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01-16-2014, 11:00 PM
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Never trade Jacob de la Rose.

This kid is a future captain.
They said the same about Mike Komisarek, Kyle Chipchura, and Josh Gorges.

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01-16-2014, 11:11 PM
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They said the same about Mike Komisarek, Kyle Chipchura, and Josh Gorges.
And Chris Higgins, and I see DLR as a similar player than Higgins.

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01-16-2014, 11:17 PM
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Ok ... Higgins I liked as a player though, a solid middle-six forward.

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01-16-2014, 11:18 PM
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Tyler Myers is the guy I would target. He's a tall 2 way RD. He's 23 and signed long term. The price would be hefty. But Myers solves a big missing piece in the puzzle.

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01-17-2014, 01:26 AM
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If MB is going after a big forward, is it possible he's looking at Rick Nash?

Clearly not working out in NY, which makes him moveable. I'm sure we'd send something hefty out that way, but is there anything that could work?

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01-17-2014, 02:02 AM
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If MB is going after a big forward, is it possible he's looking at Rick Nash?

Clearly not working out in NY, which makes him moveable. I'm sure we'd send something hefty out that way, but is there anything that could work?
Gomez 2.0 if so.

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01-17-2014, 04:47 AM
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If MB is going after a big forward, is it possible he's looking at Rick Nash?

Clearly not working out in NY, which makes him moveable. I'm sure we'd send something hefty out that way, but is there anything that could work?

I would hope The Habs have learned their lesson when trading for ageing players on the decline from the Rangers

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01-17-2014, 05:05 AM
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If MB is going after a big forward, is it possible he's looking at Rick Nash?

Clearly not working out in NY, which makes him moveable. I'm sure we'd send something hefty out that way, but is there anything that could work?
With his production and contract, I wouldn't toucjh Nash with a 10 foot pole....that doesn't even consider assets NYR would want.

7.8 mil cap hit for 4.5 years. Last 3 years 174 GP 74-65-139. Those are good numbers but don't justify a near 8 mil cap hit.



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Tyler Myers is the guy I would target. He's a tall 2 way RD. He's 23 and signed long term. The price would be hefty. But Myers solves a big missing piece in the puzzle.
Again, his contract is a concern. On the surface he'd be a good gamble but having 5+ years left at 5.5 mil cap hit is a huge risk for a guy who's played like a 3-3.5 muil d-man.

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01-17-2014, 05:12 AM
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Again, his contract is a concern. On the surface he'd be a good gamble but having 5+ years left at 5.5 mil cap hit is a huge risk for a guy who's played like a 3-3.5 muil d-man.

Myers is 23 years old only...

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01-17-2014, 07:15 AM
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Tyler Myers is the guy I would target. He's a tall 2 way RD. He's 23 and signed long term. The price would be hefty. But Myers solves a big missing piece in the puzzle.
Myers fills a hole on the 2nd unit pp, but he's still a ****** defensive player.

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01-17-2014, 07:43 AM
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Myers fills a hole on the 2nd unit pp, but he's still a ****** defensive player.
I disagree. His flaws are overblown.

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01-17-2014, 09:20 AM
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To Winnipeg

Brendan Gallagher
Jacob De La Rose
1st round

To Montreal

Evander Kane
Huge NO from me (to the above).
Plus...you cannot trade the McGallagher!!
De La Rose might end up being better than Eller...you have to keep that!

Maybe we're overrating E.Kane way too much here!! (incl. me!).

Let's wait for the UFA route...we add without losing anyone.
(we get to keep our players, picks, prospects).

Unless...Bergevin could pull off a Gosgolski (spelling?!) FOR Nitanen+Neal!! that's what we're all waiting for!!


Priority...right-handed dman (imo):
<Tyler Myers...but we'd have to overpay to get him, so...might be to hard to get. Might be worth TWO 1st Rnd Picks?? (since they might be in late 20s). Depends totally on what chief scout Timmins thinks... our next TWO 1st Rnd Picks VS Tyler Myers UPside/contract. If he thinks we should keep our 1st Rnd Picks, then go with Timmins' opinion.
<Dustin Byfuglien...as dman/mega power forward...again might cost too much. What a waste...every time he doesn't participate in the playoffs. Let's save him! I can see him working out with Subban and Eller during summertime, no?
<Stephane Robidas...might be cheap to acquire! (especially that he has a broken leg but is healing it!) could be good for our #4-5 depth and he's a rightie! was a playoff warrior in...2008!!


Markov-PK Subban
Gorges-Robidas??!
Emelin-Diaz


OR

We could get a reunion going for our 3rd pairing...memories of Dandouillon!!:
Bouillon-Robidas

Bouillidas/Bouilledas!!
Robillon/Robidouillon!


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01-17-2014, 09:32 AM
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Myers is 23 years old only...
I know...but his development curve has been flat for 2 years. Without the crazy contract, he's very much worth a gamble. Problem is you can't trade for him without the contract, unless Buffalo is willing to eat 40% of his cap hit(3.3 mil vs 5.5 mil).

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Myers fills a hole on the 2nd unit pp, but he's still a ****** defensive player.
I wouldn't say ******, but average. At this point he is nowhere close to justifying that kind of cap hit.

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I disagree. His flaws are overblown.
True, but his contract is horrible.

