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Game #57| Mon., Feb. 3, 2014| Flyers at Sharks |10:30 p.m. ET


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PHILADELPHIA FLYERS (27-23-6, 13-13-5 away) vs. SAN JOSE SHARKS (35-15-6, 20-3-3 home)


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BROADCAST INFORMATION

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GAME PREVIEW, NOTES and STATISTICS

Team Stats
Team GP RecordHomeAwayL10G/GGA/GPP%PK%PIM/GS/GS/AFO%
Phi 56 27-23-6 14-10-1 13-13-5 4-4-2 2.66 2.82 19.5 83.9 15.5 29.5 30.3 48.8
SJS 56 35-15-6 20-3-3 15-12-3 7-3-0 2.84 2.30 17.8 83.6 9.1 35.2 27.9 53.2

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TEAMS' WEBSITES

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PHILADELPHIA FLYERS
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FLYERS' ROSTER
Forwards
No. Player Height Weight Date of Birth AgePlace of Birth
14 Sean Couturier 6' 3" 197 Dec 7, 1992 21 Phoenix, AZ, USA
9 Steve Downie 5' 11" 191 Apr 3, 1987 26 Newmarket, ON, CAN
28 Claude Giroux "C" 5' 11" 172 Jan 12, 1988 26 Hearst, ON, CAN
18 Adam Hall 6' 2" 212 Aug 14, 1980 33 Kalamazoo, MI, USA
19 Scott Hartnell "A" 6' 2" 210 Apr 18, 1982 31 Regina, SK, CAN
40 Vincent Lecavalier 6' 4" 215 Apr 21, 1980 33 Ile Bizard, QC, CAN
12 Michael Raffl6' 0" 192 Dec 1, 1988 25 Villach, AUT
24 Matt Read 5' 10" 185 Jun 14, 1986 27 Ilderton, ON, CAN
36 Zac Rinaldo 5' 11" 169 Jun 15, 1990 23 Missisauga, ON, CAN
37 Jay Rosehill 6' 3" 215 Jul 16, 1985 28 Olds, AB, CAN
10 Brayden Schenn 6' 1" 190 Aug 22, 1991 22 Saskatoon, SK, CAN
17 Wayne Simmonds 6' 2" 183 Aug 26, 1988 25 Scarborough, ON, CAN
93 Jakub Voracek 6' 2" 214 Aug 15, 1989 24 Kladno, CZE

Defensemen
No. Player Height Weight Date of Birth AgePlace of Birth
5 Braydon Coburn 6' 5" 220 Feb 27, 1985 28 Shaunavon, SK, CAN
75 Hal Gill 6' 7" 243 Apr 6, 1975 38 Concord, MA, USA
8 Nicklas Grossmann 6' 4" 230 Jan 22, 1985 29 Stockholm, SWE
26 Erik Gustafsson 5' 10" 180 Dec 15, 1988 25 Kvissleby, SWE
41 Andrej Meszaros 6' 2" 223 Oct 13, 1985 28 Považská Bystrica, SVK
20 Chris Pronger 6' 6" 220 Oct 10, 1974 39 Dryden, ON, CAN
22 Luke Schenn 6' 2" 229 Nov 2, 1989 24 Saskatoon, SK, CAN
32 Mark Streit 5' 11" 191 Dec 11, 1977 36 Bern, CHE
44 Kimmo Timonen "A" 5' 10" 194 Mar 18, 1975 38 Kuopio, FIN

Goalies
No. Player Height Weight Date of Birth AgePlace of Birth
29 Ray Emery 6' 2" 196 Sep 28, 1982 31 Hamilton, ON, CAN
35 Steve Mason 6' 4" 217 May 29, 1988 25 Oakville, ON, CAN

FLYERS' POSSIBLE LINEUP
Lines
Left WingCenterRight Wing
19 - Scott Hartnell (A) 28 - Claude Giroux (C) 93 -Jakub Voracek
40 - Vincent Lecavalier 10 - Brayden Schenn 17 - Wayne Simmonds
9 - Steve Downie 14 - Sean Couturier 24 - Matt Read
12 - Michael Raffl 18 - Adam Hall 36 - Zac Rinaldo

Pairings
Name Name
8 - Nicklas Grossmann 5 - Braydon Coburn
41 - Andrej Meszaros 32 - Mark Streit
26 - Erik Gustafsson 22 - Luke Schenn

Goalies
Name Name
29 - Ray Emery 35 - Steve Mason (expected starter)

FLYERS' INJURIES and SCRATCHES
Player Status Description
Hal Gill available expected to be scratched
Andrej Meszarosavailable could play if Timonen is scratched
Chris Pronger placed on LTIR Sep. 30 post-concussion syndrome
Jay Rosehill available could be scratched
Kimmo Timonen will not play left foot

FLYERS' POWER PLAY UNITS
No. 1: Wayne Simmonds |Claude Giroux | Jakub Voracek |Scott Hartnell | Mark Streit/Kimmo Timonen
No. 2: Brayden Schenn | Sean Couturier|Steve Downie |Vincent Lecavalier| Mark Streit/Andrej Meszaros/Erik Gustafsson

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SAN JOSE SHARKS
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SHARKS' POSSIBLE LINEUP
Lines
Left WingCenterRight Wing
83 - Matthew Nieto 19 - Joe Thornton 88 - Brent Burns
12 - Patrick Marleau 8 -Joe Pavelski 57 - Tommy Wingels
15 - James Sheppard 38 - Bracken Kearns 9 - Martin Havlat
76 - Eriah Hayes 10 - Andrew Desjardins 18 - Mike Brown

