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2014 — Slovakia Roster Discussion (Released, post #1)

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01-16-2014, 12:18 PM
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According to interview with Mr. Vujtek (NT coach) in Slovak press, Gáborik's treatment is going very well. Everything depends on appointment with doctor at 24/1/2014. If results will be ok, he will be available to his NHL team three weeks before Sochi!

He also said that if Gaborik will not be completely fit he will not play in Sochi. He don't want to risk.

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01-16-2014, 03:06 PM
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Glad to hear the good news Hopefully he will be back in form till the olympics. Maybe he could play with Tatar and Handzuš on the same line.

I still think if Jurčo does well after his call up, he could crack the top-6 on the Slovakian team.

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01-19-2014, 12:30 AM
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Andrej Meszaros in his last 6 games is 3+6/+4. For a Dman that gets little PT, that is flippin' amazing. I always liked Andrej when healthy, never understood the many haters. Paired with Chara, Andrej is amazing.

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01-19-2014, 10:12 AM
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It looks like there's a chance both Gabby and Vis might make it back before the Olympics. Can you guys say perfect storm?

If that were the case, it would seriously bolster our chances as a medal contender, Marincin wouldn't have to play and our D would be rock solid.

I have to say that if Visnovsky comes back and is his usual self, this could be the greatest D we have ever iced (considering players' forms as well)-

Chara - The captain, is a workhorse for Boston this seasons again and is going to be for Slovakia as well

Meszaros - I think they put something in his water, ever since he got named to the Olympic team (and I think it was far from a sure thing, taking in mind his previous play) he's been killing it in Philly. He's over PPG in his last 10 games I believe.

Sekera - is playing his best season yet, Carolina seems like a great fit, plays big minutes on his NHL team

Visnovsky - the very offensive minded defenseman, hopefully he comes back

Marincin - while I love the fact that he's getting plenty of icetime in Edmonton, he'd probably still be in the AHL on most other teams. Rookie prone to making rookie mistakes, most likely to see very little time in Sochi.

Plus Dominik Granak (always liked him), Ivan Baranka (him too) and Sersen (he's okay I guess). Don't follow the KHL too closely, so hopefully they're all best players on their respective teams.

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01-19-2014, 11:36 AM
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Yeah, I think since january nominations everything works for us, except doubts about Satan and media circus.

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01-20-2014, 03:44 AM
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It looks like there's a chance both Gabby and Vis might make it back before the Olympics. Can you guys say perfect storm?

If that were the case, it would seriously bolster our chances as a medal contender ...
Im not so optimistic. Both of them will be already back from longtime injury. Both of them will have in mind, that "watch out, you had this freaking injury. better not play so hard...".

And look to the other teams. Do they have worse team? No, i don't think so. If we pass 1/4 finals, that will be great. If not, ok, it will be not so bad.

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01-20-2014, 04:23 AM
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I think it´s not the case with Visnovsky. In fact he has no chance to win anything, but Olympic games. Manhattan and Stanley Cup are different universes and I don´t think he care about winning the Slovak league or so. He probably ends his career after the contract is done.

And Gabby is used to be injured

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01-20-2014, 04:59 AM
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Marcel Hossa got injured yesterday and will probably miss the Olympics.

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01-20-2014, 07:56 AM
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Shouldn't be that bad:
http://www.hokej.sk/liga_rus/clanok1...OH_nepride.htm

He will be out maybe two weeks..

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01-22-2014, 05:39 PM
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It looks like there's a chance both Gabby and Vis might make it back before the Olympics. Can you guys say perfect storm?
So I seem to have overheard that even if Vis will be ready, the Islanders won't allow him to go. Quite unfortunate if true.

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01-22-2014, 07:07 PM
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Well, Slovakia seems to have enough offensive D-man + maybe better not to gamble on a player that, come the Olympics, will barely have played competitive hockey. As for the replacements, would it maybe be a smart move do pick Kudroc, if nothing else because he'd be the only lefty on the blue line?

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01-23-2014, 03:53 AM
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Well, Slovakia seems to have enough offensive D-man + maybe better not to gamble on a player that, come the Olympics, will barely have played competitive hockey. As for the replacements, would it maybe be a smart move do pick Kudroc, if nothing else because he'd be the only lefty on the blue line?
Well, here are list of defenders from first nomination which can replace Vis..

