I agree, Guy! is so right on the money with his comments about Ribeiro that it's scary. Your question of "when you see a talented person, no matter what they're doing, not working hard and therefore not achieving as much as you believe they could, do you a) just accept what they do bring to the table because it's pretty good work already or, b) push that person to do even better, because if they ever came even close to their utmost potential, it could be scary good?" is a universal one Guy!. It not only applies to hockey but to all walks of life. I find it extremely frustrating when a person, even though that person is doing good, is not living up to half of his/her potential. A gifted person is given a special talent for a good reason : to put it to good use in such a way as to maximize its resulting benefits. For example, look at Albert Einstein. He could have been just a very excellent everyday scientist, but he was aware their was much more he could do and so, with alot of hard work, he did.