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01-23-2007, 09:59 PM
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It's extra cash for the organization, which is great, but otherwise, it's an all-star game.

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The 100th anniversary of the most decorated franchise in the NHL deserves special treatment. Sorry Phoenix, you're just going to have to wait one more year.

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01-23-2007, 11:07 PM
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Are you crazy? Montreal is one of the largest cities in all of North America. It's in the top 7.
And here's a lil chart for you:

Rank Urban Pop [UN estimate] Urban area/City Country City Pop. Rank


1 34,997,269 Tokyo Japan 8,124,310 12
2 18,660,221 Mexico City Mexico 8,548,639 9
3 18,252,339 New York United States of America 8,158,957 11
4 17,857,001 São Paulo Brazil 10,136,978 6
5 17,431,305 Mumbai (Bombay) India 12,778,721 1
6 14,145,956 Delhi India 11,055,365 3
7 13,805,691 Calcutta India 4,651,322 34
8 13,047,115 Buenos Aires Argentina 2,746,761 73
9 12,759,367 Shanghai China 10,840,516 4
10 12,295,516 Jakarta Indonesia 8,407,479 10
11 12,018,068 Los Angeles United States of America 3,866,382 41
12 11,560,211 Dhaka Bangladesh 6,080,671 24
13 11,243,853 Osaka-Kobe Japan 2,588,286 85
14 11,214,126 Rio de Janeiro Brazil 6,038,581 25
15 11,078,298 Karachi Pakistan 11,507,254 2
16 10,847,827 Beijing China 7,741,274 14
17 10,834,495 Cairo Egypt 7,438,376 15
18 10,468,743 Moscow Russian Federation 10,375,688 5
19 10,352,249 Metro Manila Philippines 1,568,926 168
20 10,103,459 Lagos Nigeria 7,181,111 19
21 9,794,337 Paris France 2,103,674 115
22 9,713,757 Seoul South Korea 9,747,972 7
23 9,371,163 Istanbul Turkey 9,621,565 8
24 9,271,376 Tianjin China 5,083,657 30
25 8,567,571 Chicago United States of America 2,871,499 68
26 7,898,778 Lima Peru 7,866,160 13
27 7,619,014 London United Kingdom 7,287,555 17
28 7,289,646 Santa Fé de Bogotá Colombia 7,220,971 18
29 7,190,000 Tehran Iran 7,404,515 16
30 7,049,175 Hong Kong China, Hong Kong SAR 6,752,001 20
31 6,691,180 Chennai (Madras) India 4,368,883 37
32 6,559,521 Rhein-Ruhr North Germany 6559521 21
33 6,486,401 Bangkok Thailand 6,542,751 22
34 6,140,818 Bangalore India 5,158,019 28
35 5,989,395 Lahore Pakistan 6,192,853 23
36 5,863,694 Hyderabad India 3,619,856 48
37 5,652,919 Wuhan China 5,147,431 29
38 5,620,373 Baghdad Iraq 5,556,562 26
39 5,477,804 Santiago Chile 4,810,997 33
40 5,285,799 Saint Petersburg Russian Federation 4,178,234 38
41 5,276,958 Kinshasa Congo 4,385,264 36
42 5,260,635 Philadelphia United States of America 1,465,762 185
43 5,215,986 Miami United States of America 380,540
44 5,125,753 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 5,318,636 27
45 5,103,072 Madrid Spain 2,915,961 65
46 5,047,563 Belo Horizonte Brazil 2,344,475 99
47 4,881,757 Shenyang China 4,111,624 39
48 4,879,540 Toronto Canada 5,006,513 31
49 4,869,420 Ahmadabad India 3,796,043 42
50 4,850,717 Ho Chi Minh City Viet Nam 3,407,129 53
51 4,847,689 Chongqing China 4,865,499 32
52 4,445,561 Dallas-Fort Worth United States of America 1,228,127 246
53 4,406,380 Barcelona Spain 1,463,736 188
54 4,285,542 Khartoum Sudan 1,740,661 144
55 4,273,716 Sydney Australia 3,774,894 43
56 4,252,842 Singapore Singapore 4,408,220 35
57 4,212,389 Boston United States of America 581,046 621
58 4,143,735 Pune (Poona) India 3,058,025 60
59 4,117,892 Houston United States of America 2,049,949 120
60 4,098,329 Washington, D.C. United States of America 558,891 657
61 4,063,643 Milan Italy 1,207,823 249
62 3,998,529 Atlanta United States of America 426,338 868
63 3,977,202 Hanoi Viet Nam 1,203,379 255
64 3,950,668 Detroit United States of America 897,157 376
65 3,886,934 Guangzhou China 4,056,025 40
66 3,873,739 Yangon Myanmar 3,033,972 61
67 3,824,582 Guadalajara Mexico 1,651,417 154
68 3,793,643 Chittagong Bangladesh 2,123,709 113
69 3,764,939 Bandung Indonesia 2,189,759 107
70 3,712,066 Rhein-Main Germany 3,700,000 45
71 3,681,622 Pôrto Alegre Brazil 1,368,418 210
72 3,653,098 Alexandria Egypt 3,693,412 46
73 3,579,050 Pusan South Korea 3,719,989 44
74 3,578,225 Casablanca Morocco 3,462,648 52
75 3,577,342 Melbourne Australia 3,245,352 56
76 3,556,556 Jidda Saudi Arabia 3,630,694 47
77 3,470,916 Montréal Canada 3,509,283 51
78 3,428,420 Ankara Turkey 3,561,187 49
79 3,421,598 Monterrey Mexico 1,116,074 284
80 3,410,509 Recife Brazil 1,482,822 180
81 3,403,732 Chengdu China 2,588,577 84
82 3,336,518 Abidjan Côte d'Ivoire 2,906,769 66
83 3,327,070 Berlin Germany 3,405,250 54
84 3,301,432 Rhein-Ruhr Middle Germany 3,300,000 55
85 3,300,102 San Francisco-Oakland United States of America 750,040 453
86 3,260,584 Surat India 2,931,144 64
87 3,228,286 Pyongyang North Korea 3,144,005 57
88 3,226,084 Caracas Venezuela 1,838,939 133
89 3,217,573 Phoenix-Mesa United States of America 1,435,968 198
90 3,215,104 Athens Greece 721,477 480
91 3,203,019 Xian China 2,878,939 67
92 3,187,408 Salvador Brazil 2,621,530 79
93 3,164,003 Nagoya Japan 2,178,958 108
94 3,106,895 Fortaleza Brazil 2,324,195 101
95 3,099,146 Brasília Brazil 2,176,681 109
96 3,098,897 Medellín Colombia 3,026,831 62
97 3,084,207 Johannesburg South Africa 1,456,320 190
98 3,076,356 Rhein-Ruhr South Germany 3,100,000 59
99 3,059,643 Algiers Algeria 1,518,083 175
100 3,009,884 Changchun China 2,423,015 94

