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01-05-2014, 01:24 PM
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@tweetneal is a good follow for OKC Barons stuff. He was saying last night that the C.Hamilton-Martindale-Pitlick line has been untouchable. Barons were down 3-0 last night and Nelson started tinkering with lines but left that one alone, and they scored 5 unanswered goals to win the game.

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01-05-2014, 01:30 PM
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@tweetneal is a good follow for OKC Barons stuff. He was saying last night that the C.Hamilton-Martindale-Pitlick line has been untouchable. Barons were down 3-0 last night and Nelson started tinkering with lines but left that one alone, and they scored 5 unanswered goals to win the game.
LOL all three of our favourite whipping boys. Good to see them proving the naysayers wrong with some strong play.

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01-05-2014, 01:33 PM
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LOL all three of our favourite whipping boys. Good to see them proving the naysayers wrong with some strong play.
We've become too spoiled with seeing our top prospects go right into the NHL. It took some time with these guys (and others) but its finally paying off and Nelson is doing a great job.

It was his 500th game as head coach last night and his record is pretty damn good. I didn't mind the Eakins hiring but I wish MacT would have at least interviewed Todd Nelson for the Oilers job. It's going to suck losing him to another organization.


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01-05-2014, 03:50 PM
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We've become to spoiled with seeing our top prospects go right into the NHL. It took some time with these guys (and others) but its finally paying off and Nelson is doing a great job.

It was his 500th game as head coach last night and his record is pretty damn good. I didn't mind the Eakins hiring but I wish MacT would have at least interviewed Todd Nelson for the Oilers job. It's going to suck losing him to another organization.
Maybe they could get him to replace Acton as assistant?

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01-05-2014, 04:23 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as a HC somewhere else.

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01-06-2014, 05:16 AM
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Hopefully he gets a chance here if Eakins is fired, which is unlikely. The more plausible scenario is that someone else picks him up and the Oiler brass look like idiots, again, for hiring a guy MacT would like to grab a beer with over someone way better at actual coaching within our own system.

One thing I've noticed is that OKC always seem finish the season strong, to me that's a sign that the coaching is good. They usually have a big turn over of players but once the team settles in and Nelsons made the right adjustments to fit the roster at hand, the team starts winning more than losing.
I think we'll see a similar scenario this season, once he's adjusted the style of play to the lack of natural offense on his team, they'll find ways to win.

He also seems to get the players to buy in. Guys like Eager, Omark, Hartikainen seem to have worked hard and played to their abilities despite probably being very dissappointed in being sent down.

And the guys coming up seem to be well prepared as well. For some reason they almost look more poised for their first couple of games than after they've been up long enough to catch oileritis.

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01-07-2014, 02:10 AM
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I'd like to see Nelson be an Assistant Coach in Edmonton.

For the love of God, bring in an experienced NHL head coach if Eakins is fired.

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01-07-2014, 04:06 AM
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I'd like to see Nelson be an Assistant Coach in Edmonton.

For the love of God, bring in an experienced NHL head coach if Eakins is fired.
Having a good coach for our AHL team is a good thing, until NHL teams starting making calls asking for permission to talk to him about job openings I wouldn't worry about. We should fire Bucky and Steve Smith for some good assistant coaches not try to water down our coaching pool further, the fact that both Krueger and Eakins have basically confirmed in the open that they would like to add more experience to the coaching staff, makes me think those two aren't really holding up their end of things.

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01-07-2014, 04:09 AM
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I'd like to see Nelson be an Assistant Coach in Edmonton.

For the love of God, bring in an experienced NHL head coach if Eakins is fired.
Nelly was an assistant coach in the NHL before he got the OKC job. He wants to be a head coach, I think he's stated that he will only leave for NHL head coaching gig, not assistant.

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01-07-2014, 08:41 AM
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Nelson has been an NHL assistant already, his next stop will be as a head coach, and it won't be with the Oilers. He was NOT pleased when they went with Eakins over him, and rightly so.

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I think MacT told Nelson to play the prospects and not random AHL lifers.
Personally I think Nelson puts people in a position to succeed. It takes more than ice time to develop a player.

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01-08-2014, 10:55 AM
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he has been a great teacher down there, I think part of Eakins downfall is he came from a team where players were forced to listen to everything he said to get a crack at nhl time. he doesnt have that luxury any more, players can smell BS and his system is proving to be BS. I hope Todd Nelson gets a gig with the oilers he is a very good coach and all the players that play in OKC love him.

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01-11-2014, 01:57 AM
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So whats the hearsay on Gernat?

His numbers are pretty good for a 20 year old rookie.

25 GP 2G 10A 12 P -1

His boxscore numbers are certainly more impressive than Klefbom's
0G 3A -10.

Is Klefbom getting tougher minutes or is Gernat just adjusting better (perhaps due to having played the last 2 years in NA). Marincin looks like he may have a future in the NHL. Gernat too? Or too early to tell.

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So whats the hearsay on Gernat?

His numbers are pretty good for a 20 year old rookie.

25 GP 2G 10A 12 P -1

His boxscore numbers are certainly more impressive than Klefbom's
0G 3A -10.