Pairings
Name Name
44 - Marc-Edouard Vlasic 61 - Justin Braun
7 - Brad Stuart 52 - Matt Irwin
22 - Dan Boyle 27 - Scott Hannan

Goalies
Name Name
31 - Antti Niemi (expected starter)32 - Alex Stalock

SHARKS' INJURIES and SCRATCHES
Player Status Description
Adam Burish injured reserve lower body
Logan Couture injured reserve hand surgery
Jason Demers doubtful lower body
Scott Hannan available healthy
Tomas Hertl injured reserveright knee surgery
Tyler Kennedy available healthy
Raffi Torres injured reserveright knee surgery

SHARKS' POWER PLAY UNITS
No. 1: Joe Pavelski |Joe Thornton |Patrick Marleau |Dan Boyle |Jason Demers
No. 2: Matthew Nieto |Tommy Wingels | Martin Havlat |Marc-Edouard Vlasic | Brent Burns

SHARKS' ROSTER
Forwards
No. Player Height Weight Date of Birth AgePlace of Birth
18 Mike Brown 5' 11" 202 Jun 24, 1985 28 Chicago, IL, USA
37 Adam Burish 6' 1" 195 Jan 6, 1983 31 Madison, WI, USA
88 Brent Burns 6' 5" 230 Mar 9, 1985 28 Barrie, ON, CAN
39 Logan Couture 6' 1" 200 Mar 28, 1989 24 Guelph, ON, CAN
10 Andrew Desjardins 6' 1" 195 Jul 27, 1986 27 Lively, ON, CAN
9 Marty Havlat 6' 2" 210 Apr 19, 1981 32 Mlada Boleslav, CZE
76 Eriah Hayes 6' 4" 210 Jul 7, 1988 25 La Crescent, MN, USA
48 Tomas Hertl 6' 2" 210 Nov 12, 1993 20 Praha, CZE
38 Bracken Kearns 6' 0" 195 May 12, 1981 32 North Vancouver, BC, CAN
81 Tyler Kennedy 5' 11" 185 Jul 15, 1986 27 Sault Ste. Marie, ON, CAN
12 Patrick Marleau "A" 6' 2" 220 Sep 15, 1979 34 Aneroid, SK, CAN
43 John McCarthy 6' 1" 195 Aug 9, 1986 27 Boston, MA, USA
83 Matt Nieto 5' 11" 190 Nov 5, 1992 21 Long Beach, CA, USA
8 Joe Pavelski 5' 11" 190 Jul 11, 1984 29 Plover, WI, USA
15 James Sheppard 6' 1" 215 Apr 25, 1988 25 Halifax, NS, CAN
19 Joe Thornton "C" 6' 4" 220 Jul 2, 1979 34 London, ON, CAN
13 Raffi Torres 6' 0" 215 Oct 8, 1981 32 Toronto, ON, CAN
57 Tommy Wingels 6' 0" 200 Apr 12, 1988 25 Evanston, IL, USA

Defensemen
No. Player Height Weight Date of Birth AgePlace of Birth
22 Dan Boyle "A" 5' 11" 190 Jul 12, 1976 37 Ottawa, ON, CAN
61 Justin Braun 6' 2" 205 Feb 10, 1987 26 Minneapolis, MN, USA
5 Jason Demers 6' 1" 195 Jun 9, 1988 25 Dorval, QC, CAN
27 Scott Hannan 6' 1" 215 Jan 23, 1979 35 Richmond, BC, CAN
52 Matt Irwin 6' 2" 210 Nov 29, 1987 26 Brentwood Bay, BC, CAN
7 Brad Stuart 6' 2" 215 Nov 6, 1979 34 Rocky Mountain House, AB, CAN
44 Marc-Edouard Vlasic 6' 1" 205 Mar 30, 1987 26 Montreal, QC, CAN

Goalies
No. Player Height Weight Date of Birth AgePlace of Birth
31 Antti Niemi 6' 2" 210 Aug 29, 1983 30 Vantaa, FIN
32 Alex Stalock 6' 0" 190 Jul 28, 1987 26 St. Paul, MN, USA

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FLYERS vs. SHARKS SERIES HISTORY

Regular Season Record
Team W-L-T-OTL Home Away
San Jose Sharks 14-11-4-3 6-5-2-2 8-6-2-1

Playoffs Record
Opponent Series W-L Home Away
San Jose Sharks 0-00-00-00-0

Regular Season Streaks (unless noted)
Opponent W-L-T-OTL Home Away
San Jose Sharks 1-8-2-3 in last 14 0-3-1-2 in last 6 (last won Dec. 21, 2000) 1-5-1-1 in last 8)

Flyers' Longest Regular Season Winless Streaks vs. One Opponent (10 or more, unofficial)
Total W-L-T-OTL Opponent Years
27 0-23-4-0 Boston 1969-1974
16 0-10-6-0 Chicago 1969-1971
14 0-12-2-0 Montreal 1968-1970
14 0-10-4-0 Pittsburgh 1991-1993
13 0-11-2-0 NY Rangers 1971-1973
13 0-9-4-0 Montreal 1976-1979
13 0-8-2-3 San Jose 2002-2012
10 0-9-0-1 Tampa Bay 2003-2006
10 0-9-1-0 Calgary 1987-1990

1991-1994:
  • October 31, 1991 -- Mike Ricci had three points and the Flyers handed San Jose the franchise's eleventh straight defeat, 5-2 in Philadelphia on Halloween night. Head coach Paul Holmgren reunited the line of Ricci (1-2-3), Rick Tocchet (2-0-2) and Pelle Eklund (0-1-1) which combined for six points. The Flyers' struggling powerplay entered the game 3-for-51 but went 2-for-7. Tocchet, who scored both PPGs, had the first goal in this series, the first minor penalty and later was involved in the first fight when he battled David Williams in the third period. Ron Hextall, who returned to the lineup after serving a six-game suspension for slashing in a pre-season game, made 25 saves including 15-for-15 in the third period. Link Gaetz and David Bruce scored for San Jose and Jarmo Myllys made 26 saves. San Jose played its 14th NHL game and fell to 1-13-0.

