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01-26-2014, 07:20 PM
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Noreau jumped off the bench to join a fight in Greenville's game today, so he'll likely be gone for 10 games.
Can he circumvent a suspension by moving up or down a level? Or would the suspension just be put on hold until he returns to the ECHL? I suspect the latter, but I'm not sure.

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Tambellini had an assist in his teams 3-2OT loss today. 11 pts in 8 games so far.

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Duclair got 1 assist today on the EN goal in a 3-0 win. He could have scored but made a pass to his teammate.

Maybe another star of the week nomination. 5 goals and 3 assists in 3 games.
Great to see that he's still scoring regularly. Some of the knocks on him coming into the draft were that he lacked consistency/intensity from shift-to-shift and game-to-game and that he needed a fair bit of work on defensive game. To those that watch him, are there signs of these being improved on throughout the season?

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01-27-2014, 05:43 AM
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I've seen him a handful of games this year, and yes. He's almost always engaged and looks dangerous every shift.

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01-27-2014, 07:17 AM
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Can he circumvent a suspension by moving up or down a level? Or would the suspension just be put on hold until he returns to the ECHL? I suspect the latter, but I'm not sure.
Usually different leagues honor other league's suspensions. I imagine it will be the case here as well. It will hurt his immediate development but likely he's in the ECHL for the rest of they year anyway and it's not like he's injured and has to come back from that. He'll be able to work out and stay in shape.

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01-27-2014, 07:22 AM
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I figured as much. I remember when Patrice Cormier picked up that big suspension in juniors, there was talk of him playing in some non-AHL professional league, but it was understood that couldn't happen as the leagues would all honor the CHL's suspension.

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01-27-2014, 07:26 AM
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All the stats in the first post are up to date.

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Tambellini had an assist in his teams 3-2OT loss today. 11 pts in 8 games so far.
I know people will bash him for leaving school, but if he keeps this up, that's a good move for him. He needs to play, and play a lot.

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01-27-2014, 07:36 AM
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Donnay is quietly having a much better season than last year.

Last year:
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This year:
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Donnay is quietly having a much better season than last year.

Last year:
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I still have serious questions about his ability to play in the NHL, but it's hard to ignore the great season he's having.

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01-27-2014, 08:23 AM
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I know people will bash him for leaving school, but if he keeps this up, that's a good move for him. He needs to play, and play a lot.
If he develops physically it's a good move for him. He's 19, so you'd expect him to be posting good numbers in the WHL based on his skill.

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01-27-2014, 10:16 AM
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I know people will bash him for leaving school, but if he keeps this up, that's a good move for him. He needs to play, and play a lot.

The Rangers seem to prefer that their players take the junior route over college. Personally, I think so as well. More games played in juniors, more ice time at a younger age too. Then instead of finally being given responsibility as an upper classman, the 20 year old moves on to pro hockey.

The only advantage to college is the actual education and degree the kid is getting in case he fails to make the NHL.

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The Rangers seem to prefer that their players take the junior route over college. Personally, I think so as well. More games played in juniors, more ice time at a younger age too. Then instead of finally being given responsibility as an upper classman, the 20 year old moves on to pro hockey.

The only advantage to college is the actual education and degree the kid is getting in case he fails to make the NHL.
plus the time to hit the gym and get stronger...i feel like the CHL route makes it a little tougher to get bigger and stronger.

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01-27-2014, 10:34 AM
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There is no single route that is better. As cheesy as it sounds, whether college or CHL is better depends on the player, and we won't be able to make that conclusion until they've turned pro.

We'll just have to wait and see which is better for Tambellini. Maybe he relies on his skills in CHL and never gains any physicality, which he may have in college where the players are older and more physical. Or maybe the more games he is able to play in CHL allows him to put everything together. It's a worthless debate at this point which one is better for him.

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plus the time to hit the gym and get stronger...i feel like the CHL route makes it a little tougher to get bigger and stronger.
I think this aspect always gets overrated.

College players definitely have more academic related work to do. I'm sure there's a much bigger social scene compared to juniors as well, which can act as a distraction.

It's not like he's got 2 games on the weekend and hits the gym during the week for 5 hours a day.

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I think this aspect always gets overrated.

College players definitely have more academic related work to do. I'm sure there's a much bigger social scene compared to juniors as well, which can act as a distraction.

