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01-23-2014, 12:52 AM
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Who is the worst to win the Hart Trophy?

Very self explanatory. Who is the worst skater or goalie to win the Hart Trophy?

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01-23-2014, 12:55 AM
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Crosby, he's a product of a good team

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In all seriousness, maybe Jose Theodore?

It's hard to judge anyone before 1950. Totally different game.

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Probably Corey Perry.

Edit: But then again, I'm fairly young. I didn't bother looking at the players before Gretzky.

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In all seriousness, maybe Jose Theodore?

It's hard to judge anyone before 1950. Totally different game.
No. Theodore had great stats on a terrible Montreal team.

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01-23-2014, 01:03 AM
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Joe Thornton. Jagr WAS the Rangers, and frankly I don't see how a guy playing only 2/3 of a season with a team can get the Hart.

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Jose Theodore from a career standpoint. Guy played lights out then steadily declined. Basically a better Jim Carey.

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Joe Thornton. Jagr WAS the Rangers, and frankly I don't see how a guy playing only 2/3 of a season with a team can get the Hart.
125 points and 96 assist Hart Trophy winner Joe "The Rooster" Thornton is the worst player to win the Hart Trophy?

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125 points and 96 assist Hart Trophy winner Joe "The Rooster" Thornton is the worst player to win the Hart Trophy?
Okay, definitely not the worst. Point taken. I think I interpreted the question who did not deserve it.

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I just remembered.

The answer is undeniably Al Rollins.

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125 points and 96 assist Hart Trophy winner Joe "The Rooster" Thornton is the worst player to win the Hart Trophy?
Is the op asking which player had the worst Hart season or which player has the worst career that won a Hart trophy at some point? I'm pretty sure it's #2, but I'm not sure....

In recent years it has to be Perry IMO (whether it's the 1st or 2nd option), he played on the top line in the league and had a good ~15 games that got him the trophy. I also find him over-rated... Yes he's a great player, but I never think of Perry and Hart together and I forget all the time that he won the Hart that year.

OV's last Hart win was pretty unimpressive imo, but he's had a dominant career and, again, I think the OP meant the 2nd option.

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Jagr WAS the Rangers
...other than Nylander, Straka, and Rucinsky going PPG, Roszival and Malik placing top5 in +/-, Prucha scoring 30 goals, and Lundqvist having the 3rd best save% in the season.

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If we REALLY wanna get technically, I suppose being a player on the worst team in league while not being a particular notable otherwise would make Tom Anderson the winner. Then again, I can't judge how good he was for obvious reasons, i.e. never saw him play.

Considering Jose Theodore is mostly known for that one season, would give him the nod here amongst those I've seen. He was amazing that season, but it was that one season.

Edit: Al Rollins is another.

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OP should clarify, worst player for career or most mediocre season to win hart. I assume it's career and Theodore stands out

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Okay, definitely not the worst. Point taken. I think I interpreted the question who did not deserve it.

A guy who put up 125 points (96 assists) and turned Cheechoo into a 50 goal scorer didn't deserve it? Did he need to his a 100 assists or a different milestone like 150 points for him to be deserving?

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Probably Corey Perry.

Edit: But then again, I'm fairly young. I didn't bother looking at the players before Gretzky.
Perry was the only to player to score 50 that year and led the Ducks to the playoffs scoring 19 times in the final 16, leading Anaheim from 11th to 4th.

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Perry was the only to player to score 50 that year and led the Ducks to the playoffs scoring 19 times in the final 16, leading Anaheim from 11th to 4th.
I didn't say he had a bad season. I'm saying that compared to other players, he's probably the worst to win the trophy. It's him or Theodore IMO.

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if OP means who was the worst player career-wise to win the hart then it's definitely theodore

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I didn't say he had a bad season. I'm saying that compared to other players, he's probably the worst to win the trophy. It's him or Theodore IMO.
I know.

I'd have to say Henrik Sedin.

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As people have said, if we're looking at career, then Theodore sticks out among recent winners. Perry as well, and Sedin somewhat too. For seasons, Perry and Ovechkin last year were two of the weaker ones, followed by Sedin and St. Louis probably. Messier in '92 a bit as well. Of course all Hart seasons are still generally great.

Going back further, Al Rollins, both in season and career is probably the worst based on history knowledge. Apparently he largely got it based on his previous season. Ted Kennedy had a great career, but his win in '55 was apparently a bit of a career achievement award (at 29!). The voters seemed to follow the idea of value to their team more before the 60s so there's a few guys who fit the bill: Tom Anderson, Buddy O'Connors. A lot of guys had short peaks then as well, so not a ton of career value for some.

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Do you mean worst Hart season? or worst player to win it?

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I know.

I'd have to say Henrik Sedin.
Art Ross Trophy, a 4th place finish in points, and three consecutive years leading the league in assists. I'd say that's easily a better resume than someone like Perry or Theodore.

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Jose Theodore from a career standpoint. Guy played lights out then steadily declined. Basically a better Jim Carey.
This is my choice, and also pretty close to my reasoning as well. Theodore was the only Hart winner in recent memory who wasn't "elite" for any other seasons other than the year he won. The other Hart winners were arguably top end players for multiple years before and after winning the Hart.

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