  • January 3, 1992 -- Jeff Hackett made 27 saves and Dale Craigwell's first NHL goal snapped a 1-1 third period tie in the Sharks' 3-1 home victory played at the Cow Palace in Daly City, California. The PPG came during a 5-minute major to Rod Brind'Amour who was ejected for high-sticking. The Flyers later lost the services of Brad Jones for a similar major but killed that penalty. San Jose outshot the Flyers 14-7 in the third period including 8-1 over the last 10 minutes. Kelly Kisio added a SH-ENG with teammate Pat Falloon in the box. Ron Hextall made 28 saves for the Flyers.
  • March 1, 1992 -- Mark Freer scored in the first period and Ron Hextall stopped 30 shots in a 1-0 Flyers' shutout victory in the sold-out (10,888) Cow Palace. Al Conroy, pointless in his prior 10 games, set up the winning goal. Conroy fought Kelly Kisio in the third period. Jeff Hackett made 32 saves for the Sharks. The Flyers had eleven shots in each period.
  • December 18, 1992 -- Mark Pederson was traded to San Jose for Dave Snuggerud.
  • December 30, 1992 -- Mark Recchi (2-1-3), Rod Brind'Amour (1-2-3) and Tommy Soderstrom (33 saves) led the Flyers to a 6-2 road win. Shawn Cronin ended a 127-game scoreless streak (last goal was November 24, 1990, Winnipeg vs. Quebec) which was the NHL's longest current skid. Three Flyers' defensemen scored: Cronin, Garry Galley and Gord Hynes. The Flyers led 4-0 in the third period before the Sharks struck twice. The Flyers' PP was 2-for-3 while the PK was 6-for-6. Sharks' rookie Rob Gaudreau was held scoreless for the first time in his career, ending his 12-game point streak (14 goals, 5 assists). Sandis Ozolinsh suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee and missed the rest of the season. The game was played before a sellout crowd of 11,089 in the Cow Palace.
  • March 25, 1993 -- Mark Recchi (2-1-3), Rod Brind'Amour (1-1-2) and Eric Lindros (1-1-2) led the Flyers to a 5-2 home win. The Flyers held a 22-6 shot advantage through two periods and 33-18 in the game. Lindros scored in his sixth straight game, had 22 PIMs and had a Gordie Howe hat trick with fights vs. Doug Zmolek ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqLiehjeoeQ ) and Rob Zettler ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsYkndwFCZI ) in the third period. Dominic Roussel made 16 saves but allowed one goal when a puck bounced past him leading to jeers from the home crowd. After the game, Lindros said that "would've gotten by Cal Ripken."
  • February 1, 1994 -- Rob Zettler was acquired from the Sharks for Vyacheslav Butsayev.
  • February 3, 1994 -- Sergei Makarov's goal, off a feed from Igor Larionov, gave San Jose a 3-2 OT win in Philly. Arturs Irbe made 32 saves for the Sharks. The Flyers dropped their fifth straight game. Former Flyer Vyatcheslav Butsayev committed a penalty on his first shift with San Jose leading to a Mark Recchi PPG. Andre Faust made it 2-0 later in the opening period. Pat Falloon and Rob Gaudreau evened the game in the middle of the second period scoring 47 seconds apart. Dominic Roussel made 27 saves in the loss.
  • February 15, 1994 -- Mikael Renberg (3-1-4) recorded a third period natural hat trick leading the Flyers to a 6-4 victory in their first visit to the San Jose Arena. It was the seventh time in Flyers' history a player scored three times in one regular season period. Eric Lindros had three (1-2-3) points and Bob Wilkie had two of his four Flyers' career points in this game. Dominic Roussel played 35:40 and was 19-for-19 in relief of Tommy Soderstrom who surrendered four goals on nine shots and was replaced early in the second period. Philly scored six times on 19 shots off Arturs Irbe. The Sharks led 2-0 2:40 into the game but Mark Recchi scored his 30th goal 1:17 later and the Flyers pulled ahead by the break, 3-2. Pat Falloon put the Sharks ahead 4-3 early in the second period. Then Renberg took charge in the third period, scoring at 2:43, 9:19 and 14:10. The teams combined to go 0-for-17 on the PP including San Jose going 0-for-10.

1995-1999:
  • November 16, 1995 -- San Jose traded Pat Falloon to the Flyers for Martin Spanhel, Philadelphia's 1996 1st round choice (later traded to Buffalo, then Phoenix who selected Daniel Briere) and Philadelphia's 1996 4th round choice (later traded to Buffalo who selected Mike Martone).
  • January 3, 1996 -- Ron Hextall stopped 30 shots and two-thirds of the Legion of Doom scored in a 3-1 win played in San Jose. Mikael Renberg (1-0-1) and John LeClair (1-1-2) increased the season total of goals by the Flyers' top line to 68 (of 144) and Eric Lindros added two assists. Yanick Dupre, in his fourth NHL game, scored the first of two goals in his 35-game NHL career; he passed away in 1997 with leukemia. Aris Brimanis, in his eighth NHL game, picked up his first point. San Jose outshot Philly 31-19. The lone Sharks' goal was a PPG by Marcus Ragnarsson.