Your city population ranks you 89th and your total metro population would rank you 198th.

Our city population puts us at 77th with out metro putting us at a very big time 51.
You factor in the surrounding areas of Montreal and we leap past a few more american cities.

So I just wanted to debunk your little theory of Pheonix somehow being larger than Montreal, when I've known for some time that it wasnt.

Sorry but current census: Metro Phx (i.e Maricopa County) rates above the metro MTL area
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/04/04013.html
18.3% growth in 5 years, that's impressive growth in my opinion.
3,635,528 - Phx 3,470,916 - Mtl but thats just a pissing match.

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01-24-2007, 01:01 AM
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Man, I thought Habs fans were the personification of gratefulness and class.

Either I've been proven wrong, or you guys are Leafs, Canucks and Jets fans in disguise.

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01-24-2007, 09:59 AM
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Man, I thought Habs fans were the personification of gratefulness and class.

Either I've been proven wrong, or you guys are Leafs, Canucks and Jets fans in disguise.
This is how I compare this debate:


Two guys are in line at a department store. Guy A arrives at the cash with a Plasma TV thats like 70% off, which Guy B wanted. Guy A goes to pay for it, but realises he forgot his wallet in the car. He leaves and takes about 15 minutes. They offer the TV to Guy B and he takes it. Leaving Guy A TV-less

Now a few days later, Guy A comes over to Guy B's house to lecture him on how it was unfair. Will guy B admit that he was at fault? I think not.

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01-24-2007, 11:52 AM
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This is how I compare this debate:


Two guys are in line at a department store. Guy A arrives at the cash with a Plasma TV thats like 70% off, which Guy B wanted. Guy A goes to pay for it, but realises he forgot his wallet in the car. He leaves and takes about 15 minutes. They offer the TV to Guy B and he takes it. Leaving Guy A TV-less

Now a few days later, Guy A comes over to Guy B's house to lecture him on how it was unfair. Will guy B admit that he was at fault? I think not.
A better analogy for the lockout year and the Olympic year would be for the guy selling the TV to say to Guy A, "Sorry, we're sold out. We'll package it and ship it out to you next time we get a shipment", and then turn around and sell the next TV that ships in to Guy B, while Guy A is stuck waiting for the TV that was promised to him.

