HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

Trade Thread Part XI: New year...no trades.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-04-2014, 12:17 PM
  #176
RangerBoy
1994 FOREVER
 
RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 31,530
vCash: 500
Darren Dreger was on the NHL Network last night. The Rangers aren't in a rush to trade Del Zotto/won't trade him just to move him. He may end staying here the entire season.

RangerBoy is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:22 PM
  #177
Rust Heisenberg
Registered User
 
Rust Heisenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 6,240
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerBoy View Post
Darren Dreger was on the NHL Network last night. The Rangers aren't in a rush to trade Del Zotto/won't trade him just to move him. He may end staying here the entire season.
Nice. Excellent. More distractions for the team.

Rust Heisenberg is online now  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:24 PM
  #178
SERE 24
LGR
 
SERE 24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 9,779
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerBoy View Post
Darren Dreger was on the NHL Network last night. The Rangers aren't in a rush to trade Del Zotto/won't trade him just to move him. He may end staying here the entire season.
The Rangers aren't in a rush to do anything. Sather just got a clean bill of health at his last check up so sit back and enjoy the next decade of your New York Rangers.

SERE 24 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:25 PM
  #179
BrooklynRangersFan
Change is good.
 
BrooklynRangersFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn of course
Country: United States
Posts: 10,097
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerBoy View Post
Darren Dreger was on the NHL Network last night. The Rangers aren't in a rush to trade Del Zotto/won't trade him just to move him. He may end staying here the entire season.
They have control over the contract, so if you can't get value now, you can always re-explore at the draft or next year. And, if you decide to move Girardi and/or Staal, you may want to keep him to play (and in so doing, hopefully improve his stock) anyway. Girardi is actually the highest priority for this reason.

You know, I can never actively root against the team when the games are on - I will always be cheering for even my least favorite player to make a play that helps the team pull out the win when they're actually one ice.

But objectively, it might not be the worst thing in the world for the team to go on a mini losing streak this month and clearly identify themselves as one of the bottom six teams in the league. At least that would (hopefully) force management to make a call on the team and commit to a direction, rather than half-assing it. They're only 1-2 losses away right now.

BrooklynRangersFan is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:29 PM
  #180
dethomas07
Registered User
 
dethomas07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New York, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,204
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerBoy View Post
Darren Dreger was on the NHL Network last night. The Rangers aren't in a rush to trade Del Zotto/won't trade him just to move him. He may end staying here the entire season.
im glad though..

they shouldn't move him just to move him..

Coaches got to get him going..

dethomas07 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:29 PM
  #181
SERE 24
LGR
 
SERE 24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 9,779
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrooklynRangersFan View Post
They have control over the contract, so if you can't get value now, you can always re-explore at the draft or next year. And, if you decide to move Girardi and/or Staal, you may want to keep him to play (and in so doing, hopefully improve his stock) anyway. Girardi is actually the highest priority for this reason.

You know, I can never actively root against the team when the games are on - I will always be cheering for even my least favorite player to make a play that helps the team pull out the win when they're actually one ice.

But objectively, it might not be the worst thing in the world for the team to go on a mini losing streak this month and clearly identify themselves as one of the bottom six teams in the league. At least that would (hopefully) force management to make a call on the team and commit to a direction, rather than half-assing it. They're only 1-2 losses away right now.
Absolutely. Being clearly outside the hunt and sellers would be a good designation for a team that is always, in all facets, flip flopping in the middle with no direction or plan. Buying and going for it is clearly folly but seems possible nonetheless. A losing streak that drives home the error in following that course would do more good than harm.

SERE 24 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:29 PM
  #182
Rust Heisenberg
Registered User
 
Rust Heisenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 6,240
vCash: 50
A top 4 pick coupled with trading Girardi, MDZ, and Brassard (if not more) for prospects that strategically fit AV's system, will do wonders for the team moving forward.

Pitt had no reservations about trading Jordan Staal this offseason and they're a more complete team because of it. Competent management that has foresight and a plan... that's what begins the process for success.