  • March 17, 1996 -- John LeClair (3-1-4), Eric Lindros (0-4-4), Pat Falloon (2-0-2), Joel Otto (1-2-3) and Dale Hawerchuk (1-2-3) played key roles in the Flyers' 8-2 home win. LeClair recorded his third NHL hat trick. Hawerchuk had three points in his second game as a Flyer. Falloon scored two PPGs and the team was 3-for-3. "You want to prove to the team, that traded you that you can still play," Falloon said. "Any player will tell you that and it's no different with me. I had chances to get that third goal and I hit the post a couple of times. It's something that will haunt me for a while, but it was 7-2 or 8-2 at the time, so I don't feel too bad about it." The Flyers led 4-1 in the first period and 7-1 late in the second period. Garth Snow made 18 saves. Geoff Sarjeant gave up eight goals on 24 shots. Kjell Samuelsson fought Jeff Odgers and Chris Therien was tossed as third man ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCX1STznNZk ).

  • November 16, 1996 -- Greg Hawgood's PPG with 2:37 to play gave San Jose a 2-2 tie in Philadelphia. The Flyers carried a 2-0 lead into the final period but Jeff Friesan scored at the 9:42 mark to cut the Flyers lead in half. The tying goal came with Daniel Lacroix in the box for high-sticking Owen Nolan. John LeClair scored twice in the first to give Philly a 2-0 lead. The Flyers held a 25-15 shots advantage over the first two periods but the Sharks held a 16-10 edge the rest of the game including 5-1 in OT. Scott Daniels and Marty McSorley fought -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V1jc3cD24Q .
  • January 2, 1997 -- Ron Hextall made 26 saves and the Flyers beat nemesis (just seven wins in 30 meetings) Chris Terreri, 4-1 in San Jose. Daniel Lacroix and Eric Lindros gave the Flyers a 2-0 lead in the first period. The sizzling Flyers increased their unbeaten streak to 15 games (13-0-2) including a 9-0-1 run for Hextall. Lindros (11-12-23) and linemate John LeClair (12-10-22) continued their strong offense during the streak, too, with a point each.
  • October 13, 1997 -- Garth Snow made 43 saves, including 24 in the second period, and Eric Lindros (1-1-2) scored the GWG on the first shot in OT to lift Philly to a 3-2 win. Rod Brind'Amour (1-1-2) tied the game with 2:55 to play. Sharks' coach Darryl Sutter said "I'm really disappointed that we lost, but not in the way we played. We had great opportunities but we couldn't put the puck past Snow." Said Flyers' head coach Wayne Cashman "Our goaltending is the reason we won. It was as good of display as I've ever seen." The Sharks held a 45-24 shots advantage including 25-9 in the second period and 11-5 in the third period. Despite being outshot 36-14 over the last two periods, the Flyers out-scored the Sharks 2-1. The Flyers' PK was 8-for-8. Shawn Burr (2-0-2) scored both San Jose goals (he had six in 60 regular season games in his Sharks' career) but he suffered a torn ACL in right knee after colliding with John LeClair and the injury required reconstructive surgery (he did not return until January 21, 1998).
  • November 20, 1997 -- San Jose recorded a 3-0 win in Philly as Mike Vernon had 28 saves and improved his record to 18-5-3 against the Flyers (regular season and POs combined). The Sharks had just 12 shots on goal and were outshot 10-1 in the third period. Eric Lindros, who earlier fought Todd Gill, scuffled with Marty McSorley in an altercation which led to an investigation by the NHL to determine if Lindros bit McSorley on the cheek and face. The NHL reviewed video and denied the claim. Said Lindros "I didn't bite Marty. What's been talked about is just inaccurate reporting. It's unfortunate. The bottom line is it didn't occur.'' McSorley said ``He didn't bite me -- whether he tried, I can't answer that. The only problem I have is he whacked me across the face with his stick. He's a tough kid. . . . he doesn't need to do that.'' Darryl Sutter, San Jose's head coach, said " Everyone was overreacting big-time. I didn't see anything. They're reacting to the cut, which was from the stick, not anything else. I didn't know anything about it until I went to bed and watched ESPN. On our team, it's not an issue.''

