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12-20-2013, 07:31 AM
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There were better options out there, made no sense to sign him, and even less to do it before the free agency market opened.
I agree there were better options, but the best ones all got ridiculous contracts except Horton who was going in for major shoulder surgery and missing half the season, making it a big risk. Would you rather have Clarkson or Clowe's contract?

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I just don't know how you go into the draft, select guys like McCarron, Crisp and De La Rose.. specifically address the need to get bigger and then go out and sign Briere.

We all knew the Briere signing was redundant for this team and it only made sense as an upgrade on DD. It didn't happen. So Briere sits, while arguably being the better center than DD, while DD continues to get preferential treatment over every other player in the organization.
What has Briere shown the last 2 years(11-12 and 12-13) to suggest he would be a better option than Desharnais?

Again, as far as DD getting preferential treatment, that's been proven wrong many times, not sure where you get that.

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12-20-2013, 08:32 AM
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I agree there were better options, but the best ones all got ridiculous contracts except Horton who was going in for major shoulder surgery and missing half the season, making it a big risk. Would you rather have Clarkson or Clowe's contract?



What has Briere shown the last 2 years(11-12 and 12-13) to suggest he would be a better option than Desharnais?

Again, as far as DD getting preferential treatment, that's been proven wrong many times, not sure where you get that.
I'm not arguing with you anymore about Desharnais. You for some reason think he's an asset to this team. I think he is one of the worst players on the team and that he unjustly gets preferential treatment. We will leave it at that.

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12-20-2013, 08:53 AM
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What has Briere shown the last 2 years(11-12 and 12-13) to suggest he would be a better option than Desharnais?

Again, as far as DD getting preferential treatment, that's been proven wrong many times, not sure where you get that.
Can you explain how you "prove" something like that?

Pretty sure a lot of Habs watchers see what I see: MT basically building his lines around DD, and not giving a flying **** about DB.

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Back-to-back losses to the Leafs and Pens...

Just throwing this old thread back in management's faces.

Torch guy seems pretty done.

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I hope Molson is bound up in the fetal position, crying, every bad game his little golden boy stinks it up. Poor Geoff, opens up the wallet for his favourite little Hobbit and it backfired... just like most of the fans knew it would.

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01-23-2014, 02:23 AM
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Can you explain how you "prove" something like that?

Pretty sure a lot of Habs watchers see what I see: MT basically building his lines around DD, and not giving a flying **** about DB.
A lot of Habs watchers believe what their bias wants them to believe.

Eller didn't jmagically light it up with Plekanec despiste claims that his struggles are due to linemates.

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A lot of Habs watchers believe what their bias wants them to believe.

Eller didn't jmagically light it up with Plekanec despiste claims that his struggles are due to linemates.
Eller is not a winger. Eller on wing has never worked at any point in his career.

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A lot of Habs watchers believe what their bias wants them to believe.

Eller didn't jmagically light it up with Plekanec despiste claims that his struggles are due to linemates.
Okay that's what I thought. The "DD getting preferential treatment, that's been proven wrong many times" can't in fact be proven right or wrong, and is your subjective opinion, or what your bias wants you to believe.

Briere had some good stuff vs the Pens. Not that I can prove it but he outplayed DD IMHO.

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01-23-2014, 10:01 AM
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Briere looked better last night and has in general been picking it up as of late.

I'm in the camp that didn't understand this signing but hoped to be proven wrong. I've seen flashes but the real test will be this year's playoffs, if he makes it that far.

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01-23-2014, 10:21 AM
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Briere looked better last night and has in general been picking it up as of late.

I'm in the camp that didn't understand this signing but hoped to be proven wrong. I've seen flashes but the real test will be this year's playoffs, if he makes it that far.
That's a big paycheck for a team 'hoping' to make the playoffs.

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01-23-2014, 11:11 AM
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Molson might as well have piled 8 million bucks into 52 piles and burned it every couple of weeks. Briere is useless....

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01-23-2014, 11:35 AM
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Briere looked better last night and has in general been picking it up as of late.

I'm in the camp that didn't understand this signing but hoped to be proven wrong. I've seen flashes but the real test will be this year's playoffs, if he makes it that far.
Do people really think he just hits a button when he reaches the playoffs?

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01-23-2014, 11:37 AM
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Briere looked better last night and has in general been picking it up as of late.

I'm in the camp that didn't understand this signing but hoped to be proven wrong. I've seen flashes but the real test will be this year's playoffs, if he makes it that far.
On a team like the Habs, they have to keep playing him at center. It means Eller has to play on a wing where he is less effective.

Bad signing overall. This team needed a big top-two line winger, not Briere.

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01-23-2014, 12:01 PM
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Why on earth did they sign Briere in the first place? Past his prime, slower and .....SMALL. This has been such an issue in the last few years with all the hobbits on the team. Did Bergevin forget how old Briere was? Did he somehow think the NHL was switching to Olympic sized ice surface this year? Seriously what the hell? No matter what you think of LeCavilier and his future prospects, at least if we had signed him he wouldnt get pushed around like Briere has this season. Really dumb decision by Bergevin!

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01-23-2014, 12:04 PM
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He was the next best French guy available, and that's all Bergevin wanted.

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01-23-2014, 12:54 PM
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Do people really think he just hits a button when he reaches the playoffs?
Some players simply do have a knack for flicking the metaphorical switch. Briere is definitely one of them. He is very elusive and intelligent with the puck and once the games start being tighter checked and more intense, those traits seem to separate him from most. IMO.

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01-23-2014, 02:11 PM
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Some players simply do have a knack for flicking the metaphorical switch. Briere is definitely one of them. He is very elusive and intelligent with the puck and once the games start being tighter checked and more intense, those traits seem to separate him from most. IMO.
Playoff performance and especially "different" production is a statistical anomaly not a real thing.

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01-23-2014, 02:59 PM
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Playoff performance and especially "different" production is a statistical anomaly not a real thing.
Good post.

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Playoff performance and especially "different" production is a statistical anomaly not a real thing.
Especially in Briere's case, who happened to make the playoffs in his best years and miss them in his worst, which is why his playoff PPG is better than his regular season PPGs.

Understand, Briere was a really good scorer in the playoffs. He's got a lot of career playoff games and is at over a PPG pace. But there's no reason to believe he actually gets better in the playoffs, so the Briere we see now is very likely to be the same guy in the postseason.

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Good post.
that's not true, have you checked bryan Bickell's numbers? LOL

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