Rust Heisenberg is online now  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:43 PM
  #183
Richter915
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 359
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerBoy View Post
Darren Dreger was on the NHL Network last night. The Rangers aren't in a rush to trade Del Zotto/won't trade him just to move him. He may end staying here the entire season.
Slats is a hardball GM, he will never just get rid of a player for the hell of it. Remember Scott Gomez? He not only got chris higgins (who at the time was trending up)but also ryan freaking mcdonagh. Brandon Dubinksy/Artem Anisimov? Try Rick Nash. Slats will not get rid of MDZ to get someone like cody franson. Requires a lot of patience from the paying fans tho.

Richter915 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:48 PM
  #184
Richter915
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 359
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjets36 View Post
A top 4 pick coupled with trading Girardi, MDZ, and Brassard (if not more) for prospects that strategically fit AV's system, will do wonders for the team moving forward.

Pitt had no reservations about trading Jordan Staal this offseason and they're a more complete team because of it. Competent management that has foresight and a plan... that's what begins the process for success.
this is true but what really hurt us was getting rid of Gaborik to fit torts's game.

Sadly the team doesn't have much room to develop, we have to be in win now mode until lundqvist completely degrades.

Richter915 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 12:52 PM
  #185
theFiGS
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,131
vCash: 500
Del zotto Callahan Girardi 1st for eberle 1st.

theFiGS is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 01:00 PM
  #186
GAGLine
Registered User
 
GAGLine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 9,038
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by theFiGS View Post
Del zotto Callahan Girardi 1st for eberle 1st.
Massive overpayment.

GAGLine is online now  
Old
01-04-2014, 01:01 PM
  #187
theFiGS
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by GAGLine View Post
Massive overpayment.
Really? I mean they'll have a top 3 pick we'll have 10-15 pick plus Girardi Callahan coming off the books and eberle is a first line winger. Sounds good to me

theFiGS is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 01:13 PM
  #188
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,357
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DelZottoHitTheNetJK View Post


Pyatt to PIT for Jussi Jokinen?

Oh.. wait

Said it before and I'll say it again now.. Should've picked him up off waivers. Glen is a moron. Guy's been torching us non stop.
Yep. What this team really needs is a guy who has 3 goals in his last 26 games.

Trxjw is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 01:22 PM
  #189
SERE 24
LGR
 
SERE 24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 9,779
vCash: 500
I'd keep Girardi but hope to target a more offensive minded top 3 quality damn to pair with McDonagh. Not an offense only guy, just a guy who moves the puck and shoots the puck better than Girardi and can play 20+. If we can only find a young player that needs 1-2 years before they can play there, then we let G play with McD until that player is ready to bump Girardi to the second pairing.

Callahan we move at the deadline because I think he will fetch a nice return. Possibly the dman above. People are saying get a pick and a prospect for Cally but if we could move Cally and another small piece for Byfuglien, for example, we fill a huge need immediately. Maybe I'm way off. WPG keeps asking for wingers and is loaded on the right side.

Try to move Del Zotto for a Brassard like player. Preferably someone with a bit more sandpaper. A project with upside for a project with upside. Add slightly to Del Zotto if we need to, a 2nd or a B prospect.

If we could ice:

Kreider - Richards - Nash
Hagelin - Stepan - XXX from Del Zotto trade
Pouliot - Brassard - Miller
Dorsett - Boyle - Moore
McDonagh - Byfuglien
Staal - Girardi
Allen/Moore - Stralman

We'd probably be better this season considering only Callahan and Del Zotto are missing from the above and neither has been playing much recently. In the off season, if we managed to buy out Richards and replace him with a guy like Stastny we'd look a whole lot better. Someone from Kristo, Fast, Lindberg, Hrivik should be ready to step in for Pouliot's spot, but a stop gap can be signed as well. Try to get a Fraser or Reaves type for the fourth line and keep Boyle there, assuming he doesn't look for much difference in salary. He's a good 4th liner. We just need to stop trying to use him liken he's more than that. Sign a bottom pairing vet dman for insurance.



That's the quick, sloppy version.

Kreisler - Stastny - Nash
Zuccarello - Stepan - Kristo/XXX
Hagelin - Miller - Brassard
Dorsett - Boyle - Fraser
McDonagh - Byfuglien
Staal - Girardi
Allen/Moore - McIlrath/XXX


Blah.