  • August 6, 1998 -- The Flyers traded unsigned 1994 draft pick Johan Hedberg to San Jose for a 1999 7th round draft pick used to select Pavel Kasparik. Hedberg made his NHL debut for Pittsburgh in 2000-01.
  • October 20, 1998 -- The Flyers outshot the Sharks 37-18, including 14-3 in the decisive third period, en route to a 3-1 home victory. Colin Forbes scored the game-winner and Eric Lindros (1-1-2) added an insurance tally in the final period. Rod Brind'Amour (1-1-2) tied the game 1-1 with 18 seconds left in the second period and began the game as the replacement for Mike Maneluk on the reformed Legion of Doom Line. John Vanbiesbrouck made 17 saves. Mike Vernon stopped 34 shots for the Sharks.
  • December 28, 1998 -- Eric Lindros and Joe Murphy swapped second period goals in a 1-1 tie at San Jose. Lindros' PPG, with Igor Korolyuk penalized for four minutes, snapped a streak of 31 straight kills by the Sharks. John Vanbiesbrouck made 22 saves as did San Jose goalie Mike Vernon who excelled in OT when the Flyers had a 6-1 shots advantage. With Flyers' d-man Chris Therien in the box due to a misconduct penalty picked up after a questionable penalty late in the OT, the Sharks nearly won in OT when Bill Houlder's one-timer dinged the crossbar with three seconds remaining.
  • November 5, 1999 -- Eric Lindros (1-1-2), John LeClair (1-0-1) and Daymond Langkow (1-1-2) scored and Mark Recchi (0-2-2) added two assists in the Flyers' 3-1 road win. The Flyers' PP was 2-for-4. Philly doubled San Jose's shot total 32-16 including 10-3 in the opening period (2-0 lead). Alex Korolyuk spoiled a John Vanbiesbrouck shutout bid with 1:26 remaining. Steve Shields made 29 saves. Afterwards, San Jose coach Darryl Sutter questioned the effort of his best players. "I guess I'm disappointed that our best players didn't play very well tonight. We've seen it on three or four occasions against the top clubs, which tells us we have players who have some work to do against the team's top players" to which Jeff Friesen replied "I was ready to play. I felt good. I'll look at the tape and see what I could have done better. I was on the ice for two goals and I've just got to take the blame and move on. That's part of the game."
  • November 13, 1999 -- Mikael Renberg's PPG with 4:23 remaining in the second period gave the Flyers a 3-2 home win. Daymond Langkow and John LeClair also scored. LeClair's goal was his 291st as a Flyer which put him in eighth place on team's all-time goals list. The Flyers led 2-0 at the 10:42 mark but were tied by the Sharks when Jeff Friesen scored a SHG 4:35 in the second period. John Vanbiesbrouck made 18 saves. The Flyers extended a recent run to 10-2-1 in their last 13 games after stating the season 0-5-1.

2000s:
  • December 21, 2000 -- The Flyers went 3-for-4 on the PP, including two by Rick Tocchet, in a 4-3 home win. Daymond Langkow (1-2-3) had three points and Roman Cechmanek made 25 saves. Patrick Marleau scored twice for the Sharks, whose five-game winning streak was snapped. Evgeni Nabokov (7 saves, 10 shots) was replaced early in the second period, down 3-1, by Steve Shields (23 saves, 24 shots). Bill Barber began his coaching career with a 3-0-3 record, the best start for any Flyers' coach. Chris McAllister and Shawn Thornton had a spirited fight -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiK-3mEbe08

  • January 2, 2002 --Miikka Kiprusoff made 22 saves and Owen Nolan (1-2-3) had three points in San Jose's 5-2 home win in the newly named Compaq Center. Gary Suter's PPG early in the third period snapped a 2-2 tie. The Sharks out-scored the Flyers 3-0 in the third period. San Jose held a 36-24 shots advantage, including 28-11 over the last 40 minutes and 12-4 in the final period. Bryan Marchment leveled Donald Brashear with an open ice hit ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byyk0kIYgNw ) and the two later fought ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vtDqODACPs ) . Marchment, who also lost a fight to Todd Fedoruk, was named the game's top star.
  • November 21, 2002 -- Jeremy Roenick's PPG with 7:29 to play gave the Flyers a 2-2 tie in Philly. The goal snapped an 0-for-32 skid with the man advantage for the Flyers. Sharks' coach Darryl Sutter complained about the call issued to Matt Bradley saying "Like he missed him by three feet, that's what it looked life in real life, too. For the most part, you expect that. When the penalties are 6-2, or whatever, you know they're looking for something that may or may not be there." San Jose was 1-for-8 on PPs and the Flyers went 1-for-5. The Flyers had the only three PPs of the third period but the Sharks had seven consecutive power plays stretching from the first period into the second. Evgeni Nabokov made 32 saves. Robert Esche, who was named the game's top star and made 27 saves, was brilliant throughout the game and twice stopped Teemu Selanne on breakaways. Afterwards, Selanne said "I think last year I missed two breakaways all season.'' One of his breakaways came on a 2-on-0 moments after Selanne gave the Sharks a 1-0 lead. Chris Therien suffered a back injury and missed the next six games. It was the Flyers' fourth tie in their last five games.
  • December 6, 2002 -- Marcus Ragnarsson was acquired from San Jose for Dan McGillis. When asked about the trade Flyers' GM Bob Clarke said "We knew that we were giving up a player who has been pretty good for us. We feel that for the development of Dennis Seidenberg, we needed a steadier, more stay-at-home defenseman. We think Ragnarsson is a lot like Eric Desjardins - a little bigger, but a similar player. He will bring more stability to our defense." Ragnarsson said "I'm a pretty good overall defenseman. I can do a little bit of everything out there. This actually came as a shock. I’ve been with San Jose for 7-1/2 years. But once I found out it was Philadelphia, I was happy, because it was a pretty good team I was coming to."
  • December 30, 2002 -- Jonathan Cheechoo scored in the third period and Evgeni Nabokov made 24 saves in the Sharks' 2-1 home win. John LeClair and Simon Gagne did not play due to injuries. Marty Murray scored the Flyers only goal and ended an 18-game scoring drought. Donald Brashear and Bryan Marchment were issued minor penalties ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dESdsaMwU ).
  • June 22, 2003 -- San Jose selected Joe Pavelski with the Flyers' 2003 7th round pick in exchange for a 6th round pick in 2004 used to pick Ladislav Scurko.
  • October 16, 2003 -- Jeff Hackett (27 saves) and Evgeni Nabokov (26 saves) dueled to a scoreless tie in the HP Pavilion. It was Hackett's 25th career shutout and the second shutout in his first three starts for his Flyers. The shutout was the 18th for Nabokov. Each team failed to score on lengthy 5-on-3's and the Flyers also failed on a double minor to Marco Sturm issued 14:28 into the third period. In OT, the Sharks nearly scored but a goal judge reviewed and rejected the possible goal.
  • February 16, 2004 -- Scott Thornton (1-2-3) and Jonathan Cheechoo (1-2-3) each had three points and Evgeny Nabokov made 20 saves in San Jose's 5-2 win in Philly. Patrick Marleau, Mike Ricci and Marco Sturm each had a goal and an assist. The Sharks took just 20 shots, one game after taking a club-record 50 shots in a 2-1 OT win at Columbus. Jeremy Roenick and Keith Primeau were out of the Flyers' lineup. Only five minors were called in the game for a total of 10 PIMs.
  • March 9, 2006 -- Niko Dimitrakos was acquired from the Sharks for a 2006 3rd round draft pick later traded to the Columbus Blue Jackets (Tom Sestito was selected).
  • November 18, 2006 -- San Jose scored three goals in the first and second periods en route to a 6-1 home win. Patrick Rissmiller scored 2:36 into the game. Twelve Sharks registered points including the game's top star Ryan Clowe (1-1-2). Mike Grier's SHG, with Joe Thornton in the box, halted the Flyers' momentum and made it 3-1. San Jose held a 25-18 shots advantage. Vesa Toskala made 17 saves. Geoff Sanderson scored the Flyers' lone goal, on the PP with Matt Carle penalized. Robert Esche (12 saves, 18 shots) was replaced by Antero Niittymaki (7 saves, 7 shots). Ben Eager and Mark Bell fought ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X_DYi-nldU ). Boyd Kane also fought Bell ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omiBgLiG8iE ).
  • February 21, 2008 -- Milan Michalek and Douglas Murray scored 42 seconds apart in the first 4:17 of the third period and Evgeni Nabokov made 26 saves in San Jose's 3-1 win in Philly. Jonathan Cheechoo gave the Sharks a 1-0 lead in the first period. Mike Knuble evened the score with six seconds left in the second period. The Sharks held a 40-27 shots advantage. Martin Biron made 37 saves. The Flyers were 0-for-0 on PPs while the Sharks went 0-for-7. The game had a lopsided total of PIMs as the Flyers had 41 (including misconducts) to the Sharks total of 5. Scottie Upshall and Riley Cote were both issued 10-minute misconducts as the second period ended and Jaroslav Modry was whistled for tripping as regulation time expired adding to the imbalance in minutes. The lone Sharks' infraction was a 5-minute major to Jody Shelley (vs. Cote) in the first period ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHUk5rwXSTI ). The Flyers lost for the ninth straight time (0-8-1, slump would ultimately end at 0-8-2). Prior to the game, Flyers' GM Paul Holmgren presented the Sharks' Jeremy Roenick with a Tiffany crystal in honor of his 500th career goal (the third American to reach that total joining Mike Modano and Joey Mullen). Highlights -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbTcX1Qx2oE

