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01-10-2014, 03:29 PM
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I believe we should take a chance on Brian Lee(once he is healthy). He could hopefully be gotten on the cheap.
I'm sure he would be, he's terrible.

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01-10-2014, 03:39 PM
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I believe we should take a chance on Brian Lee(once he is healthy). He could hopefully be gotten on the cheap.
He's still in the league?

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01-10-2014, 03:45 PM
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He's hurt. Property of Tampa Bay. He has over 200 NHL games. Listed as 6'3", 220lbs. He is also a right-handed shot. UND product. 26 years old though, but many posters claim that defensemen take longer to develope.

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01-10-2014, 04:05 PM
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Lee was awesome at NoDak. But that was a long time ago.

That was some team he played on in '06. Toews. Zajac. Oshie. Stafford.

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01-10-2014, 06:03 PM
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The fixation on left handed and right handed defensemen on this board is far far greater than it is in professional hockey circles.

Of course, I could say that about a lot of things I read here.

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01-10-2014, 06:28 PM
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The fixation on left handed and right handed defensemen on this board is far far greater than it is in professional hockey circles.

Of course, I could say that about a lot of things I read here.
it wouldnt be such a big deal on here if our lefty D were actually good on the right side.

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01-10-2014, 06:28 PM
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The fixation on left handed and right handed defensemen on this board is far far greater than it is in professional hockey circles.

Of course, I could say that about a lot of things I read here.
Nah, not in this case. I think its almost the opposite.

If its so easy to play RD, why don't we move McD there or Staal?

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01-10-2014, 06:37 PM
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Nah, not in this case. I think its almost the opposite.

If its so easy to play RD, why don't we move McD there or Staal?
he didn't talk about position, only about being left-handed or right-handed. And yeah, it's getting kind of overrated. If you can get a good LH right defender you take him over the average RH right defender 10/10. F. ex. I played defender in the 2nd slovak junior league when I was younger, I'm left handed, but I was simply feeling more comfortable playing the right side. Not that I'm anywhere close to a NHL-defender, but it happens. Take Detroits whole defense as another example.


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01-10-2014, 06:48 PM
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Hypothetically, which teams could you see being interested in Girardi? ANA, COL, SJ, PHX (if we take some cap back), perhaps MIN but I'm not seeing any pieces available I'd be interested in. DET, TOR, BOS. Could TB or OTT be stupid enough to make a push for him?

Edit: after thinking a bit about it, can't see OTT doing anything, because they just gave up Silvferberg + 1st.


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01-10-2014, 07:14 PM
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The fixation on left handed and right handed defensemen on this board is far far greater than it is in professional hockey circles.

Of course, I could say that about a lot of things I read here.
I think it is a more, for lack of a better word, modern approach to building an optimized defense. There is some logic behind it for sure, but as said below if lefty D's are as effective playing playing on either side, then why not. Unfortunately the Rangers do not have that luxury.

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01-10-2014, 07:37 PM
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Hypothetically, which teams could you see being interested in Girardi? ANA, COL, SJ, PHX (if we take some cap back), perhaps MIN but I'm not seeing any pieces available I'd be interested in. DET, TOR, BOS. Could TB or OTT be stupid enough to make a push for him?

Edit: after thinking a bit about it, can't see OTT doing anything, because they just gave up Silvferberg + 1st.
Detroit, San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix, Boston, and Colorado will all be in on Girardi, which should drive up the price a bit.

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01-10-2014, 07:39 PM
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Looks like MDZ was going to the Leafs according to Dagoon.
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01-10-2014, 07:44 PM
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Or it was never discussed.

Either one.

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01-10-2014, 07:50 PM
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Or it was never discussed.

Either one.
Folks question Ricky at their own peril. I could give a whole laundry list of stuff he's broken before even the most speculative rumor sources.

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01-10-2014, 07:53 PM
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Or it was never discussed.

Either one.
You know you don't have to post anything at all...

I appreciate the info from Dagoon whether it happens or not.

Makes a ton of sense considering the Leafs trade Liles and have been playing terribly


EDIT: I like Del Zotto's game tonight.

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01-10-2014, 07:55 PM
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Ryan Reaves is off the market. signed to 4 year extension http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?i...id=DL|STL|home

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01-10-2014, 07:56 PM
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Ryan Reaves is off the market. signed to 4 year extension http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?i...id=DL|STL|home
Not that surprising. He has a ton of value to stl.

Would love to see the rangers find a guy like that in the draft.

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01-10-2014, 07:57 PM
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Not that surprising. He has a ton of value to stl.

Would love to see the rangers find a guy like that in the draft.
Rangers only trade for or sign these type of players. they cant develop that for some reason..

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01-10-2014, 07:59 PM
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Rangers only trade for or sign these type of players. they cant develop that for some reason..
Guess it's difficult to find a guy with size who can skate and hit. And occasionally fight.

The odd thing is the blues have more than one type of player. Cody beach is similar as is Veilleux


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Guess it's difficult to find a guy with size who can skate and hit. And occasionally fight.

The odd thing is the blues have more than one type of player. Cody beach is similar as is Veilleux
isnt Cody Beach related to Kyle Beach??

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isnt Cody Beach related to Kyle Beach??
Yes. Brother, far better fighter not much of a player either.

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Guess it's difficult to find a guy with size who can skate and hit. And occasionally fight.

The odd thing is the blues have more than one type of player. Cody beach is similar as is Veilleux
Mashinter is easily as good as Veilluex and Cody Beach yet was overwhelmingly hated by the loudest voices on this board. 4th line scrappers that can play a little can be found anywhere. AV doesn't seem to have any interest in dressing that type.

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Mashinter is easily as good as Veilluex and Cody Beach yet was overwhelmingly hated by the loudest voices on this board. 4th line scrappers that can play a little can be found anywhere. AV doesn't seem to have any interest in dressing that type.
No he wasent. Mash was really not very physical for his size. And he didn't even fight often.

Vellieux I would take over mash 10/10 times.


As for AV not wanting a 4th line scraper, what is Carcillo?

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01-10-2014, 09:03 PM
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The fixation on left handed and right handed defensemen on this board is far far greater than it is in professional hockey circles.

Of course, I could say that about a lot of things I read here.
The handedness shouldn't be a fixation, but there is a legitimate point that there are two distinct defensive positions that are not interchangeable.

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No he wasent. Mash was really not very physical for his size. And he didn't even fight often.

Vellieux I would take over mash 10/10 times.


As for AV not wanting a 4th line scraper, what is Carcillo?
Come on, Carcillo? Undersized agitator. Disagree on Veilluex and Beach over Mash.

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