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What do you think Zuccarello's salary should be?

View Poll Results: What should Zuccarello negotiate for in the 2013-2014 season.
$1,000,000-2,000,000 3 1.76%
$2,000,000-3,000,000 34 20.00%
$3,000,000-4,000,000 100 58.82%
$4,000,000-5,000,000 21 12.35%
$5,000,000-6,000,000 1 0.59%
$6,000,000-7,000,000 3 1.76%
More 8 4.71%
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01-05-2014, 01:05 PM
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I'm not ok with a 400% raise for a RFA.
Then good news! 4.5 million would only be a 300% raise. Everyone's a winner.

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I'm not ok with a 400% raise for a RFA.
Well I'm sure we're all thinking of multi year deal, and only the first would be a RFA year.

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01-05-2014, 01:49 PM
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If he ends up around 60p I dont think 4m is too much, he'll be 27 after all.

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Getting a big raise isnt just a good thing. With the Money comes expectations. 3 Mill a year is more than enough. He and Brassard should not be the best offensive players on this team. They should be 2nd liners. Same With Stepan. This team needs a solid first line. Im not sure if Zucc is that kind of player. Its hard to be a player for the Rangers, Maple Leafs or Canadians. So much pressure to begin With. Sather should think about that.

Leino couldnt handle the pressure after gettin a huge raise. Hope Sather dosent do the same mistake.

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01-05-2014, 06:43 PM
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If he keeps his play up this year, give him a blank check. $4M? Sure. There are players that are not earning what they make on this team. Kick them off and keep the players that work for it. I'm sick and damn tired of seeing Nash, Richards, and the like skate around the rink making stacks of cash and talking to the cameras like "yeah, we just weren't good enough tonight."

*****, YOU weren't good enough tonight. Go home and sleep on your pile of cash that I and a lot of working class people contributed to and forget about it just to come back to the rink without a care in the world the next day.

Pay the people that play and that care. Get rid of the dead weight. So tired of underperforming millionaires.

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01-05-2014, 06:47 PM
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Zuke should be among the first one's to be offered a new deal..

Should be based on performance..

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01-05-2014, 06:50 PM
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Zooks is a real 2nd line guy. I want him to be paid like one but not like a 1st liner. He does not need that pressure. We already have Richards and Nash making those huge $$$. 3 years 9.6 mill would be nice for both sides.

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01-14-2014, 04:08 PM
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If NYR only gives Zuccarello a contract worth 3M per year, if so - its a shame..


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3 years, 9 million, where 2 years would be UFA years.

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Lock him up ... Take him thru his prime at the least...... 5yrs @ 3.5 per yr would be awesome....17.5 total .... Lock him up Slats

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Zooks is a real 2nd line guy. I want him to be paid like one but not like a 1st liner. He does not need that pressure. We already have Richards and Nash making those huge $$$. 3 years 9.6 mill would be nice for both sides.
There's a logical disconnect here. 2nd liners are worth more than $3.3m, especially when they're a year away from UFA status. 2nd liners who are just okay are worth $4m in UFA years. The best ones are worth $6m. For Zucc, a 3 year deal what pays $3.25m in year one and $5m for years two and three would give a cap hit of $4.41m, which is fine for a 50-60 pt player.

The question is whether or not he's going to maintain that level of production next season. I don't see why not, but management could have different thoughts.

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01-18-2014, 09:12 AM
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If he actually manages to crawl up to 60 points, he'll be amongst what.. the top20 producing nhl players since game #9 ? 4 mill the first contract year he's worth but Im guessing management will go with something like 3.5 since the big money is spent on the next big UFA behemoth

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Love Zucc but I just don't see bumping him from 1.15 to 4m a year is a viable solution. He will have limited value on the open market due to his size and even though a good playmaker and invaluable to Rangers right now I just don't see a huge contract as something that he'll get.

3 year at 2.5 - 2.75 would be pretty good in my book right now.

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01-18-2014, 09:24 AM
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I really don't see why his last contract has much of an impact on his next one. We need to be thinking about Zuccarello as being in the same situation as Callahan and Dubinsky were when they signed their current deals. They were more established, but also had more RFA years left.

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01-18-2014, 10:05 AM
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Thing is, I could see many teams offering him $3-4m a year. If the Rangers don't wanna lose him, they need to pay him significantly more.

