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maybe MDZ + Staal for Siemens + Col 1st + small add?
Where are the other 17 pieces?

Let's hypothetically add Stepan, if - if - Colorado sells at least 1,000 Stepan jersey's his first 10.7 games, the Rangers will get a 1st round pick, plus something conditional, perhaps ROR, on top of Staal, Girardi, Del Zotto, cash back, low financing, and a 7 year 100,000 powertrain warranty that covers everything but the powertrain.

If only -900 Stepan jersey's are sold within those 10.7 games, perhaps the conditional compensation should be based on a roll of the die. 7's or lower is bust. Higher is bank, although double 6's would result in 2 compensatory picks in the 2018 and 2022 draft (assuming NYR does win at least 14 playoff games, or the Yanks win 3 Champsionships).

In the event a coke/pepsi scenario takes place with the swappage of Stepan/ROR (meaning their Corsi ratings are withing <.0051> of eachother while producing at a.4PPG clip or better @ ES on full moons), the team with the better record will be forced to play 40 home games and 42 away games.

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Where are the other 17 pieces?

Let's hypothetically add Stepan, if - if - Colorado sells at least 1,000 Stepan jersey's his first 10.7 games, the Rangers will get a 1st round pick, plus something conditional, perhaps ROR, on top of Staal, Girardi, Del Zotto, cash back, low financing, and a 7 year 100,000 powertrain warranty that covers everything but the powertrain.

If only -900 Stepan jersey's are sold within those 10.7 games, perhaps the conditional compensation should be based on a roll of the die. 7's or lower is bust. Higher is bank, although double 6's would result in 2 compensatory picks in the 2018 and 2022 draft (assuming NYR does win at least 14 playoff games, or the Yanks win 3 Champsionships).

In the event a coke/pepsi scenario takes place with the swappage of Stepan/ROR (meaning their Corsi ratings are withing <.0051> of eachother while producing at a.4PPG clip or better @ ES on full moons), the team with the better record will be forced to play 40 home games and 42 away games.
Post of the year. (And last year)

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According to this post, further down, says AV winger Tanguay is iffy, may need season ending hip surgery?

Hhmmn. Is this an outside the box opportunity?

add a LW to MDZ. Consider PROSPECTS. PICKS.
What's max we can get back?
Maybe one more, Brian Boyle for depth.

What is max for MDZ + Boyle + ??? Hagelin? Nash?? an improved Pouilot?
Anyone besides Kreider/Miller....


Andrew Yogan deserves a crack here in NY.

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Where are the other 17 pieces?

Let's hypothetically add Stepan, if - if - Colorado sells at least 1,000 Stepan jersey's his first 10.7 games, the Rangers will get a 1st round pick, plus something conditional, perhaps ROR, on top of Staal, Girardi, Del Zotto, cash back, low financing, and a 7 year 100,000 powertrain warranty that covers everything but the powertrain.

If only -900 Stepan jersey's are sold within those 10.7 games, perhaps the conditional compensation should be based on a roll of the die. 7's or lower is bust. Higher is bank, although double 6's would result in 2 compensatory picks in the 2018 and 2022 draft (assuming NYR does win at least 14 playoff games, or the Yanks win 3 Champsionships).

In the event a coke/pepsi scenario takes place with the swappage of Stepan/ROR (meaning their Corsi ratings are withing <.0051> of eachother while producing at a.4PPG clip or better @ ES on full moons), the team with the better record will be forced to play 40 home games and 42 away games.
And if no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.

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And if no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.
Such an underrated movie.

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Where are the other 17 pieces?

Let's hypothetically add Stepan, if - if - Colorado sells at least 1,000 Stepan jersey's his first 10.7 games, the Rangers will get a 1st round pick, plus something conditional, perhaps ROR, on top of Staal, Girardi, Del Zotto, cash back, low financing, and a 7 year 100,000 powertrain warranty that covers everything but the powertrain.

If only -900 Stepan jersey's are sold within those 10.7 games, perhaps the conditional compensation should be based on a roll of the die. 7's or lower is bust. Higher is bank, although double 6's would result in 2 compensatory picks in the 2018 and 2022 draft (assuming NYR does win at least 14 playoff games, or the Yanks win 3 Champsionships).

In the event a coke/pepsi scenario takes place with the swappage of Stepan/ROR (meaning their Corsi ratings are withing <.0051> of eachother while producing at a.4PPG clip or better @ ES on full moons), the team with the better record will be forced to play 40 home games and 42 away games.

But not a because underneath it is obviously and with too much .

Some posters handle pressure better than others. Too much coke, not enough pepsi... not everybody can handle thinking outside the box.

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Such an underrated movie.
Dude, you said no more Journey psyche-outs! Infractions for everrrryone~

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But not a because underneath it is obviously and with too much .

Some posters handle pressure better than others. Too much coke, not enough pepsi... not everybody can handle thinking outside the box.
My thinking was as far outside the box as I'm allowed to post without being perma-banned. :

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McGinn , McLeod , Barrie are the targets is think . Again dz and d Moore for Barrie and McLeod
McGinn and McLeod? We need more third/fourth liner pluggers? How does that improve our skill level and do you really need to send two scouts to watch those guys? Doesn't make sense.

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Dreger brought up Ottawa again as being interested but there is no match with the Rangers.

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McGinn and McLeod? We need more third/fourth liner pluggers? How does that improve our skill level and do you really need to send two scouts to watch those guys? Doesn't make sense.
Just got carcillo to fight so now thinking they either go for a top 6 winger or young rd w pick for dz

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Just got carcillo to fight so now thinking they either go for a top 6 winger or young rd w pick for dz
Carcillo stinks.