- Ján Brejčák (HC Slovan Bratislava, KHL)
- Michal Čajkovský (Hershey Bears, USA/AHL)
- Marek Ďaloga (HC Pardubice, ČR)
- Milan Jurčina (TPS Turku, Fín.)
- Kristián Kudroč (Sibir Novosibirsk, Rus./KHL)
- Branislav Mezei (Víťaz Podolsk, RUS/KHL)
- Vladimír Mihálik (HC Slovan Bratislava, KHL)
- Juraj Mikuš (HC Lev Praha, ČR/KHL)
- Tomáš Starosta (Jugra Chanty-Mansijsk, Rus./KHL)
- Ivan Švarný (Medveščak Záhreb, Chorv./KHL)
- René Vydarený (HK Mountfield Hradec Hrálové, ČR)

In my opinion from list above it will be Kudroc, Mezei, Jurcina or Starosta..

Kudroč
+ he is experienced
+ he has size and he is strong
+ useful at powerplays (solid shoot)
? he is quite offensive minded (I don't know whatever it is plus or minus)
- he gets too many stupid penalties
- his offensive attempts causing too many turnovers

Mezei
+ he is experienced
+ he has size and he is strong
+ physical style of playing
+ solid skating and passing
+ defensive minded
- he gets too many stupid penalties

Jurčina
+ he is experienced
+ he has size
+ useful at powerplays (solid shoot)
- he gets too many stupid penalties
- his skating is terrible
- he don't use his size (he use his stick more then his body!)
- he played only 16 games this season

Starosta
+ he is experienced
+ not as big as Jurcina, Mezei or Kudroc but he can hit
+ not so much penalties!
+ solid allround back useful at variable situations
- size

I prefer Mezei or Starosta..


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01-23-2014, 07:17 AM
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I prefer Mezei or Starosta..
It will be Starosta for sure.

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01-23-2014, 09:10 AM
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It will be Starosta for sure.
Not really, this is all about coach expectations.. We have solid offensive minded defs (Sekera, Sersen, Meszaros). We have enough defs for powerplay (Chara, Sekera, Meszaros, Granak, even Sersen is usable in pwp).

What we really need is more defensive minded player who can also be used to kill penalties and this is why I think Mezei is serious contender..

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01-23-2014, 10:11 AM
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When talking about defense, who, guys, do you think has the better D. Russia or Slovakia?

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01-23-2014, 12:18 PM
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When talking about defense, who, guys, do you think has the better D. Russia or Slovakia?
This is quite difficult to compare.. but ok Russian defs are all sized around 190cm and 90 - 100 kg (except Voinov and Markov). They know how play physically and how to hit a player. They are more disciplined.

Only one problem is that most of them are creative and they try to support their offense so good skaters like Gaborik or Bartovic can cause them problems.

In overall I think our defence is more balanced and they can work better together, but we need to by disciplined

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01-24-2014, 12:38 PM
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Visnovsky is back skating in the Isles practices with full-contact.
Gaborik started skating yesterday for the first time, felt good.

Looks good for Slovakia.

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01-24-2014, 02:02 PM
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Granak will miss Oly. :/

http://www.sports.ru/hockey/156172517.html

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01-24-2014, 02:44 PM
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Having watched almost every Medvescak game this season, I would suggest that Svarny replaces Granak. He has been the best (two-way) defencemen on the team. If two new defenders are needed (to replace Granak and Visnovsky) then one of them should be Svarny.

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01-24-2014, 04:41 PM
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Visnovsky is back skating in the Isles practices with full-contact.
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If two new defenders are needed (to replace Granak and Visnovsky)
I heard that he talked to NYI GM and he confirmed that if he will be fully fit he can play in Sochi.

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Having watched almost every Medvescak game this season, I would suggest that Svarny replaces Granak
That's not very likely, with all respect to him..

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01-25-2014, 07:02 AM
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Jurčina
+ he is experienced
+ he has size
+ useful at powerplays (solid shoot)
- he gets too many stupid penalties
- his skating is terrible
- he don't use his size (he use his stick more then his body!)
- he played only 16 games this season
Very big - is, that he refused to play for Slovakia on the last tournament. Vujtek after that mentioned indirectly, he doesnt count anymore with him.

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01-25-2014, 10:40 AM
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Very big - is, that he refused to play for Slovakia on the last tournament. Vujtek after that mentioned indirectly, he doesnt count anymore with him.
This does not make much sense to me..

1. He refused to play because his contract was ending therefore it is quite understandable for me. Everyone needs to be clear with his future, in order to concentrate on other things.
2. Why he was in first nomination then?
3. We do not have as many players as Canada or Russia so every player with NHL experiences needs to be considered. It's matter of principle..

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NHL experience or not - he stinks. And even more so on the big ice. I would take Kudroc, Starosta or Podhradsky over him over him without even blinking. The guy is a definition of a pylon.

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NHL experience or not - he stinks. And even more so on the big ice. I would take Kudroc, Starosta or Podhradsky over him over him without even blinking. The guy is a definition of a pylon.
sad but true...

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Granak is a big loss.

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