Is Klefbom getting tougher minutes or is Gernat just adjusting better (perhaps due to having played the last 2 years in NA). Marincin looks like he may have a future in the NHL. Gernat too? Or too early to tell.
Can't comment on his play with the Barons, but in his time with the Oil Kings Gernat always had superlative offensive instincts, so it's not all that surprising (but still encouraging) he's found his way onto the score sheet in the AHL. As far as NHL potential goes, he has a lot of refining to do in his own end, but it's certainly doable for him to make a go of it as a 4/5/6 PP specialist with the outside chance of steady top4 duty if he makes serious defensive strides.

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Gernat's D come has by most accounts improved by leaps and bounds in OKC.

Klefbom is having a harder time adjusting. Missing that year due to surgery likely has a lot to do with it. He was supposed to play this weekend but reaggravated his injury practicing.

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01-13-2014, 02:49 PM
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According to OKC Barons Head Coach Todd Nelson forward Curtis Hamilton will probably be out 5 to 6 weeks with a knee injury


Ugggh. Kid can't catch a break.

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According to OKC Barons Head Coach Todd Nelson forward Curtis Hamilton will probably be out 5 to 6 weeks with a knee injury


Ugggh. Kid can't catch a break.
Wow that sucks a lot. The kid was looking good before this and playing very well.

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Gernat's D come has by most accounts improved by leaps and bounds in OKC.

Klefbom is having a harder time adjusting. Missing that year due to surgery likely has a lot to do with it. He was supposed to play this weekend but reaggravated his injury practicing.
Brutal. What is his injury any way.

Gernat is going to be one of those guys that will get 40+ points if he makes the NHL. He is a powerplay wizard. His defensive game is his liability for sure.

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Brutal. What is his injury any way.

Gernat is going to be one of those guys that will get 40+ points if he makes the NHL. He is a powerplay wizard. His defensive game is his liability for sure.
If anyone has watched alot of the Barons games, who looks better on the Schultz (when he was in OKC) or Gernat?

I could see a good comparison for him being a Franson if things go right

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If anyone has watched alot of the Barons games, who looks better on the Schultz (when he was in OKC) or Gernat?

I could see a good comparison for him being a Franson if things go right
I haven't watched a lot of OKC games this year, but I'd wager and say Schultz by a fair margin. He was putting up points at will, was passable defensively, and won AHL defenseman of the year after only playing half the games.
I like what Gernat is doing there, but a better comparison might be Marincin's rookie season last year. I think Marincin is a safer, less chaotic player, but Gernat has higher offensive upside.

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If anyone has watched alot of the Barons games, who looks better on the Schultz (when he was in OKC) or Gernat?

I could see a good comparison for him being a Franson if things go right
J Schultz looked better, but he was also 22 last year, Gernat is still just 20. Gernat could be another J Schultz. I think that is his upside really, which isn't all that bad.

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I haven't watched a lot of OKC games this year, but I'd wager and say Schultz by a fair margin. He was putting up points at will, was passable defensively, and won AHL defenseman of the year after only playing half the games.
I like what Gernat is doing there, but a better comparison might be Marincin's rookie season last year. I think Marincin is a safer, less chaotic player, but Gernat has higher offensive upside.
Schultz also had Eberle/Hall/RNH on the PP helping him rack up points. I would like to see if Gernats style on the PP is different then Schultzs. Schultz like to pass alot, and uses his wrister from the top. While the sneaky wrister is good, it would be good to get a guy with a cannon. That can open alot of other options for other players when other teams have to respect the shot (like getting Yakupov open alot more)

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I haven't watched a lot of OKC games this year, but I'd wager and say Schultz by a fair margin. He was putting up points at will, was passable defensively, and won AHL defenseman of the year after only playing half the games.
I like what Gernat is doing there, but a better comparison might be Marincin's rookie season last year. I think Marincin is a safer, less chaotic player, but Gernat has higher offensive upside.
What are the issues with Gernats defensive game? He's not exactly piled up a minus over his 27 game stint, I am curious.

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What are the issues with Gernats defensive game? He's not exactly piled up a minus over his 27 game stint, I am curious.
He just doesn't seem to have a very structured game defensively. He's basically a rover and a 4th forward out there who, especially early in the season, would pinch at pretty inopportune times and leave his partner out to dry. He's a high risk player, who if it is for positive or negative reasons is always noticeable one way or the other.

He's an interesting player and I'm looking forward to tracking his development. He's fun to watch, but some of his decisions leave you pulling your hair out. He also like Marincin needs to fill out and maybe become a little more physical I would say, but hopefully that comes when he develops more meat on his bones.

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With marincin starting to struggle a bit ( expected for a rookie D) I would send him down and bring up Fedun who is doing very well in the AHL and deserves some NHL time.

Let Fedun get a taste of the NHL and let's see what he's got. In the mean time hopefully klefbom continues to progress. Then when Fedun starts to falter, swap him for klefbom and give klefbom some NHL time

Since our season is lost anyway, we might as will experiment with our D in okc in order to build for next year

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