It's not like he's got 2 games on the weekend and hits the gym during the week for 5 hours a day.
I really disagree. The biggest driver is the numer of games played. It completely wears your body down playing that often, and most players will end the season lighter than when they started.

A friend of mine lost 15 lbs of mostly muscle his first full season in the AHL out of college because of the grind of playing that many more games. Less time to recover and almost no time to put on muscle. In the NCAA there is plenty of time to maintain your build in season, and a longer offseason allows players to rebuild + come back stronger.

Academics is more time sure, but NCAA players live in the gym. Junior hockey social scene is comparable. Gym time is a huge factor in my opinion.

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BOUCHERVILLE, Monday January 27, 2014 - Anthony Duclair, Philippe Cadorette and Marvin Cüpper were named today the TELUS three stars of the week for January 20 to 26, 2014.

The first star of the week is the Quebec Remparts’ forward, Anthony Duclair. In 3 games, he collected eight points, including five goals. Thursday in Gatineau, Duclair became the first 40-goal scorer of this QMJHL season, in a 6-2 win. Saturday, in an offensive battle against the Val-d’Or Foreurs, Duclair tallied another 3 points, including the game winner for the second straight game. The New York Rangers' third round pick, is the currently the second point getter with 75 points, 10 behind the current leader, Anthony Mantha.
http://theqmjhl.ca/article/duclair-c...he-week/158136

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Duc is our most exciting CHL prospect since....?

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Mcilrath ?

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I think this aspect always gets overrated.

College players definitely have more academic related work to do. I'm sure there's a much bigger social scene compared to juniors as well, which can act as a distraction.

It's not like he's got 2 games on the weekend and hits the gym during the week for 5 hours a day.
At a powerhouse program, the work load is debatable. As far as the social scene, my understanding from those that I know is that it's pretty comparable. Junior hockey is a big part of the culture in Canada and border towns, so you have some 17 year old kids that are idolized. Lots of avenues for them to get into stuff. And it happens all the time. The distractions are everywhere.

I've known a couple collegiate hockey players, not even at any type of high level. They were all gym rats. I assume with the added structure of a high-profile program, it's the same if not more intense. They'd skate, lift, go to class, lift. If they couldn't lift as a team, they'd go as a team to the gym and lift "on their own." I think lifting is just an ingrained part of the culture of American college sports. Really, you have to lift to compete, as you're competing against a bunch of older, more mature players.

I'm a big advocate of going the NCAA route. I think it turns out guys that have good two-way games and are physically developed. Now, that's not at all to say those types of players don't come out of the CHL leagues. Every player has to choose what's best for them. It's not a one-size-fits-all type of thing.

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Mcilrath ?
Sanguinetti? I remember people following him very closely. 30+ goals in the WHL

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Sanguinetti? I remember people following him very closely. 30+ goals in the WHL
Sangs almost hit 30 one year in the OHL. You might be confusing him with someone else.

I'd say Duclair is the most hyped Junior player we've had since Grachev.

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Duc is our most exciting CHL prospect since....?
The last CHL player we had that you really wanted to follow every night was Grachev. For me anyway. And before that was Staal. You could go back further and you had Brendl and Lundmark, though it was hard to follow them unless you lived locally.

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The last CHL player we had that you really wanted to follow every night was Grachev. For me anyway. And before that was Staal. You could go back further and you had Brendl and Lundmark, though it was hard to follow them unless you lived locally.
yeah i would say grachev too, which is kind of weird cuz he only had 80 points in 60 games in his post draft year, but it was exciting to see how he did after every game. i think that team played a lot into his hype because hodgson and duchene also got so much hype and they kind of fed each others hype trains lol. duc is having a far more impressive statistical season than grachev did in his 19 year old junior season.

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yeah i would say grachev too, which is kind of weird cuz he only had 80 points in 60 games in his post draft year, but it was exciting to see how he did after every game. i think that team played a lot into his hype because hodgson and duchene also got so much hype and they kind of fed each others hype trains lol. duc is having a far more impressive statistical season than grachev did in his 19 year old junior season.
When Grachev was having his post draft year, this team had nobody in the pipeline with a prayer of becoming a 1st line player.

I'd be hard pressed to call him exciting, but hyped for sure. In hindsight, for a guy who's 6'4" 225, his numbers were pretty underwhelming playing with two incredibly skilled players in Duchene and Hodgson.

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