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01-07-2014, 03:20 PM
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Giroux didnt have a good start and it cost him. Duchene and Benn were both right even with Giroux in points but both had more Goals. That looks to be the determining factor. Unfortunately we all saw how badly he was slumping this year.

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01-07-2014, 03:27 PM
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After a quick count, 4 Flyers are playing in the Olympics (Voracek, Streit, Timonen, Raffl), but there are 9 former flyers on the Olympics. Granted, 5 of them are Nedved, Krajicek, Thoresen, Tollefsen, and Bartulis, but I'd still take Sharp, Carter, Jagr, and Bobrovsky over the Flyers' Olympians.

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Better than going into the olympics red hot...then getting hurt.
Noted.

On top of what I mentioned, Giroux was going to have to change positions. I think not going to the camp is a bigger deal than how his season has gone.

The next best thing he can do is make his case if someone gets hurt. Because someone will get hurt.

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After a quick count, 4 Flyers are playing in the Olympics (Voracek, Streit, Timonen, Raffl), but there are 9 former flyers on the Olympics. Granted, 5 of them are Nedved, Krajicek, Thoresen, Tollefsen, and Bartulis, but I'd still take Sharp, Carter, Jagr, and Bobrovsky over the Flyers' Olympians.
Voracek
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A travesty.

I can count on one hand the number of better forwards Canada has.

Can't wait until Canada loses.

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After a quick count, 4 Flyers are playing in the Olympics (Voracek, Streit, Timonen, Raffl), but there are 9 former flyers on the Olympics. Granted, 5 of them are Nedved, Krajicek, Thoresen, Tollefsen, and Bartulis, but I'd still take Sharp, Carter, Jagr, and Bobrovsky over the Flyers' Olympians.
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01-07-2014, 03:39 PM
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Noted.

On top of what I mentioned, Giroux was going to have to change positions. I think not going to the camp is a bigger deal than how his season has gone.

The next best thing he can do is make his case if someone gets hurt. Because someone will get hurt.
Politics came into play big time with today's announcement. I get that they were probably upset that Giroux didn't show up to the summer camp, but look at the names of some of the forwards on the roster. Yzerman played politics, no doubt about it.

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01-07-2014, 03:44 PM
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Politics came into play big time with today's announcement. I get that they were probably upset that Giroux didn't show up to the summer camp, but look at the names of some of the forwards on the roster. Yzerman played politics, no doubt about it.
Where's the evidence?

Other than the inclusion of Nash, which I guess you could explain in terms of politics, I'm just not seeing it. Benn was invited to the camp and plays for a southern US market and he was included. If Stevie Y was playing politics and favorites, why did he leave MSL off?

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01-07-2014, 03:44 PM
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I think it is possible that Crosby played an indirect role in not selecting Giroux.
Canada may have been scared of bad team chemistry because of how Crosby would feel with Giroux on the team.
Crosby being Canada's most valuable export will get whatever Canada thinks will help him perform better.


Would have been interesting to see how Giroux fared with top tier wingers on his line.

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01-07-2014, 03:57 PM
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I think it is possible that Crosby played an indirect role in not selecting Giroux.
Canada may have been scared of bad team chemistry because of how Crosby would feel with Giroux on the team.
Crosby being Canada's most valuable export will get whatever Canada thinks will help him perform better.


Would have been interesting to see how Giroux fared with top tier wingers on his line.
I really doubt Crosby had anything to do with it, or with the selection of Kunitz for that matter.

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01-07-2014, 03:59 PM
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It's pretty great. He gets pissed off and motivated, and it's likely he goes anyway when someone predictably gets hurt.

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This is absurd that Giroux isn't making it, and even more absurd that Martin St-Louis was ignored AGAIN. Two francophones ignored for mysterious reasons, typical Canada.

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Canada's mistake is the United State's gain so it's all good.

Should have made the team of course, but whatever, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.

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He's a crybaby but this would take it to another level. I can't stand the guy like many here but I can't imagine he'll put his own ego above the Canadian squad.
You underestimate professional athletes and their ego.

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I really doubt Crosby had anything to do with it, or with the selection of Kunitz for that matter.
I think that's a Bylsma thing.