  • October 18, 2008 -- Dan Boyle's goal lifted the Sharks to a 5-4 OT win at home. The entertaining game was sent to an extra period when Devin Setoguchi evened the score 4-4 with 4:44 to play in regulation. The Flyers took a 4-3 lead when Daniel Briere (2-0-2) scored on a breakaway with 8:49 remaining. San Jose outshot Philly 44-17 but goaltender Antero Niittymaki recorded second star honors with his brilliant play including a tremendous glove save late in the third period with the score tied 4-4 which led Sharks' PxP man Dan Rusanowsky to say "Niittymaki, you're a thief!" in appreciation. The Flyers led 3-1 when Jeff Carter (1-1-2) scored a SHG 6:48 into the middle period, 21 seconds into a minor penalty on Luca Sbisa and 1:41 after the Flyers killed a two-minute 5-on-3 disadvantage. The Sharks went 1-for-7 on the PP, while Philly was 0-for-2. Riley Cote fought Jody Shelley -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQxOEY2DtA Highlights -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBT7DL9lUCM&feature=fvw

  • October 22, 2008 -- Joe Pavelski and Jeremy Roenick scored in the 2-0 shootout win which gave San Jose a 7-6 victory at Philly. Patrick Marleau (2-2-4) had a game-high four points. Evgeni Nabokov surrendered six goals on 29 shots but stopped both shootout attempts for the win. San Jose led 4-3 after a wild first period which led to the removal of Antero Niittymaki (11 saves, 15 shots) for Martin Biron (18 saves, 20 shots). Joffrey Lupul (2-0-2), Scott Hartnell (0-3-3) and Kimmo Timonen (+4) led the Flyers. The Sharks led 6-4 in the opening minute of the third period but Lupul scored 17 seconds later, then Briere's PPG tied the game with 65 seconds left. Philly started the season with an 0-3-3 record. Pre-game ceremony honoring Jeremy Roenick for scoring 500 NHL goals -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGIO85Lu0lg Highlights -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvkVEeAA_Q

