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Semi-Annual Prospect Poll: #5 NYR Prospect

View Poll Results: Who is our #5 prospect
D Brady Skjei 28 40.00%
LW Anthony Duclair 2 2.86%
LW Pavel Buchnevich 1 1.43%
C Oscar Lindberg 11 15.71%
RW Jesper Fast 9 12.86%
RW Danny Kristo 19 27.14%
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01-07-2014, 05:35 PM
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Semi-Annual Prospect Poll: #5 NYR Prospect

On the strength of his terrific performance, Cam Talbot won the #4 spot. LW Anthony Duclair is added to the poll.

Please write who you want added to the poll, and give a reason for it. This makes the discussion here more lively.


WHO IS A PROSPECT: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/whatmakesaprospect

HOW TO RANK PROSPECTS: Based on their value in a hypothetical trade or waiver draft. This takes into consideration a prospect's ceiling, how close he's to making it, his health, work ethic, the whole deal. Imagine there was a prospect waiver draft and you could keep only one prospect. That guy is our #1 prospect. Then imagine we had one more waiver protection. That guy is our #2 prospect.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider
2. C J.T. Miller
3. D Dylan McIlrath
4. G Cameron Talbot

Cameron Talbot
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Born Jul 5 1987 -- Caledonia, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 200 [191 cm/91 kg]

2013-14 New York Rangers NHL 14GP 9-3-0 1.66 0.938




PROSPECTS ELIGIBLE TO BE ADDED

Allen, Conor
Andersson, Calle
Beach, Kyle
Bourque, Ryan
Donnay, Troy
Fogarty, Steven
Graves, Ryan
Hrivik, Marek
Hughes, Tommy
Jean, Kyle
Kantor, Michael
Missiaen, Jason
Nicholls, Josh
Nieves, Cristoval
Noreau, Samuel
St. Croix, Michael
Skapski, Mackenzie
Spelling, Thomas
Stajcer, Scott
Tambellini, Adam
Wilson, Jason
Yogan, Andrew

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Kristo, while his defensive game still sucks, he's still a very good offensive threat. Probably our purest scorer in the system.

Add Allen.

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Very close this round. I can see people going with Kristo because of his offensive creativity; Butch because of his play as an 18 year old top-9er in the KHL; Fast because he's so close to the NHL and has a top-6 potential ceiling.

But I went with Lindberg. He's a first liner in the AHL (albeit on a terrible team), was a SEL playoff MVP and almost certainly will be an NHLer because of his good all-around game. It was close between him and Fast, but I went with Lindberg because he's healthier.

I think Allen is the easy add here because he's so close to playing in the NHL.

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01-07-2014, 05:45 PM
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Skjei. Allen.

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Kristo, Allen.

Already posted why last thread.

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Lindberg. Very close to Skjei in terms of ceiling/upside to me. But Lindberg is a Center, and farther along.

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Went with Fast. I think he has the potential to be a top 6 winger for us for a long time. Injuries have been an issue but I think they're flukey and not indicative of him being plagued. He made the team out of camp and I don't think people expected that. He is playing in all 3 zones and in all aspects of the game. After him will be Lindberg/Skjei/Kristo in some order....

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Talbot already overrated. Fourth best in our pool?

And I see Kristo will be overrated, too.

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People here don't realize the quality of hockey in KHL. If you want to judge a prospect from that league - look at a roster of CKA St. Petersburg or Dinamo Moskow or Salavat Uliev or a number of teams competing there. Being a regular top 9 there is no joke and it points out both his potential and development level that he is currently at as an 18 year old.

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People here don't realize the quality of hockey in KHL. If you want to judge a prospect from that league - look at a roster of CKA St. Petersburg or Dinamo Moskow or Salavat Uliev or a number of teams competing there. Being a regular top 9 there is no joke and it points out both his potential and development level that he is currently at as an 18 year old.
I understand the quality. Absolutely. I also understand that fringe NHL players and AHL-caliber talent can thrive in the KHL. Let's look at some names from the top 20 in scoring over there: Brandon Bochenski, Kyle Wilson, Nigel Dawes, Marcel Hossa, Dustin Boyd, Jonathan Cheechoo. That's a Who's Who of NHL has-beens and never-weres.

A consistent role in the top nine of a KHL team, regardless of age or any other circumstance, does not guarantee NHL success. Top production in the KHL does not guarantee NHL success! The leagues are too different to make an apples-to-apples comparison and prediction of future success. There are tons of players in the KHL that would never sniff an NHL ice surface. There are plenty of guys on KHL rosters that would be ECHL players were they to come stateside.

Buchnevich is having a good season. That he's established himself on a KHL team is certainly a good thing, there's no denying that. He has tremendous upside; that also can't be denied. I think he also has far greater "bust potential" than Skjei, Fast or Lindberg. Were we to rank guys purely on upside, I'd have Buchnevich higer up the list. I also take into account likelihood of reaching that potential, and what role a player could fill if he fails to fulfill his potential. Guys like the three I mentioned above, I see them as having a decent likelihood of fulfilling their potential, and I see possible roles for them even if they don't pan out fully. Buchnevich? I see a more slim likelihood of fulfilling his potential and no NHL role for him if he doesn't blossom into a top six offensive winger.

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