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01-07-2014, 04:34 PM
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You could be right Bobby Clarke about politics except to say Martin St Louis was not picked either.When Quebec was producing players enmasse many were arguing why more or less french players were on roster.It a long history in canada of english vs french.I mean one could argue did Tyler Seguin have a real chance considering Boston Bruin Gm was one of canadas pickers

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Its very easy to go off on a knee jerk reaction every time the Olympics come around especially with Roo, Marty St Louis, Ryan, etc left off of their respective countries teams.........I really hate it for Roo especially but i do understand that building a " team" takes many different type players, skill sets, ego's, chemistry, etc,,,,,,,,,, There really is no perfect way to select a team ..........Its just the way it is and a fact that there will always be great players left off a club. Rick Nash getting on was a shocker to most, but i am sure Mike Babcock ( who is a helluva lot smarter than any of us ) knows certain things about Nash that will fit in with the " chemistry" of the team......Mart St Louis plays for a GM that is part of putting together the team and even he got left off ? ( for now ) .

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Where's the evidence?

Other than the inclusion of Nash, which I guess you could explain in terms of politics, I'm just not seeing it. Benn was invited to the camp and plays for a southern US market and he was included. If Stevie Y was playing politics and favorites, why did he leave MSL off?
Stamkos was definitely political. I'm sorry, but you don't break your leg, get it operated on and then be ready for the Olympics within six weeks. Just doesn't happen.

I also look at a guy like Kunitz being on the roster. If he's not riding shotgun with Crosby, he doesn't even sniff the collective jock strap of Team Canada.

Nash was definitely political. So what if he's been there in the past. The past two seasons, he's been mediocre to terrible and coming off a concussion that kept him sidelined for several weeks, he's still battling to come to form.

I even look at a guy like Brent Seabrook being left off the roster so that a guy like Jay Bouwmeester is added. Or how about how Shea Weber gets a free pass even though he's sucked this year.

There's definitely politics being played here. Make no bones about it.

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Not true at all.

It's a conflicht between chechens and the russian government. This is their way of "protest".

Edit: Yes, the asssassins may be Islamic oriented but it's a political conflict instead of a religious one. Still sad.

Back to topic.
It is more than a "protest". Chechens want their own state and their culture/religion is Islamic and would implement Sharia Law. The suicide bombers are convinced that they will be martyrs and are acceptable as part of their religion (or how their religion is taught along the same lines as how other terrorists are brainwashed).

While the bombings are a protest, nothing would embarrass Putin and the Russian government more than a successful attack at the Olympics. Security will be very tight, but it is not a zero probability that something would be attempted.

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I want to find something to complain about Giroux with but i cant...outside of that first month and his skipping of the team canada orientation which both just pissed me off...he has been one of the elite canadian players in the league. Im hoping that he uses it to fuel his season and he becomes as lethal as he was in the penguins playoffs a few years back. We need the G that can put the team on his back and take over a game.

I think Canada really screwed this up

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Little late to the party here.

1. I'm shocked Giroux didn't make it. Canada will regret it. Like others have said, at least it will give him time to rest and light a fire under his ass. I'll give him a pep talk when I see him at the carnival.

2. I think Marty St. Louis is a bigger snub than Giroux. Especially if Stamkos is on the team. I figured if they want Crosby and Kunitz together, they'd want Stamkos and St. Louis together too. Hell, even without Stamkos, St. Louis can still do a lot of damage.

3. Rick Nash? He's still in the middle of his "slow start" and he managed to make it? What a joke.

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6 hours later and I'm still raging. We aren't talking about a bubble guy here. This isn't like we're debating Eric staal or Tyler Seguin. This is Claude ****ing Giroux. The playoff performer, the game breaker, the "put your team on his back" type of guy. This has to be one of the biggest snubs in Canadian hockey.

I also find it EXTREMELY hypocritical that St.louis was left off the team. The only logical explanation for Kunitz making the team is because of chemistry with Crosby. Yet they completely ignore St.louis' (who is obviously 100x the player Kunitz is) chemistry with Stamkos.

Rick Nash is a laughable pick. I'll just leave it at that.

Honestly, and maybe I'm not patriotic, but i don't think I'll be so heartbroken if Canada doesn't win a gold just so Yzmerman and company can realize how moronic leaving Giroux and St.louis off this team really was

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Little late to the party here.

1. I'm shocked Giroux didn't make it. Canada will regret it. Like others have said, at least it will give him time to rest and light a fire under his ass. I'll give him a pep talk when I see him at the carnival.

2. I think Marty St. Louis is a bigger snub than Giroux. Especially if Stamkos is on the team. I figured if they want Crosby and Kunitz together, they'd want Stamkos and St. Louis together too. Hell, even without Stamkos, St. Louis can still do a lot of damage.

3. Rick Nash? He's still in the middle of his "slow start" and he managed to make it? What a joke.
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