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02-02-2007, 06:29 AM
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Its Time For Snider To Say Something

Over the past 10-15 games, the officiating against the flyers has been flat out terrible, specifically regarding forsberg. Every game they miss a call against him, and then later call him for a stupid penalty, its starting to get ridiculous. The league obviously has a grudge against forsberg/flyers right now, and its becoming more blatantly obvious every game, especially with last nights "dive".

I think Snider needs to give Bettman or who ever a call and tell them to knock this **** off......its getting really out of hand now that its happening every game.

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02-02-2007, 08:24 AM
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It is becoming clear that Forsberg has the rep for being a complainer, but he's the captain of the Flyers, captains generally talk to officials after calls. Forsberg also isnt known as a diver, but he's been called for that. I think that all officiating in the NHL is under review because shanahan spoke out against the leagues officiating and not only was he not fine, but he was commended by the nhl.

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It is becoming clear that Forsberg has the rep for being a complainer, but he's the captain of the Flyers, captains generally talk to officials after calls. Forsberg also isnt known as a diver, but he's been called for that. I think that all officiating in the NHL is under review because shanahan spoke out against the leagues officiating and not only was he not fine, but he was commended by the nhl.
he's known as a diver. that rep goes back to Colorado, it's nothing new.

he's whining, call it like it is. if Forsberg was a bit more selective when he wished to talk to the Refs he'd be fine, but he's constantly barking at them... thus they're getting annoyed. it's fine to yap at the refs within reason when you're not the captain, when you're the captain you need to be diplomatic.... he hasn't been.

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It is becoming clear that Forsberg has the rep for being a complainer, but he's the captain of the Flyers, captains generally talk to officials after calls. Forsberg also isnt known as a diver, but he's been called for that. I think that all officiating in the NHL is under review because shanahan spoke out against the leagues officiating and not only was he not fine, but he was commended by the nhl.
No that's what happens when you're a diver for the first 10 years of your career, and you have to stop doing it because you don't know if your body can handle it.

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Over the past 10-15 games, the officiating against the flyers has been flat out terrible, specifically regarding forsberg. Every game they miss a call against him, and then later call him for a stupid penalty, its starting to get ridiculous. The league obviously has a grudge against forsberg/flyers right now, and its becoming more blatantly obvious every game, especially with last nights "dive".

I think Snider needs to give Bettman or who ever a call and tell them to knock this **** off......its getting really out of hand now that its happening every game.
Are you Steve Coates by chance?

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Actually, Jester has it pretty dead on. Forsberg hasn't shown the wisdom of selective discussion with the refs. It just looks like they are tired of listening to his mouth and are turning a blind eye to what happenes to him. Sorry but Premeau would have done it differently. He earned the respect of the refs and when he did get his dander up and got mouthy with them they understood that he probably had good reason to be so they'd tend to look a little bit closer next time. That's how a smart captain conducts himself. Forsberg is a great player and he has been getting taken to the wood shed out there on the ice but he hasn't managed the refs properly.

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Actually, Jester has it pretty dead on. Forsberg hasn't shown the wisdom of selective discussion with the refs. It just looks like they are tired of listening to his mouth and are turning a blind eye to what happenes to him. Sorry but Premeau would have done it differently. He earned the respect of the refs and when he did get his dander up and got mouthy with them they understood that he probably had good reason to be so they'd tend to look a little bit closer next time. That's how a smart captain conducts himself. Forsberg is a great player and he has been getting taken to the wood shed out there on the ice but he hasn't managed the refs properly.
The immortalization of Primeau continues. He played an amazing 20 games 3 years ago.

Who cares if it's not what Primeau would do. Forsberg is a fiery, passionate, and sometimes dirty player. He gets riled up, and from what I've seen, making him mad is a good thing. **** Primeau, he's gone.

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I think people often forget that Snyder was part of the competition committee which helped make the rules.

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The immortalization of Primeau continues. He played an amazing 20 games 3 years ago.

Who cares if it's not what Primeau would do. Forsberg is a fiery, passionate, and sometimes dirty player. He gets riled up, and from what I've seen, making him mad is a good thing. **** Primeau, he's gone.
that's all fine and good... but has nothing to do with the troubles Forsberg is having with the Refs.