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01-17-2014, 09:35 AM
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I disagree. His flaws are overblown.
They would be if he wasn't getting paid #1 defenseman money.

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01-17-2014, 09:42 AM
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Just for fun!! (it's all fun-fantasy!! GMs don't line up to read these proposals!! or do they?!):

Yakupov
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Bourque+Collberg+Pateryn+1st Rnd pick!!

(Edm needs more dmen and a poor man's version of Hemsky...Collberg! that 1st pick could come in handy...2.5mil next year for Bourque could be enticing!).


p.s.: I'm not even a huge Yakupov fan!
(just for the heck of it...a Galchenyuk-Yakupov reunion...after the Olympics! but...I can see Yakupov going back to Russia in a few years...the risk is there! I also could be wrong!).

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01-17-2014, 09:50 AM
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They would be if he wasn't getting paid #1 defenseman money.
5.5 is more #2 and low end #1...but yeah, he's playing like a #4.

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01-17-2014, 10:04 AM
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Just for fun!! (it's all fun-fantasy!! GMs don't line up to read these proposals!! or do they?!):

Yakupov
For
Bourque+Collberg+Pateryn+1st Rnd pick!!

(Edm needs more dmen and a poor man's version of Hemsky...Collberg! that 1st pick could come in handy...2.5mil next year for Bourque could be enticing!).


p.s.: I'm not even a huge Yakupov fan!
(just for the heck of it...a Galchenyuk-Yakupov reunion...after the Olympics! but...I can see Yakupov going back to Russia in a few years...the risk is there! I also could be wrong!).
Bourque has negative value, Collberg and Pateryn very very little at the moment.

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01-17-2014, 10:18 AM
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5.5 is more #2 and low end #1...but yeah, he's playing like a #4.
he's playing like #2

see what I did there

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01-17-2014, 10:19 AM
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Bourque has negative value, Collberg and Pateryn very very little at the moment.
But...there's still time for our 1st Rnd Pick to be a top 10 overall
(I really doubt it! with Price and Subban...we're making the playoffs...it better happen!).

Btw, my proposal was semi-serious! (just for fun). And, I'm pretty sure Edm would want Tinordi AND Beaulieu + __?__ FOR Yakupov+_?_.......I'd say ''no way.'' Looking forward to Tinordi and Beaulieu, or...I want to get a better feel for the overall potential of Beaulieu's value.

Schultz, Nurse, Tinordi, Beaulieu, and their top 3 overall pick (2014) might be a stud dman... there would be way more hope for their young d-core of course adding a solid veteran dman to this young core would help a lot (ex: like when they added Pronger!).

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01-17-2014, 10:21 AM
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I bet Eberle could be had for young defensive help. Although we have a bigger pressing issue on the other wing

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01-17-2014, 10:30 AM
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They would be if he wasn't getting paid #1 defenseman money.
5.5 M a year won't be #1 money for long. With Subban's huge contract coming up, I'd argue that as soon as next year 5.5M will be what a #2-3(good 3) defenseman will get paid.

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01-17-2014, 10:32 AM
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Does Meszaros still have **** value? Diaz + Bourque (1/3 of his salary retained) for him?

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I bet Eberle could be had for young defensive help. Although we have a bigger pressing issue on the other wing
Good player, high cap hit and just the same type of size we have to much of.
I going to be honest, I haven't seen to many proposal I like. To me, most proposal sells us short.
To me, one of Gionta, Bourque, Diaz, Gorges,Briere and Bouillon must go.

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If the recent delay in call up (and subsequent call up of Nattinen and Bealieu) has proven anything, its that the prospect cupboard is pretty bare. Think about it, other than Tinordi and Beaulieu (and maybe Pateryn) there is nothing that will help us anytime soon. I have little hope for guys like Thomas, Holland, Leblanc and Dumont. They may have some skill, but again size is an issue. Other guys guys like De La Rose, Crisp, Fucale, Colberg, Bozon, Vail, Bennet,& Mcarron are at least a 2-3 years away from making any impact (if they will even make it at all) and some like Renway are once again too small. Not eveyone will turn out like Gallagher. All this to say that the that the Habs have vey little depth and people need to realize that we will basically have the same team next year unless we do something now while some guys are at their peak value. I don't expect any impact free agent signings, so the only way to improve the team is through trades. At this point, we need to start making two for one deals and if we are gonna make these type of deals, it will need to include guys like PLekanec and Markov. Only they can bring back mutiple peices in a trade. I suspect that moving these two can net us each a young NHL roster player and near ready prospect or hight draft pick. Call up Tinordi or Beaulieu to replace Markov and who knows, nothing prevents us from resigning him in the offseason. The Habs have also got to be more proactive in making more minor shrewd deals - i mean how the hell did Ottawa get Turris for Rundbald and a second? Or Minnesota getting Nedieratot for a Clutterbuck and a third??? Montreal should have been in on these.

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01-17-2014, 10:46 AM
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Bourque has negative value, Collberg and Pateryn very very little at the moment.
I wouldn't say very little, Collberg is a good prospect and Pateryn is pretty good also...however not sure it would get you Yakupov. If Edmonton trades him they'll want a stud top 2-3 d-man back, otherwise they'll be patient.

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