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Celebrating a team's 100th anniversary is special, without a doubt. However, it should be realized that there are 29 other teams in the league, one of which was ahead of the Habs in line.

I wouldn't be so disappointed if we weren't already entitled the game beforehand. And I certainly wouldn't be angry if the second one person voices displeasure, the entire Habs community comes out in a big Phoenix bash-fest, the same fans that are well known as the nicest and classiest in hockey. Saying nobody cares about us and that the league should bend over backwards for you guys because you're the most storied franchise in hockey? Wow, I can't help but think of NY Yankees fans.

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01-24-2007, 10:34 PM
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A better analogy for the lockout year and the Olympic year would be for the guy selling the TV to say to Guy A, "Sorry, we're sold out. We'll package it and ship it out to you next time we get a shipment", and then turn around and sell the next TV that ships in to Guy B, while Guy A is stuck waiting for the TV that was promised to him.

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Celebrating a team's 100th anniversary is special, without a doubt. However, it should be realized that there are 29 other teams in the league, one of which was ahead of the Habs in line.

I wouldn't be so disappointed if we weren't already entitled the game beforehand. And I certainly wouldn't be angry if the second one person voices displeasure, the entire Habs community comes out in a big Phoenix bash-fest, the same fans that are well known as the nicest and classiest in hockey. Saying nobody cares about us and that the league should bend over backwards for you guys because you're the most storied franchise in hockey? Wow, I can't help but think of NY Yankees fans.
Give it a rest, it's only the All-Star game and Phoenix will get it in 2011. Besides, I'm pretty sure you'll still be alive by then.

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01-24-2007, 10:43 PM
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I was watching the game on Versus and the highlight of the night was having Turco in live audio the whole 3rd period. Apparently they couldn't turn off the mic and earpiece so Turco heard all the commentary and we heard all of Turco. Hillarious stuff.

"Can't talk now, faceoff in our zone"

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Man, I thought Habs fans were the personification of gratefulness and class.

Either I've been proven wrong, or you guys are Leafs, Canucks and Jets fans in disguise.
Don't blame Canadiens fans. We started a thread to celebrate having the All-Star Game in Montreal for the 100th anniversary of the organization. It only turned into a debate about which city should be more deserving of hosting the game when Coyotes fans (of which I am one too, although my interest has been waning for a while) came over here and got upset because Montreal "stole" the game. What are we supposed to do, say, "Sorry, take it back."? That's way beyond our control. Just let us enjoy the celebration.

The NHL didn't say "We,'ll give you the game in 2009," it said, "We'll give you the game as soon as possible." Besides, as jmglenn said, by all rights, it should have been Atlanta's game this year, Phoenix's game next year (perhaps you could have even traded spots to have it for your 10th yr), Montreal 2009 and Dallas 2010. Montreal has requested all sorts of events for 2009, so it's no doubt the same applies here.

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I'm sorry this sucks, we here in Phoenix were promised this game and last year it was dropped b/c of the Olympics. Ok, I get that and Atlanta gets the make-up ok, by why skip the East tehn West format in favor of yet another game in Montreal? Why b/c it's teh 100th aniversery? Montreal has hosted this game way more times than any other.
It should also be noted that in addition to this being the 100 year anniversary of the the habs, the Molson/Bell Centre has never hosted an all star game despite being the largest venue in the league.


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It should also be noted that in addition to this being the 100 year anniversary of the nhl, the Molson/Bell Centre has never hosted an all star game despite being the largest venue in the league.
Didn't the NHL start in 1917?

The Canadiens are known to have won a Stanley Cup before the NHL was created, thus many slack-jawed Habs fans and Habs haters claim that they only have 23 cups instead of 24.

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Didn't the NHL start in 1917?

The Canadiens are known to have won a Stanley Cup before the NHL was created, thus many slack-jawed Habs fans and Habs haters claim that they only have 23 cups instead of 24.
I meant habs not nhl lol. Habs>NHL

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I meant habs not nhl lol. Habs>NHL
I figured as such.

I just wanted to show off my vast knowledge of useless hockey trivia.

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