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01-09-2014, 06:10 PM
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Drew sucks. I don't want anything to do with him. I'll puke if we give him more than a year.

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Drew sucks. I don't want anything to do with him. I'll puke if we give him more than a year.
As a stop gap, I think he'd be perfect. As a permanent fixture, I'll cry.

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MLB prospects don't develop in the same way as NHL ones. They don't need to excel in every step of their development to become all stars.

Rosario has Reyes potential. He also has huge huge deficiencies. On raw ability, Rosario is incredible.

Cecchini is defensively average. Whether he's an allstar depends on his bat. He has a bit of pop on him. I saw ceiling as high as Jeter when we drafted him. Do I think he'll become that? Absolutely not, but the ceiling is still there.
It's not all about tools, though. Matt Den Dekker has great tools but he simply strikes out all the time.

Rosario has a lot of tools, and if he figures it out he can be definitely be a great prospect. But he's also 17 (18 now, maybe?) and years away from even thinking about making the majors.

Cecch, on the other hand, lacks big tools AND production. I still think that was an awful pick. Sandy drafted him with the hopes he had a guaranteed average MLB SS...and so far I don't think it's safe to project him to even that high a standard.

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All this shortstop talk is scary. I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do when Jeter retires. I've never worried about the shortstop position in my life.

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No, I share in your pain. There are a few other Mets fans on here.

I'm a Jets fan as well.
Add the Knicks too. Just can't seem to get enough of torturing myself...

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It's not all about tools, though. Matt Den Dekker has great tools but he simply strikes out all the time.

Rosario has a lot of tools, and if he figures it out he can be definitely be a great prospect. But he's also 17 (18 now, maybe?) and years away from even thinking about making the majors.

Cecch, on the other hand, lacks big tools AND production. I still think that was an awful pick. Sandy drafted him with the hopes he had a guaranteed average MLB SS...and so far I don't think it's safe to project him to even that high a standard.
I think he drafted him to solidified the defense up the middle. Now that his defense isn't as reported, his outlook does look rather bleak.

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Drew sucks. I don't want anything to do with him. I'll puke if we give him more than a year.
I thought this too, but as the projected price gets cheaper and cheaper I warm up more and more to the signing.

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Add the Knicks too. Just can't seem to get enough of torturing myself...
I've tried to avoid them this year.

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Just saw this thread and I thought I'd chime in on something. As a baseball fan it's a complete joke and injustice that Mike Piazza isn't in the Hall of Fame. For the baseball writers to exclude Piazza over suspicion of steroids BUT no proof is just flat out wrong....

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Have to agree on Piazza. Guy was pounding the ball from day one in the league and was always well built. Not like those other clowns who blew up like balloons half way thru their career.

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Anybody who knows Lebetard will tell you, hes a friggin ****** who has his $8 an hour interns do everything for him.

He posted a ballot. Oooooooh.

Hes not taking down any establishment. The BBWAA are like the CIA. They will never stop doing what they have been doing, and they will do it without anybody really knowing.

Occupy Wall Street was more successful than his obvious self-serving attempt to do what he is best at - bringing attention towards himself rather than the story at hand.

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Anybody who knows Lebetard will tell you, hes a friggin ****** who has his $8 an hour interns do everything for him.

He posted a ballot. Oooooooh.

Hes not taking down any establishment. The BBWAA are like the CIA. They will never stop doing what they have been doing, and they will do it without anybody really knowing.

Occupy Wall Street was more successful than his obvious self-serving attempt to do what he is best at - bringing attention towards himself rather than the story at hand.
I don't like Le Batard, but I don't understand this thought process.

The BBWAA are an old boys club and everybody with a brain has laughed at their reaction to Leb giving away his ballot. The HoF has lost a ton of legitimacy and this puts another nail in the coffin, and given the fact that they have no problem with idiots who vote for nobody but Jack Morris, that's a good thing.

Same thing with Chris Kluwe in the NFL. Who cares if his advocating is self-serving? It's advocating for a good cause.

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The writers are using Steroids as an excuse to pay back the hundreds of athletes who piss on them every night. Like baseball writers are society's arbiters of what good and evil looks like.

Please. Like these writers never broke rules. Sure. They all fabricate quotes, never attribute facts and almost all use the "sources deep within the organization confirmed" BS.

they break stories because the parent companies pay the agents to reveal to them information first.

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I don't like Le Batard, but I don't understand this thought process.

The BBWAA are an old boys club and everybody with a brain has laughed at their reaction to Leb giving away his ballot. The HoF has lost a ton of legitimacy and this puts another nail in the coffin, and given the fact that they have no problem with idiots who vote for nobody but Jack Morris, that's a good thing.

Same thing with Chris Kluwe in the NFL. Who cares if his advocating is self-serving? It's advocating for a good cause.
Lebetard could care less about baseball. He covered the Marlins. Nuff said. Hes an NBA guy and always has been.

You think he would risk losing his Lebron-tugging credentials

Theres a reason for everything. Lebetard isnt a martyr who is the voice of Joe Citizen.

I dont need Dan Lebatard to expose the BBWAA. Every year, turd voters vote for guys like Shawn Green and Lloyd Moseby and Tony Phillips.

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Drew sucks. I don't want anything to do with him. I'll puke if we give him more than a year.
He was a 3.4 WAR players last season. Tied for 6th amongst shortstops. Good stop-gap plus he's the type of a guy you can always move to a contender come deadline.

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He was a 3.4 WAR players last season. Tied for 6th amongst shortstops. Good stop-gap plus he's the type of a guy you can always move to a contender come deadline.
Yep, he'd be a very good pickup.

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Alex Rodriguez suspended 162 games.

Andrew Marchand @AndrewMarchand
Now, official, 162 games for A-Rod.

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Suck it, you ****ing cheater.

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a full season out of the game, 40 years old next year, 2 hip surgeries.. That might be it for him..

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so that takes him off the $ books for the Yankees this year, corret?

Now go and get some pitchers

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so that takes him off the $ books for the Yankees this year, corret?

Now go and get some pitchers
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the 162-game call on a-rod helps yankees in their luxury-tax endeavor (and potentially tanaka)
Sabathia-Kuroda-Tanaka-Nova-Pineda, boom/bust rotation.

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Don't have a problem at all with the suspension, but wish it wasn't Selig dishing it out. **** him.

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so that takes him off the $ books for the Yankees this year, corret?

Now go and get some pitchers
Yes, it also includes the post season should we make it there.. of course most people expected this, (but some I have talked to didnt lol)

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Sabathia-Kuroda-Tanaka-Nova-Pineda, boom/bust rotation.
The last 3 could also be boom or bust for the future...

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162 games, though better than 211, is still arbitrary and found NOWHERE in the rules.

I can't stand sports commissioners.

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