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How would the worst NHL teams fare in the Olympics?

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01-27-2014, 03:07 PM
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How would the worst NHL teams fare in the Olympics?

As of this posting, the Buffalo Sabres are the worst team in the NHL and the worst in the Eastern Conference and the Edmonton Oilers are the worst team in the Western Conference.

How would those 2 teams do in the Olympics? Would they be competitive? Could they beat the likes of Norway, Austria and other hockey minnows? Could they contend for Gold? Could they even win a medal to begin with?

Could they beat the hockey powerhouses like Canada, Sweden, USA or Russia? If not, would it be close or not?


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01-27-2014, 03:14 PM
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I think they'd be better than Switzerland and maybe Slovakia. Worse than Czech Republic and Finland. They'd be much better than the bottom 4 teams and an upset against the big 4 is always possible.

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I think they'd be better than Switzerland and maybe Slovakia. Worse than Czech Republic and Finland. They'd be much better than the bottom 4 teams and an upset against the big 4 is always possible.
Pretty much this. They'd be top 5 or 6, but couldn't beat the best countries.

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Figthing after Canada, Russian, Sweden, Usa, Finland, Chezch republic with Switzerland and Slovkaia.

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Probably below the Swiss and Slovakia...

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How many teams are over the NHL cap appr.? I guess that is a good start of the discussion.

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Behind the Slovaks, about level with the Swiss is my guess.

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Due to the fact that the players on regular NHL teams are used to playing together and national teams players are not (some teams only have a very few days of practice together) I´d think that any NHL team would be up to the challenge and have a fair chance at Gold.

To prove my point just look at the fact that the Swiss team quite often beats teams like Canada, Russia, Sweden or Finland. This is not just pure luck or because the players are undervalued, but because they have more experience playing together. They play tournaments like the Skoda cup or the Arosa Challenge as a preparation for the WC or the Olympics.

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From this thread: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1576943

Canada $150.9M
United States $119.8
Sweden $98.2M
Finland 66,5 M $
Czech 65 M $
Slovakia 50 M $
Swiss 28 M $
Latvia 12 M $

3 teams well above cap and 3 appr. at cap. I guess Russia is in the top too. So on paper we would not see any NHL team medal in the Olympics but a good NHL teams should get to the quarters with ease.

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Having seen most of Sabres games this season, there's NO WAY that team could realistically contend for Gold. Even not with Miller in goal.

I'm not sure they could beat Switzerland. I'm not even sure they could beat Latvia with the way they played early in the season. Thankfully, they've improved in the last couple of months.

Girgensons plays on Sabres' 2nd line. He'll probably play on the 2nd/3rd line in the Latvian national team.

Their bottom 6 is filled with players who would normally play in the AHL. There's really not that many NHL-caliber forwards there.

So I'd say they would be fighting for a QF spot most likely. Semi-finals if they get lucky. In other words, they'd be similar to Switzerland/Slovakia.

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They would struggle to reach top 8

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This is usually discussed in Soccer all the time. How would teams like Barcelona and AC Milan or whatever play against Brazil or Spain...

Honestly, probably very good.

Your mixing a lot of great diversity together and painting a broader picture.
Your chemistry and experience with one another is far higher than Olympic teams, especially in hockey since those guys hardly ever play with one another.

Systems, set plays, chemistry... I think the Islanders could do well in the Olympics. Idk how well, but shock most people

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Due to the fact that the players on regular NHL teams are used to playing together and national teams players are not (some teams only have a very few days of practice together) I´d think that any NHL team would be up to the challenge and have a fair chance at Gold.
Guy have you seen Edmonton play???

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7-8th place after obvious countries.

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Just below the top 7 nations I'm willing to bet.

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I think they'd be better than Switzerland and maybe Slovakia. Worse than Czech Republic and Finland. They'd be much better than the bottom 4 teams and an upset against the big 4 is always possible.
Switzerland and Slovakia may challenge the top teams. The Sabres and the Oilers aren't even close to that. The status of the NHL is overblown. Yes, it's the best league right now, but it' worst teams would be competitve against the bottom feeders at the olympics, probably beat most of them, but there' a huge gap in hockey between the bottom group and the top 6 to 7 teams. Against those The Sabres/Oilers have no chance.

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probably more fun to discuss whether top teams like Penguins or Chicago would do in the Olympics, I think.

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I think they would be worse than the Swiss.

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Probably higher than most people on here think they would.

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Probably higher than most people on here think they would.
I agree. The mere fact they practice and play together all the time would give them a big advantage. Probably finish 3rd or 4th. Simply on paper they'd rank just after slovakia.

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[QUOTE=LiveeviL;78857827]WORST? Sabres...loses to Switzerland, clearly. Beats Norway. Oilers beat Switzerland four times of 10.


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Canada $150.9M
United States $119.8
Sweden $98.2M
Finland 66,5 M $
Czech 65 M $
Slovakia 50 M $
Swiss 28 M $
Latvia 12 M $

3 teams well above cap and 3 appr. at cap. I guess Russia is in the top too. So on paper we would not see any NHL team medal in the Olympics but a good NHL teams should get to the quarters with ease.
Russia passes the 100 million $ mark now when (the) Semin is in 102" is my guess. Team Canada on average have a player with twice the cap hit of each player on each position on the best NHL team... mindblowing.

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Would the players who are on Olympic teams and the worst teams be counted as being on the worst teams? Would Miller count as a Sabre player for this question?

I think they would probably come in 6th or 7th.

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Quarterfinals or semifinals.

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Buffalo would be battling for 8th, likely just behind Switzerland and Norway.

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