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01-17-2014, 08:24 PM
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He also plays more time short handed than any forward on the Rangers (tied with Boyle)
This didn't make any sense to me

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With one point so far tonight Dubinsky is on pace for 60 points, 227 hits, 40 blocked shots and a 56.5% face off percentage. No one on the Rangers is on pace for as many points, hits (by a decent margin) or has as good of a faceoff percentage and the only centers close to as good in the dot don't play a top-six role. People love to say we traded a third liner for Nash but it's really not true. He also plays more time short handed than any forward on the Rangers (tied with Boyle) and would have the fourth most power play time among forwards on the Rangees despite out scoring all of them.
He should have been named to Team USA as the fifth center over Stepan. Not only has outperformed him in some of the statistical categories, but he has been more engaged and involved whereas Stepan has been a passenger this season.

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He should have been named to Team USA as the fifth center over Stepan. Not only has outperformed him in some of the statistical categories, but he has been more engaged and involved whereas Stepan has been a passenger this season.
Agreed.. stepan seems to have no heart yet dubi looks like the heart and soul of Columbus

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01-17-2014, 08:28 PM
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This didn't make any sense to me
What doesn't make sense. He and Boyle have the same SH time per game this season. Dubi's is one second higher. No one else on the Rangers (forwards) play as much SH.

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With one point so far tonight Dubinsky is on pace for 60 points, 227 hits, 40 blocked shots and a 56.5% face off percentage. No one on the Rangers is on pace for as many points, hits (by a decent margin) or has as good of a faceoff percentage and the only centers close to as good in the dot don't play a top-six role. People love to say we traded a third liner for Nash but it's really not true. He also plays more time short handed than any forward on the Rangers (tied with Boyle) and would have the fourth most power play time among forwards on the Rangees despite out scoring all of them.
Meanwhile Gaborik has been a nightmare for CBJ.

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Marian Gaborik sat in pain on a trainer’s table in the Blue Jackets’ dressing room, a piece of bone jutting out of his left shoulder. It was late in the first period of a Dec. 21 game against the Philadelphia Flyers.

Between the sound of the doctor’s diagnosis — broken collarbone — and the muffled cheering from within Nationwide Arena, Gaborik had tears streaming down his face.

“When you see a superstar that emotional — and I saw the tears — it just guts you,” right wing Cam Atkinson said. “It shows you how much he cares and how much he has had taken away from him.”

Gaborik missed nearly six weeks because of a knee sprain, then played only four shifts before his collarbone snapped when he was pinned between two Flyers players.

The Blue Jackets and Gaborik have had no contract talks to date, and there have been no indications they are interested in signing him to an extension.
- See more at: http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/....wVGgUNg8.dpuf
I'll be the one to admit eating crow, I was absolutely devastated when the trade was announced. That being said, I don't think Dorsett, Moore or Brassard are long term pieces for the future, but mere stopgaps for this roster. I think the Rangers could've gotten better pieces in a deal during the time of that trade.

However, the trade essentially paved a roster spot for Zuccarello, who probably would still be in Russia if not for the trade. That was the real deal-breaker IMO!

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How about you look up stats over 5 seasons... oh and who got picked for team Canada
Dubinsky has only had one bad season in his entire career, actually. And always has a ton of hits, good amount of blocks and has been a very good face off man. He started out as a 40ish point rookie and trended up every season except for the one down year that resulted in him being traded, basically. He does have some injury trouble though; seems to miss 10-15 games a year.

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I wouldn't be surprised one bit if AV wanted sather to go after gaborik. For all the flack he gets he still produces more than 3/4 of our roster does injuries or not.

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Dubinsky has only had one bad season in his entire career, actually. And always has a ton of hits, good amount of blocks and has been a very good face off man. He started out as a 40ish point rookie and trended up every season except for the one down year that resulted in him being traded, basically. He does have some injury trouble though; seems to miss 10-15 games a year.
He's streaky as **** though, at least he was with the Rangers.

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He should have been named to Team USA as the fifth center over Stepan. Not only has outperformed him in some of the statistical categories, but he has been more engaged and involved whereas Stepan has been a passenger this season.
not convinced that dubi's style of play is good for international ice.

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We complain about flybys... thats all that kane does... seems to be like ovi when he doesn't have the puck

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I wouldn't be surprised one bit if AV wanted sather to go after gaborik. For all the flack he gets he still produces more than 3/4 of our roster does injuries or not.
that's the shame of the whole trade...it was done to give torts more "torts" like players...if slats knew torts wouldn't be staying, why do the trade? Just imagine if we had gabs right now instead of brass?

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He's streaky as **** though, at least he was with the Rangers.
So is Nash?

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Chicago is making the Ducks look like fools.

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So is Nash?
Yeah, this year.

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geez anaheim is just sloppy tonight, a shame.

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So is Nash?
Not really..seems ever since he's become a ranger he's gotten streaky

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that was a bad hit by perry, his skillset makes people sometimes forget that he's also a dirty player.

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not convinced that dubi's style of play is good for international ice.
Stepan may not be a good fit for international ice either, his skating is horrendous.

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Um... Nash has ALWAYS been streaky. Go to the CBJ boards and ask anyone there. If you've watched Nash over the years (I just happen to always have liked CBJ because I have a ton of family that went to OSU over the years and Nationwide is right near campus so I've been to tons of games) he's always been a streaky player who scores in bunches.

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I wouldn't be surprised one bit if AV wanted sather to go after gaborik. For all the flack he gets he still produces more than 3/4 of our roster does injuries or not.
Yeah but...injuries matter. No to Gabby, we have the Norwegian Gretzky.

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Not really..seems ever since he's become a ranger he's gotten streaky
since coming to NY, nash has not gelled with any center in the way he did with guys in CBJ. While stepan is good, he lacks the veteran experience to know what to do with the puck to set Nash up.

remember how bad Jags was until Nylander showed up?

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Stepan may not be a good fit for international ice either, his skating is horrendous.
ya I should've added that I don't think steps, this year, is much better. Not sure how heavily his WJC experienced weighed in on the decision.

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since coming to NY, nash has not gelled with any center in the way he did with guys in CBJ. While stepan is good, he lacks the veteran experience to know what to do with the puck to set Nash up.

remember how bad Jags was until Nylander showed up?
Nash never gelled with anyone in Columbus. No one ever set him up. It's not a matter or veteran experience. He is not a player who is good at playing with others. He has ALWAYS tried to do it all by himself, whether he had talent with him or not. He has always been streaky and he has never had line mates he "gelled with".

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I wouldn't be surprised one bit if AV wanted sather to go after gaborik. For all the flack he gets he still produces more than 3/4 of our roster does injuries or not.
It makes zero sense to go after him. How will the Rangers rotate between Gaborik, Nash, Callahan and Zuccarello? Nash and Gaborik haven't exactly worked out on LW.

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that's the shame of the whole trade...it was done to give torts more "torts" like players...if slats knew torts wouldn't be staying, why do the trade? Just imagine if we had gabs right now instead of brass?
In what world is Brassard a Torts guy? I'd rather have Brassard due to durability, age, and importance of position. Gaborik hasn't been that productive with Columbus.

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