  • March 6, 2009 -- The Flyers voided the trade for Kyle McLaren, made two days earlier, sending the defenseman back to the Sharks after he failed a physical. San Jose traded the 12-year NHL veteran to Philadelphia for a sixth-round pick in the 2009 draft. McLaren suffered a hand injury while fighting December 10 in an AHL game. "Kyle has been very professional about his situation this season. From the beginning of the year, we made a commitment to Kyle to find an opportunity for him to play in the National Hockey League. Unfortunately, this deal didn't work out, but Kyle will return to the organization and work towards the full recovery of his hand," said San Jose GM Doug Wilson.
  • October 25, 2009 -- Manny Malhotra scored his first two goals of the season and Thomas Greiss made 37 saves in the Sharks' 4-1 win in Philly. The game was tied 1-1 after the first until Malhotra scored twice in the second period. Malhotra and Joe Thornton combined to win 27 of 36 (.750) faceoffs. Brian Boucher played his first regular season game for the Flyers since the 2001-02 season. "There are a lot of reasons why this game would have been nice to win. But it didn't work out that way. But this was a starting point," said Boucher.
  • November 20, 2009 -- Dany Heatley (3-0-3) and Joe Thornton (0-4-4) combined for seven points and Evgeni Nabokov made 27 saves in San Jose's 6-3 home win. The game was tied 2-2 until Patrick Marleau scored with five seconds left in the second period. The Sharks scored three times in the third period. Daniel Carcillo fought Frazer McLaren and Jeff Carter and Marc Edouard Vlasic picked up fighting majors. Claude Giroux (2-1-3) led the Flyers. Highlights -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVITMlchlg

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  • February 28, 2012 -- Ryan Clowe scored on the first shot of the game and Antii Niemi made 26 saves in the Sharks' 1-0 home win. San Jose won for the ninth straight time in this series (Flyers' record 0-6-0-3) which has been surpassed by just two other franchises: Boston's 15 from 1970 until 1972 and the Rangers' 10 from 1971 until 1973. The Flyers winless streak in this series was extended to 13 games (0-8-2-3). The Sharks returned home after a nine-game road trip. Ilya Bryzgalov made 22 saves. The game had six PIMs, 4 to San Jose and 2 to the Flyers. Highlights -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0s78gdDEE
  • February 3, 2014 -- The Flyers established a franchise record tenth victory while trailing in a third period with a 5-2 win at San Jose. The Flyers trailed 2-1 after two periods and rallied with three goals in a span of 2:45 in the opening 3:56 of the third period. Matt Read, Michael Raffl and Claude Giroux (1-2-3) scored the goals which led to Antii Niemi (19 saves, 23 shots) being replaced by Alex Stalock (4 saves, 5 shots). The Flyers' PK was 1-for-5 including two kills in the third period. Matt Nieto (2-0-2) scored consecutive goals in the first period to give the Sharks a 2-1 lead but he was also in the box when Mark Streit gave Philly a 1-0 lead in the opening five minutes. The Flyers snapped a nine-game losing streak and a 13-game winless skid in this series and won in San Jose for the first time since 1999.

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So now that we saw Meszaros - Streit paired up today and lived to tell about it, would anyone have a major problem with Grossmann being the healthy scratch when Timonen comes back?

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So now that we saw Meszaros - Streit paired up today and lived to tell about it, would anyone have a major problem with Grossmann being the healthy scratch when Timonen comes back?


Against the 29th ranked offense with the goalie having a great game to boot.

Let's see what happens against the 7th ranked offense and after more than one game before proclaiming Glorious Success.

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Against the 29th ranked offense with the goalie having a great game to boot.

Let's see what happens against the 7th ranked offense and after more than one game before proclaiming Glorious Success.
Did I do that? I can't help but feel I am being intentionally misinterpreted.

He was #1 on the team in CF% (and #1 D in FF%, #2 in SF%) on a day where they got rocked in territorial play, though, so it's fair to say he was among those who had the least to do with the Flyers problems. Mez allowed 6 shots in 13 minutes.

Grossmann, on the other hand, allowed 14 shots in 18 minutes.

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So now that we saw Meszaros - Streit paired up today and lived to tell about it, would anyone have a major problem with Grossmann being the healthy scratch when Timonen comes back?
It was one game to begin with, but it was one game against probably the worst offensive team in the league right now (I know they're technically 29th) with our goalie playing out of his mind. LA is scoring at .5 goal per game pace over their last six games (including the one against us) and all of them were scored by the same player.

I don't know if San Jose is still injured out the whazoo, but chances are if you play a Meszaros-Streit pairing you're going to get burned very often considering that Meszaros seemingly single-handedly killed Luke Schenn's season up until a few games ago and was our worst D in the defensive zone pretty much every game.

Grossmann isn't playing that well lately, but literally nobody ended up being scored against in the LA game which includes him and even a poopy Grossmann is slightly better then Meszaros defensively.

EDIT: In the end it doesn't really matter that much, but the point is at least Grossmann has an established upside of much better defensive play then Meszaros and great shot blocking/PK capability. All Meszaros brings at this point is crazy offensive zone plays every once in a while (which is why I support transitioning him to wing to test him out, but that's another subject).

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This was already discussed in-depth in another thread, but Grossmann's actually the one who drags everyone else's numbers down and is 7th out of 7 Flyers D in every zone-adjusted metric, including shots, chances and goals allowed.

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This was already discussed in-depth in another thread, but Grossmann's actually the one who drags everyone else's numbers down and is 7th out of 7 Flyers D in every zone-adjusted metric, including shots, chances and goals allowed.
Read the edit I probably put in while you were posting that.

Streit and Meszaros are inherently offensively minded D so it's not smart to put them together when D is our biggest problem.

Grossmann has an upside that he has a long history of prior until recently that is more valuable then what we know Meszaros does. I'm also not getting into stats because I don't feel like it, it's a pain to look them up, and most importantly because I'm going to bed after this post but Meszaros is very visibly our worst D in the defensive zone throughout the season and Schenn has very visibly done well next to Gustafsson yet looked like complete trash when paired with Meszaros.