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based on what? his 2 goals in 25 games in the AHL?

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Carcillo stinks.
That game was disgusting last night. They need a Carcillo type unfortunately.

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Here is what we got to trade

Still unsure on Duclairs $$

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013-2014 (47)
NEW YORK RANGERS (24)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
1 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
2 D Del Zotto, M. $2,550,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #20 NYR (2008)
3 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* RFA 2014New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009)
4 F Zuccarello, Mats $1,150,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
5 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
6 F Callahan, Ryan $4,275,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #127 NYR (2004)
7 D Girardi, Dan $3,325,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
8 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
9 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
10 F Pouliot, Benoit $1,300,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #4 Minnesota Wild (2005)
11 F Moore, Dominic $1,000,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #95 NYR (2000)
12 D Falk, Justin $975,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #110 Minnesota Wild (2007)
13 F Carcillo, Dan $825,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #73 Pittsburgh Penguins (2003)
14 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #15 NYR (2011)
15 F Hagelin, Carl $2,250,000 RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007)
16 F Stepan, Derek$3,075,000 RFA 2015New York Rangers/NHLR2 #51 NYR (2008)
17 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
18 D Staal, Marc $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005)
19 F Dorsett, Derek injured $1,633,333 UFA 2015New York Rangers/NHLR7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
20 D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2016New York Rangers/NHLUndrafted
21 F Nash, Rick (NMC??) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus Blue Jackets (2002)
22 D McDonagh, Ryan $4,700,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
23 F Richards, Brad (NMC) $6,666,667 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)
24 G Lundqvist, Henrik (NMC) $8,500,000 UFA 2021 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000)

Cap space right now (January 5, 2014) for 2013/2014 (24 player roster incl. Dorsett out) - $1,925,321
Cap Space Trade Deadline - $4,837,986

Assigned to AHL/ECHL (23)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
25 F Kristo, Danny (ELC) $1,300,000* RFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008)
26 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* RFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted
27 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009)
28 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* RFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHLUndrafted
29 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR5 #140 NYR (2009)
30 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 RFA 2014 Wichita Thunder/CHL R5 #130 NYR (2010)
31 F Beach, Kyle $550,000 RFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R1 #1 Chicago Blackhawks (2008)
32 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 UFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted
33 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 UFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
34 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 UFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted
35 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 UFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted
36 D Johnson, Aaron $600,000 UFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #85 Columbus Blue Jackets (2001)
37 D Syvret, Danny $587,500 UFA 2014 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #81 Edmonton Oilers (2005)
38 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHLR1 #10 NYR (2010)
39 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHLR6 #157 NYR (2010)
40 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010)
41 F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #57 PHX (2010)
42 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted
43 D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $608,333 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHLUndrafted
44 F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167 RFA 2016 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
45 D Noreau, Samuel (ELC) $685,000 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R5 #136 NYR(2011)
46 F St. Croix, M. (ELC) $665,000 RFA 2016 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R4 #106 NYR (2011)
47 F Kantor, Michael (ELC) $583,333 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHLUndrafted
(48) F Duclair, Anthony (ELC-S) $800,000*??? RFA 2016 Juniors - Québec Remparts/QMJHL R3 #80 NYR(2013)
(49) D Donnay, Troy (ELC-S) $716,667* RFA 2016 Juniors - London Knights/OHL Undrafted

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe)
Pos PlayerTeam Drafted
D Pashnin, Mikhail HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA R3 #72 NYR (2011)
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/NCAA R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D Andersson, Calle Malmö /HA R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F Spelling, Thomas Sonderjyske/Denmark R5 #142 NYR(2012)
F Adam Tambellini North Dakota/NCAA R3 #65 NYR(2013)
F Pavel Buchnevich Cherepovets/KHL R3 #75 NYR(2013)
D Ryan Graves PEI/QMJHL R4 #110 NYR(2013)
G Mackenzie Skapski Kootenay/WHL R6 #170 NYR(2013)

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

2014 Draft picks
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (acquired for Casey Wellman)
  • 6th round NYR

We lost our 2014 5th rounder to San José in the Ryan Clowe trade 2013 as conditions were met
We eventually lost a 7th (conditional) to The LA Kings in the Carcillo trade


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That game was disgusting last night. They need a Carcillo type unfortunately.
Because what was missing was a parade to the penalty box?

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Because what was missing was a parade to the penalty box?
Would've been better than watching them get pushed around. They lost 5-2. 5-2 to a penguins team that has a laundry list of injuries. They let AHL call ups beat on them. At least if they are going to lose, they can do it with an edge. They looked pathetic last night.

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Ron McLean said earlier in the pre game show that Nash is making the Canadian Olympic team from what he has heard

DZ. Friedman-Slats will discuss his status with Newport tonight. Glen wasn't on the trip until tonight. Healey said just trade him already.

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Trading Del Zotto is dumb right now. Let him play and work up his value, it can't get any worse.

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cbc is reporting Sam gagner wouldnt mind being traded.. whats everyones take on him..

is he like brass?

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No to Gagner.No no no no

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Yes. He's exactly like Brass.

Stay far away.

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cbc is reporting Sam gagner wouldnt mind being traded.. whats everyones take on him..

is he like brass?
Very much so. He isn't a three zone player. Fits the mold of skilled 2nd line center on losing teams.

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no doubt..just saw it and thought it was interesting..

i pray slats can make a move for yak with mdz.. im so glad we're not them though bc they really seem clueless on how to turn their ship around.. 4 1st overall picks and they still suck=have no idea what we're doing..

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Yes. He's exactly like Brass.

Stay far away.
Except he's a worse skater.

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