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01-25-2014, 07:53 PM
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You must be kidding. Those are just fold down seats - on most of the arenas they use the tip-up ones. On Fetisov Arena they use both.

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01-25-2014, 08:35 PM
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ok Ult so why does it say on alot of places there are 7.5k seats in Fetisov overall, but only 5.5k on KHL page?

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01-26-2014, 11:01 AM
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Saransk (8200), January 2014.




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01-28-2014, 07:32 AM
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is Mordovia planning to move up to VHL? why such a huge arena?

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01-28-2014, 07:50 AM
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is Mordovia planning to move up to VHL? why such a huge arena?
It's not huge, it's a regular-size multipurpose arena for a 300k city. I live in a slightly bigger one (~350k), we have a 16k arena and not much problem to fill it up. This one is only half as big. Sure having a decent sports team would help but it's not a necessity.

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It's not huge, it's a regular-size multipurpose arena for a 300k city. I live in a slightly bigger one (~350k), we have a 16k arena and not much problem to fill it up. This one is only half as big. Sure having a decent sports team would help but it's not a necessity.
do you live on North America? if yes, don't compare please as European and Russian attendance culture is very different.

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01-28-2014, 08:50 AM
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Exactly, arenas in Europe (beside ones in Germany) are not profitable.

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01-28-2014, 09:30 AM
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do you live on North America? if yes, don't compare please as European and Russian attendance culture is very different.
No, I live in Europe. And it's the same for most cities of such size in Europe: Malmo (13-15k arena), Tallinn (7-10k arena), Zurich (11-13k arena), Geneva is a smaller city and their arena is 100 years old - still has a seating capacity of 7,3k, same with Basel, Bern is a small town by comparison and they still have arena with 17k capacity, Sweden is full of tiny towns with 6k arenas.. I do understand these are "bigger profile" cities compared to Saransk but considering its population it wouldn't make sense to build a smaller than 7-8k arena in this day and age.

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Exactly, arenas in Europe (beside ones in Germany) are not profitable.
Not sure at all if that's true. In Croatia - maybe.

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01-29-2014, 08:24 AM
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In Croatia + all eastern European countries, for sure.

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01-29-2014, 12:51 PM
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It's not huge, it's a regular-size multipurpose arena for a 300k city. I live in a slightly bigger one (~350k), we have a 16k arena and not much problem to fill it up.
You must live in the only European city of 350K with a 16-thnder

Globen in the capital of Sweden has the 13,850 capacity for hockey games...

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01-29-2014, 01:30 PM
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You must live in the only European city of 350K with a 16-thnder

Globen in the capital of Sweden has the 13,850 capacity for hockey games...
Bern for example has population of ~130k and have 17k arena so I doubt my city is the only one

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01-29-2014, 01:46 PM
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Bern for example has population of ~130k and have 17k arena so I doubt my city is the only one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostFinance-Arena

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It was built in 1967 and currently accommodates 17,131 people. A characteristic of the PostFinance Arena is that it has the world's largest standing room grandstand within an arena, with a capacity of 10,422 benches

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01-29-2014, 01:50 PM
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Exactly, arenas in Europe (beside ones in Germany) are not profitable.
Yup, they require a lot of events taht pack the arena to be profitable. Hartwall Arena wasn't very profitable (although a lot of it's revenue was used to cover the losses of Jokerit) and there was going to be a decline in events this year, hence why it was sold. Let's just say that analysts don't expect the Rotenbergs/Timtshenko to make much profit with it either.

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Not sure what's the point of your post.

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Not sure what's the point of your post.
"A characteristic of the PostFinance Arena is that it has the world's largest standing room grandstand within an arena, with a capacity of 10,422 benches"

put seats into the standing room -> capacity get smaller

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"A characteristic of the PostFinance Arena is that it has the world's largest standing room grandstand within an arena, with a capacity of 10,422 benches"

put seats into the standing room -> capacity get smaller
Well dah.. But we are arguing how small cities manage to fill big arenas not how to make these arenas smaller.

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01-30-2014, 08:21 AM
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Well dah.. But we are arguing how small cities manage to fill big arenas not how to make these arenas smaller.
Bern is an exception to the rule. Capitol of the country, 5th biggest city in Switzerland and the club has always had great attendance. The arena itself is old and the huge standing room section inflates the attendance somewhat.

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01-30-2014, 08:36 AM
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Standing room doesnt inflate the attendance. Thats not logical even. either you HAVE high attendance or you DONT. Bleachers dont inflate anything. they only allow more people to come. I doesnt make interest greater. besides the fans supposedly love them.
Im thinking you ment to say something else.

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Bern is an exception to the rule. Capitol of the country, 5th biggest city in Switzerland and the club has always had great attendance. The arena itself is old and the huge standing room section inflates the attendance somewhat.
Well yeah (even though I still can't see how the fact that people are standing alters the fact that they are in the arena), but Saransk is 2,5 times bigger and they are building an arena 2 times smaller than Bern. I agree everything about them is a lot different and they're not very relatable one to the other but I think it did just fine to paint the picture.

Anyway, this discussion is obviously of the rails if we began with Saransk and now are talking about how people are standing at hockey matches in Bern instead.

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02-01-2014, 03:53 PM
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02-17-2014, 05:44 AM
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What will happen to Shayba Arena? How about moving it to Novokuznetsk?

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02-17-2014, 01:28 PM
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What will happen to Shayba Arena? How about moving it to Novokuznetsk?
It's too far away. It will be cheaper to build a new one.

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02-17-2014, 01:29 PM
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Arena of Legends, 12000 seats, Moscow, January 2014. Under construction.







Kalmius Arena, 12800 seats, Donetsk, February 2014.







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Who's gonna play in the Legends Arena?

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They're still negotiating.

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