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01-23-2014, 03:10 AM
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Corey Perry immediately came to mind when I entered this thread.

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01-23-2014, 03:18 AM
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wayne, all of them. he lacked intangibles and was weak defensively. shoulda gone to lanny or wendel or dougie

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01-23-2014, 03:21 AM
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ovechkin in 2013, 23 goals in 23 last games in a shortened season to win. perry did better

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01-23-2014, 03:22 AM
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Id prob have to go with perry or sedin... i dont no much bout sedins year that season. As for perry there wasnt really to much competition he was def the most deserving that season but just based off stats hes prob the obvious choice.

that being said he was incredibly clutch that year and basically carried the ducks that season, hes been one of leagues top goal scorers sense hes joined the nhl, idk how someone could use the words overated with him.

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01-23-2014, 03:22 AM
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01-23-2014, 03:30 AM
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01-23-2014, 03:50 AM
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01-23-2014, 03:57 AM
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All time? Tommy Anderson, Buddy O'Connor, or All Rollins. Recently? Corey Perry

Edit: forgot Theodore... That how bad he is lol

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01-23-2014, 04:38 AM
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...other than Nylander, Straka, and Rucinsky going PPG, Roszival and Malik placing top5 in +/-, Prucha scoring 30 goals, and Lundqvist having the 3rd best save% in the season.
Every one of those things (besides Hank's Save %) was affected by Jagr in some way..

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01-23-2014, 04:48 AM
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St Louis, if he deserved it he would have been an obvious pick for the 2006 Olympic Team less than two years later.

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01-23-2014, 05:26 AM
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In all seriousness, maybe Jose Theodore?
He obviously is one of the players who had worse career, but his Hart was well earned during season.

If we go by season, Corey Perry was one of the weaker seasons and he hit the perfect storm in the end of the season.

Surprisingly, I think Pronger is weaker one, too. Bure was somehow robbed. It was like, meh, defensman didn´t win it in 20 years so give it to him.

All others down to O6 seasons is well deserved IMO.

So it´s between Corey Perry and Pronger if winning season counts or between Corey Perry and Theodore if career counts.

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01-23-2014, 05:31 AM
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If we REALLY wanna get technically, I suppose being a player on the worst team in league while not being a particular notable otherwise would make Tom Anderson the winner. Then again, I can't judge how good he was for obvious reasons, i.e. never saw him play.

Considering Jose Theodore is mostly known for that one season, would give him the nod here amongst those I've seen. He was amazing that season, but it was that one season.

Edit: Al Rollins is another.
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01-23-2014, 05:37 AM
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Jose Theodore, hands down. One lights out season and then a whole lot of mediocrity to follow.

(Of single seasons, the least deserved Hart Trophy if you will, my pick would be Henrik Sedin. He practically got it on the Art Ross alone; Sid would have been a far superior choice for chipping in all of a sudden 51 goals for the injury-riddled Penguins and winning the team scoring race by 32 points.)

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01-23-2014, 05:49 AM
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Jose Theodore, hands down. One lights out season and then a whole lot of mediocrity to follow.

(Of single seasons, the least deserved Hart Trophy if you will, my pick would be Henrik Sedin. He practically got it on the Art Ross alone; Sid would have been a far superior choice for chipping in all of a sudden 51 goals for the injury-riddled Penguins and winning the team scoring race by 32 points.)
Henrik really put the Canucks on his back that year. Daniel broke his leg and was out for 20+ games and Henrik just went on an absolute tear. He was also the team leader by around 30 pts so pretty comparable.

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01-23-2014, 06:01 AM
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People are actually saying Perry and Thornton in this thread? Slap your own heads!

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Joe Thornton. Jagr WAS the Rangers, and frankly I don't see how a guy playing only 2/3 of a season with a team can get the Hart.
Thornton proved in 2/3 of a season what it took the whole season for Jagr to prove.

The Thornton trade was the story of the year and to this day there has not been a bigger trade. Thornton STILL defines the Sharks, while Jagr hasn't been a Ranger since the last decade.

We now have the benefit of hindsight and we can see the right choice was made.

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01-23-2014, 06:04 AM
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A guy who put up 125 points (96 assists) and turned Cheechoo into a 50 goal scorer didn't deserve it? Did he need to his a 100 assists or a different milestone like 150 points for him to be deserving?
Unfortunately, a lot of people think only one player can deserve an award that goes to one person. If the winner isn't their pick, the winner doesn't deserve it in their mind. The reality is that outside of exceptional cases, multiple players can be and are deserving in every year. It's just a lot easier to focus only on the one guy who won or the one guy who got snubbed in order to remember it as a tight narrative instead of the sloppy mess that is reality.

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01-23-2014, 06:48 AM
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Jose Theodore, hands down. One lights out season and then a whole lot of mediocrity to follow.

(Of single seasons, the least deserved Hart Trophy if you will, my pick would be Henrik Sedin. He practically got it on the Art Ross alone; Sid would have been a far superior choice for chipping in all of a sudden 51 goals for the injury-riddled Penguins and winning the team scoring race by 32 points.)
No way Crosby deserved it more than Ovechkin.

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01-23-2014, 07:35 AM
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Id prob have to go with perry or sedin... i dont no much bout sedins year that season. As for perry there wasnt really to much competition he was def the most deserving that season but just based off stats hes prob the obvious choice.

that being said he was incredibly clutch that year and basically carried the ducks that season, hes been one of leagues top goal scorers sense hes joined the nhl, idk how someone could use the words overated with him.
well lets see
112 points, 1st in the league
27 point gap to #2 in points on his team.
83 assists
21 point gap to the #2 guy in the western conference
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83 even strength points, which was the most in several years.

followed it up by finishing 4th and 10th in points and leading the league in assists both seasons while his team won the presidents trophy both years.

Yes, Henrik Sedin is certainly the worst.

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01-23-2014, 07:42 AM
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Jose Theodore, hands down. One lights out season and then a whole lot of mediocrity to follow.

(Of single seasons, the least deserved Hart Trophy if you will, my pick would be Henrik Sedin. He practically got it on the Art Ross alone; Sid would have been a far superior choice for chipping in all of a sudden 51 goals for the injury-riddled Penguins and winning the team scoring race by 32 points.)
To be fair Theodore had a few elite seasons around his Hart one but yea he's by far the worst recently.

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01-23-2014, 07:50 AM
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Every Hart winner has made the Hall of Fame but that streak will end with Theodore, so there's your answer.

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01-23-2014, 10:02 AM
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St Louis, if he deserved it he would have been an obvious pick for the 2006 Olympic Team less than two years later.
He played in the 2004 World Cup and the 2006 olympics.

In any case I dont get what International play has to do with a Hart trophy...


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Every Hart winner has made the Hall of Fame but that streak will end with Theodore, so there's your answer.
This. Theodore is definitely the worst career player to have won the Hart, at least in the last few decades. If I recall correctly there was something of a voting controversy that year that led to Iginla getting jobbed out of the award. If he had won instead of Theodore, the recent list of Hart winners would look a lot more sensible.

Lindros is another Hart winner who may not make the HOF, but a lot of people think he'll get in eventually, and even if he doesn't I can't imagine there's a person on Earth who wouldn't take him above Theodore.

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