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Love Zucc but I just don't see bumping him from 1.15 to 4m a year is a viable solution. He will have limited value on the open market due to his size and even though a good playmaker and invaluable to Rangers right now I just don't see a huge contract as something that he'll get.

3 year at 2.5 - 2.75 would be pretty good in my book right now.
I can guarantee you that management is very aware that 1.15 is not representative, and as media reports surfaced seemed to be team discount because of a difficult situation with Step. Based on my personal experience in negotiations it seems very likely that Zucc received some kind of "if you perform, you will be paid" incentive when he took that deal.

2.5-2.7 seems very far off to me. Best case for that money they would only be able to cover his one rfa year.

As for his value to other teams. Trust me, they are seeing what we are seeing and every GM with a line short of a playmaker like Zucc is drooling over him now
Edit: I almost wake myself from the nightmares of a 2nd Pitt line of Neal, Malkin, and Zucc. Just imagining such a scenario makes it evident to me that his value is high around the league.

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He will have limited value on the open market due to his size .
Is this genuinely still a factor ?

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4-18 or so feels right

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I hope enough for him to stay... he's improved so much and looks solid as hell

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I can guarantee you that management is very aware that 1.15 is not representative, and as media reports surfaced seemed to be team discount because of a difficult situation with Step. Based on my personal experience in negotiations it seems very likely that Zucc received some kind of "if you perform, you will be paid" incentive when he took that deal.

2.5-2.7 seems very far off to me. Best case for that money they would only be able to cover his one rfa year.

As for his value to other teams. Trust me, they are seeing what we are seeing and every GM with a line short of a playmaker like Zucc is drooling over him now
Edit: I almost wake myself from the nightmares of a 2nd Pitt line of Neal, Malkin, and Zucc. Just imagining such a scenario makes it evident to me that his value is high around the league.
He actually played with Malkin in Russia, but for some reason they didn't click that well. That is, they played some amazing hockey, but they didn't produce all that much and Maurice split them up and rode Malkin all the way untill the end of the lock out. Then the team collapsed as he didn't really have a back up plan.

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Love Zucc but I just don't see bumping him from 1.15 to 4m a year is a viable solution. He will have limited value on the open market due to his size and even though a good playmaker and invaluable to Rangers right now I just don't see a huge contract as something that he'll get.

3 year at 2.5 - 2.75 would be pretty good in my book right now.
2.75 or 3 million.

His value on the open market is alot higher. A team like Calgary would probably offer him 4 million. And what about Buffalo? The thing is that Zucc can make other players better and teams without a franchise player would love to have a player like Zucc.

Zucc is Worth 2.75-3.25 million pr year. He shouldnt get more than that because of the pressure. He shouldnt get less, because it would be unfair.

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Then good news! 4.5 million would only be a 300% raise. Everyone's a winner.
Why not something like 6 years 16 million?

i think he would jump at that, and then you got him locked up for a small number

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Why not something like 6 years 16 million?

i think he would jump at that, and then you got him locked up for a small number
He would never sign that.

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MZA took a dirt low salary and, after doing so, went about his business like a true professional. I wouldn't insult the guy with anything under $4M per and I'd easily pay him over $5M. It's much more than his scoring: the dude is such a dynamic player and brings such versatile value to the team. Jumps into any line and seems to consistently make the players he's with better; has consistently been our best back checking forward this season and sometimes out best checking forward; must be working hard off the ice cuz he seems to continually improve; almost always shows up and plays hard, even when a lot of guys were complete no shows, which speaks volumes. Over and beyond stats, this guy is just such a dynamic and important forward for this team, and has the hockey IQ, skill and will that enables him to be one of the team's most consistent. I value what this guy brings to the team very highly. I'd pay him right, make him very happy, and give him a salary that inspires him to want to play even harder and get even better, because he still seems to have room to grow and every indication is that he will.

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2.75 or 3 million.

His value on the open market is alot higher. A team like Calgary would probably offer him 4 million. And what about Buffalo? The thing is that Zucc can make other players better and teams without a franchise player would love to have a player like Zucc.

Zucc is Worth 2.75-3.25 million pr year. He shouldnt get more than that because of the pressure. He shouldnt get less, because it would be unfair.
Ok... if you mean Zucca is only worth 2.75-3.25 million pr year.. I hope Zucca goes to another club, because he deserves better. A player as Zucca and his skills is worth 5M per year. If NYR pay him what you will give him - its a scandal.

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