SERE 24 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 01:58 PM
  #190
Raspewtin
Kreidizzle
 
Raspewtin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Howard Beach, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 7,991
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by theFiGS View Post
Del zotto Callahan Girardi 1st for eberle 1st.
If the Rangers want to move away from the country club, no effort mentality, Eberle is the last player we should be keying on.

Lazy, disinterested, plays no defense whatsoever, doesn't score nearly enough to make up for how bad he is.

__________________

Thank you boys
Raspewtin is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:01 PM
  #191
haohmaru
#bdwyblueshirts
 
haohmaru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Fleming Island, Fl
Country: United States
Posts: 5,328
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by theFiGS View Post
Del zotto Callahan Girardi 1st for eberle 1st.
Callahan will get you a 1st and maybe more
Girardi will get you a 1st and more

MDZ + prospect + 2nd or 3rd might get you Eberle. MDZ is an RFA and Eberle is a 6 million dollar cap hit.

haohmaru is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:22 PM
  #192
DelZottoHitTheNetJK
Registered User
 
DelZottoHitTheNetJK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 799
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trxjw View Post
Yep. What this team really needs is a guy who has 3 goals in his last 26 games.
And yet he's been a more productive player than Derek Stepan at a smaller cap hit!

We seriously couldn't have mustered up a conditional 7th for this guy? We'd automatically have at least 2 more wins from the fact alone that he wouldn't be playing against us..

DelZottoHitTheNetJK is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:26 PM
  #193
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,357
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DelZottoHitTheNetJK View Post
And yet he's been a more productive player than Derek Stepan at a smaller cap hit!

We seriously couldn't have mustered up a conditional 7th for this guy? We'd automatically have at least 2 more wins from the fact alone that he wouldn't be playing against us..
Yet he wouldn't have been at that cap hit had we picked him up on waivers, which is what you were after this team to do. He's also playing on a much more competitive team with a stronger group of forwards.

We lost 5-2. Take away his 2 goals and we still lose that game. Not to mention trying to assess player benefit like that makes no sense.

Trxjw is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:29 PM
  #194
tornmeniscus
Old School
 
tornmeniscus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 309
vCash: 500
Deal with Avalanche?

http://sulia.com/channel/colorado-av...source=twitter

tornmeniscus is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:32 PM
  #195
SERE 24
LGR
 
SERE 24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 9,779
vCash: 500
Probably looking at the Sharks. I'd love McGinn from Colorado.

SERE 24 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:36 PM
  #196
bernmeister
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,935
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17futurecap View Post
Closing in on the 6th worst record in the league, sell Mortimer sell.
Great movie, "Randolph":laugh :

bernmeister is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:36 PM
  #197
Vitto79
Registered User
 
Vitto79's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sarnia
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,339
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SERE 24 View Post
Probably looking at the Sharks. I'd love McGinn from Colorado.
McGinn , McLeod , Barrie are the targets is think . Again dz and d Moore for Barrie and McLeod

Vitto79 is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:37 PM
  #198
HatTrick Swayze
Tomato Potato
 
HatTrick Swayze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 9,238
vCash: 500
Yea McGinn would be a really good fit here. But I wouldn't overpay for him.

__________________
"Here we can see the agression of american people. They love fighting and guns. when they wont win they try to kill us all." -HalfOfFame
HatTrick Swayze is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:42 PM
  #199
bernmeister
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,935
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Rash View Post
I agree, Sather should sell (which he'll never do). Have an awesome draft and we'll be back with a vengeance next year.

As for Tyson Barrie, I think that might be the best you can get for Del Zotto. I would do Del Zotto for Barrie at this point

Outside the box, my friend.

If nothing bigger then, Siemens is less advanced for immediate AV cup run. But upside in potential requires NY to add.

MDZ + X for Siemens/+?

maybe MDZ + Staal for Siemens + Col 1st + small add?

bernmeister is offline  
Old
01-04-2014, 02:54 PM
  #200
RGY
(Jagr68NYR94Leetch)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 7,995
vCash: 500
Can we trade Sam and Joe too

RGY is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:35 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.