he needed his A game today.

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Any chance he plays for the Phantoms next year?
Doubt it.

Swedes generally stay until they are ready to at least compete for an NHL spot. Hampus Lindholm played in the AHL as an 18 year old, but he was the 6th overall pick. Can't really think of any other Swede in the past few years that jumped to the AHL that young. Doesn't mean it can't happen, but history is history.

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The SHL is a better league than the AHL as well, and they play very sound defensive hockey that is easily transferable onto NA ice unlike some other countries... so it kind of negates the need to come to the AHL unlike most other euros. So I do not think it makes too much sense.

(Year after move):

AHL players score 0.44 points per AHL point in the NHL.
SHL players score 0.78 points per SHL point in the NHL.

The only reason I think would be to come over when he is ready for the NHL and play the first 20~ games of the year in the AHL to adjust.

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01-02-2014, 06:25 PM
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Came here to post this. I'm really excited to see this kid play for the Flyers. Can't wait to watch him spear some Penguins

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The SHL is a better league than the AHL as well, and they play very sound defensive hockey that is easily transferable onto NA ice unlike some other countries... so it kind of negates the need to come to the AHL unlike most other euros. So I do not think it makes too much sense.

(Year after move):

AHL players score 0.44 points per AHL point in the NHL.
SHL players score 0.78 points per SHL point in the NHL.

The only reason I think would be to come over when he is ready for the NHL and play the first 20~ games of the year in the AHL to adjust.
Let him stay in the SHL for a few more years until he dominates. The flyers have two other defense prospects who are closer to NHL ready in Alt and Gostisbehere. It isn't the best idea to introduce multiple rookies on defense into the lineup all at the same time. Add Alt next year, Gostisbehere the year after, and Hagg or Morin in 2016.

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Would really like to see Alt get into a few games this season

I really hope Ghost heads to the AHL next season

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Next year the starting D could be:

Coburn-Schenn
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Gustafsson-Alt

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Next year the starting D could be:

Coburn-Schenn
Streit-Grossmann
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That has potential disaster written all over it.

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Next year the starting D could be:

Coburn-Schenn
Streit-Grossmann
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Yeah, was thinking about that. Even with Giroux's extension kicking in, we'd be more than 15 million under a 70 million cap with only needing to re-sign a few restricted free agents (Mason, B. Schenn, Raffl), backup goaltender and either re-sign or upgrade from Downie.

That doesn't even include Pronger's LTIR $.

I wonder if we take a run at Vanek, Cammaleri or Callahan in the offseason.

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