My opinion is we should test Meszaros out at wing at some point in time, but that's probably never going to happen.

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The problem with Grossmann (as documented with links in the other thread so you don't have to look anything up) is that he's always in the defensive zone largely because he is one the league's worst at escaping it, and this stretches back to the lockout season (which is as long as these stats have been tracked). This also leads me to suspect that Grossmann's better days weren't as good as advertised. A stay-at-home D who has so much trouble getting out of his zone has inherently low upside.

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Read the edit I probably put in while you were posting that.

Streit and Meszaros are inherently offensively minded D so it's not smart to put them together when D is our biggest problem.

Grossmann has an upside that he has a long history of prior until recently that is more valuable then what we know Meszaros does. I'm also not getting into stats because I don't feel like it, it's a pain to look them up, and most importantly because I'm going to bed after this post but Meszaros is very visibly our worst D in the defensive zone throughout the season and Schenn has very visibly done well next to Gustafsson yet looked like complete trash when paired with Meszaros.

My opinion is we should test Meszaros out at wing at some point in time, but that's probably never going to happen.
I think our biggest problem is transitioning from defense to offense, more so than our defensive play. That's what keeps us hemmed in our own zone, poor transition attempts and just plain slow players. From the stats in the Grossmann thread, it's pretty obvious he's the largest culprit behind these problems.

Mez actually has the ability to handle and move the puck and I think our play with the puck is a lot more troubling right now than our play without it. We can't keep possession, and a lot of that is from our play in our zone and the neutral zone. Forwards are cheating and defensemen are awful at moving the puck up.

I would like to see the Flyers take a different approach than the usual one stay at home D with one puck moving D pairings. We're one of the slowest teams in the league and it starts with our D. These big, hulking defensemen are getting eaten alive by strong forechecks and speedy teams. None of Schenn, Grossmann, Streit or Timonen are even an average skater.

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What day is it and what's the start time? lol

Something tells me MSE wanted to get this one out of the way so he could make time for a ladyfriend.

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That start time is just nonsense. Looks like I'll have to DVR the second half of this one.

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Sharks have been stumbling a bit as of late. They managed to only score 1 goal during their recent trip to Alberta. They have a few injuries as well. If the Flyers can steal this game, mark the Cali road trip as great success.


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The problem with Grossmann (as documented with links in the other thread so you don't have to look anything up) is that he's always in the defensive zone largely because he is one the league's worst at escaping it, and this stretches back to the lockout season (which is as long as these stats have been tracked). This also leads me to suspect that Grossmann's better days weren't as good as advertised. A stay-at-home D who has so much trouble getting out of his zone has inherently low upside.
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I think our biggest problem is transitioning from defense to offense, more so than our defensive play. That's what keeps us hemmed in our own zone, poor transition attempts and just plain slow players. From the stats in the Grossmann thread, it's pretty obvious he's the largest culprit behind these problems.

Mez actually has the ability to handle and move the puck and I think our play with the puck is a lot more troubling right now than our play without it. We can't keep possession, and a lot of that is from our play in our zone and the neutral zone. Forwards are cheating and defensemen are awful at moving the puck up.

I would like to see the Flyers take a different approach than the usual one stay at home D with one puck moving D pairings. We're one of the slowest teams in the league and it starts with our D. These big, hulking defensemen are getting eaten alive by strong forechecks and speedy teams. None of Schenn, Grossmann, Streit or Timonen are even an average skater.
When I say the problem is D I mean that in every way possible. Our defensive personnel is really shoddily put together and the ability of our team to actually play in the defensive zone is pretty bad a lot of the time.

I imagine part of the reason Grossmann is getting hemmed into his own zone is because he gets a lot of defensive zone starts compared to offensive zone ones (didn't actually look it up, it's just what would make sense to happen). If this is true (or even if it's not really) it's naturally going to lead into having a hard time getting the puck out of our zone because Grossmann can't transition well or move the puck well plus the team just isn't built to get the puck out of the zone from the D to the forwards. His strengths all have to do with his play without the puck. His pairing partner is always going to either be either Streit or Meszaros himself most likely until Timonen comes back because Grossmann can't play on the first pairing. He just can't. Neither can Meszaros.

It's not purely a problem with Grossmann which is what I'm getting at. Meszaros may have great offensive skills and may know how to move the puck and handle it, but chances are against any quality offensive team he won't be much better if at all better then Meszaros in the defensive zone because he flat-out is the anti-Grossmann in that all of his skills revolve around having the puck while he can't really do anything when he doesn't have it.

No matter how they play musical chairs with the defensive personnel it's going to look ugly one way or another. So, you know what, I'll change my mind a bit here and say I don't care if Grossmann or Meszaros play over one another. Doesn't matter to me because frankly the D is kind of screwed either way. The personnel itself isn't pretty or impressive and even beyond that it's just not put together well at all.

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Claude Giroux with a 5 point night ladies. 2 goals-3 assists. Flyers lose 9-6
Lol conservative huh?

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13years since the last win vs Sharks, is that some kind of record?

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The Flyers beating the Sharks would be the greatest Birthday gift in the history of gifts. Aside from idk, an Eagles Super Bowl win....

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I'll definitely be in the minority when I say that I love the 10:30 games! Don't have class until 345 on tuesdays/thursdays.

Sharks have a good brand name. Great arena, great fans, great announcers and the players aren't so bad to.

It's definitely going to be a tough two road points, let's see what this team is made of.

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