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I think people often forget that Snyder was part of the competition committee which helped make the rules.
what does that have to do with responding to Refs sucking?

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that's all fine and good... but has nothing to do with the troubles Forsberg is having with the Refs.
It's just as irrelevant as bringing up Keith Primeau.

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It's just as irrelevant as bringing up Keith Primeau.
not necessarily, Primeau, for all of his physical play, was a very cerebral player and is very good at talking to people. Forsberg DOES need to be a bit more like Primeau when it comes to how he deals with the Refs.

comes back to i don't think Forsberg should be captain, he's much better off being able to do his own thing.

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Forsberg does bark alot, but there's more to it then that. Alot of players in the league bark at the refs more then he does, including the golden boy in pittsburgh, and they dont go through this. And most of the time he only opens his mouth after an obvious missed call or a poor call on him.

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Forsberg does bark alot, but there's more to it then that. Alot of players in the league bark at the refs more then he does, including the golden boy in pittsburgh, and they dont go through this. And most of the time he only opens his mouth after an obvious missed call or a poor call on him.
when you're the captain, it's an issue if you're a yapper...

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I'd be all for this but unfortunately the rest of the league won't understand. We are in last place and therefore are crybabies or looking for someone to blame.

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It's time for that worthless,crouchy putz to sell his share

I hate Ed Snider. I cannot stand to see him sitting around as though he knows what he's doing. He doesn't. He's a miserable old man who enjoys boasting about what his franchise accomplished in the past.The long and forgotten past. The NHL is not played the way it was when the Flyers entered the league,yet Snider has no clue about hiring the correct talent to fix his organisation.
I don't care if "it's time for Snider to say something".It's time for Snider to just go away.......forever.

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I hate Ed Snider. I cannot stand to see him sitting around as though he knows what he's doing. He doesn't. He's a miserable old man who enjoys boasting about what his franchise accomplished in the past.The long and forgotten past. The NHL is not played the way it was when the Flyers entered the league,yet Snider has no clue about hiring the correct talent to fix his organisation.
I don't care if "it's time for Snider to say something".It's time for Snider to just go away.......forever.
dude.

we are BLESSED that he owns this franchise... look around at all the CRAP owners in sports, and then consider what Snider has provided via the Flyers.

and most importantly... he's one of us. that man lives and dies with this franchise.

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addendum...

i DREAD the day he passes away and we're another corporate investment of Comcast.

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He's one of us?

I don't think so. He lives in a palatial mansion in L.A.,while his two organisations are being driven into the dirt by the buffoons that he has sanctioned to oversee them.Philadelphia is very,very far removed from the way he lives.The only time you see his miserable face is when he is called to task,and he never trully answers the questions about the Flyers and 76ers.The reason the 76ers started going down the toilet was when Snider stepped in and fired Pat Croce from his job as team president. Why was Croce fired? He wanted a bit more power in deciding the future of the franchise.Snider is an egotistical maniac,he simply floats around frowning at everyone as though he is on the same scale as Donald Trump (another egotist that I cannot stand,but much more successful than Snider).
The reason his Flyers are dead last in the NHL is simple.He has given full power to people like Bob Clarke and Paul Holmgren when it comes to hiring and trading the "talent" that takes the ice.That's sort of like allowing Dave Schultz and Bob Kelly run the officiating of the league.Two people who have no clue about their title is what we have been seeing for a very long time.
The fact that Snider was part of the board of governers who retooled the rules for the NHL is not surprising.Bettman recognizes the amount of money that Snider has raised while maintaining his ownership of the Flyers,and it's because of that reason that Snider is "respected" around the NHL.
I don't care how much capital that annoying,miserable old creep has raised.He doesn't do it for the love of the game,he does it for his love of money.In the recent past,the Flyers were a competetive club.A club that had a popular logo and sold a ton of replica jerseys and baseball caps.The team has always had a premere player to assist with the sales of those replica shirts,(Lindros,Primeau,Forsberg),yet they are always so lop-sided in talent.Now,they have the constantly injured and recovering captain Forsberg and their only addition to the "All-Star" team was Gagne.Gagne is a classic "floater".Outside of Gagne and Forsberg the Flyers are either very young and unproven players seeking to be led by greater talented veterens,and the Flyers are also a group of expensive veterens who played their best hockey 5 years ago on other teams.
To say that Flyer fans are "blessed" that Snider is the owner of our favourite franchise is an extreme over statement.He needs to be remebered,not revered.

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I don't think so. He lives in a palatial mansion in L.A.,while his two organisations are being driven into the dirt by the buffoons that he has sanctioned to oversee them.Philadelphia is very,very far removed from the way he lives.The only time you see his miserable face is when he is called to task,and he never trully answers the questions about the Flyers and 76ers.The reason the 76ers started going down the toilet was when Snider stepped in and fired Pat Croce from his job as team president. Why was Croce fired? He wanted a bit more power in deciding the future of the franchise.Snider is an egotistical maniac,he simply floats around frowning at everyone as though he is on the same scale as Donald Trump (another egotist that cannot stand,but much more successful than Snider).
The reason his Flyers are dead last in the NHL is simple.He has given full power to people like Bob Clarke and Paul Holmgren when it comes to hiring and trading the "talent" that takes the ice.That's sort of like allowing Dave Schultz and Bob Kelly run the officiating of the league.Two people who have no clue about their title is what we have been seeing for a very long time.
The fact that Snider was part of the board of governers who retooled the rules for the NHL is not surprising.Bettman recognizes the amount of money that Snider has raised while maintaining his ownership of the Flyers,and it because of that reason that Snider is "respected" around the NHL.
I don't care how much capital that annoying,miserable old creep has raised.He doesn't do it for the love of the game,he does it for his love of money.In the recent past,the Flyers were a competetive club.A club that had a popular logo and sold a ton of replica jerseys and baseball caps.The team has always had a premere player to assist with the sales of those replica shirts,(Lindros,Primeau,Forsberg),yet they are always so lop-sided in talent.Now,they have the constantly injured and recovering captain Forsberg and their only addition to the "All-Star" team was Gagne.Gagne is a classic "floater".Outside of Gagne and Forsberg the Flyers are either very young and unproven players seeking to be led by greater talented veterens,and the Flyers are also a group of expensive veterens who played their best hockey 5 years ago on other teams.
To say that Flyer fans are "blessed" that Snider is the owner of our favourite franchise is an extreme over statement.He needs to be remebered,not revered.
since the flyers were created no team in the NHL has won more games than this organization.

and you're complaining?

please.

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Forsberg does bark alot, but there's more to it then that. Alot of players in the league bark at the refs more then he does, including the golden boy in pittsburgh, and they dont go through this. And most of the time he only opens his mouth after an obvious missed call or a poor call on him.
When you do it over and over and over and over again, the refs lose their patience.

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The fact is, Forsberg has been given 6 penalties in his NHL career(I heard that on ESPN last year somewhere) and leads the league in active players with most dives. The fact of the matter is, when you get caught diving ONCE, you're marked for life, and you'll have a TON of cheap things happen to you and no call, just because the refs would rather let it go then risk getting caught with you blatantly diving and making them look stupid.

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Forsberg is frustrated and has been the entire season, aswell as most of last years, thats why hes *****ing and moaning about the refs.

And 99% of the time, hes right.

He gets more ******** calls against him than any other player, and players are allowed to manhandle him shift after shift without the refs doing their job(s).

Id be frustrated aswell.

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Forsberg is frustrated and has been the entire season, aswell as most of last years, thats why hes *****ing and moaning about the refs.

And 99% of the time, hes right.

He gets more ******** calls against him than any other player, and players are allowed to manhandle him shift after shift without the refs doing their job(s).

Id be frustrated aswell.
doesn't matter if you're right or wrong... showing up a ref will never ever get you far with them. especially when you're wearing a C or A that forces them to deal with you to an extent. when you're just one of the guys and you mutter something it doesn't matter... when the Captain is showing up the ref, he's not going to get away with it...

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