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02-04-2014, 10:45 AM
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Can you give more informations about Pearson? Looks like he's having an OK season in the AHL.
I'm by no means a talent scout so take my words with a grain of salt. He is a quick skater with a good shot and great hockey sense. Good with the puck.

He is pretty much the Kings' second best prospect after Toffoli. Him along with a first would be a great deal for the Habs, and getting Clifford would be the icing on top.

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Markov for Clifford, Pearson and a first pick

I would trade Gionta and Bourque for picks / prospects.

We're still small on the top 6...

FORWARDS
Max Pacioretty - David Desharnais - Brendan Gallagher
Alex Galchenyuk - Tomas Plekanec - Daniel Briere
Kyle Clifford - Lars Eller - Brandon Prust
Travis Moen - Michael Bournival - Dale Weise
Ryan White - George Parros

DEFENSEMEN
Josh Gorges - P.K. Subban
Nathan Beaulieu - Alexei Emelin
Francis Bouillon (or Tinordi) - Douglas Murray
Davis Drewiske

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Peter Budaj
That would be good!

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I would love to see a Markov for Tiffoli trade, but not sure that the kings would give up that much talent for a 35 y/o UFA...

Beauieu - Subban
Emelin - Georges
Tinordi - Pateryn

Assuming we dont sign a RHD... if we do then maybe take out Pateryn (probably not teh best idea to have 3 rookie defensemen)

Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Tiffoli
UFA - Plekanec - gallagher
Desharnais - Eller - Bournival
Moen - Prust - Weise

Would be nice to add a top six forward to play with Plekanec.

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So if we're so hell-bent on retaining Markov because the return isn't "good enough" and it's a "weak draft" then what do we do the day after the trade deadline when Markov says he wants a five year, $30 million contract?
Bergevin is dumb if he lets it get that far. He has to know right now what Markov wants. And if Markov won't say what he wants, then open up the phone lines. But you have to think they've asked, there was a lot of that talk earlier in the season, and so they should know very clearly what the parameters are on the contract front by now. There's really no excuse for not knowing.

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If they trade Markov, it sends the wrong message to the room and the fans.

To be honest, I don't know that much about Pearson and Clifford.

Previous reports talked about Toffoli for Markov.
Was about to say I would take Toffoli and a 1st. Gionta is gone we need RWers which is weak on our team after Gallagher.

How about
Markov, Moen, 3rd
Toffoli, Clifford, 1st

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02-04-2014, 10:46 AM
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I have no problem trading Markov but he is a significant asset and the Habs need to maximize our return. A player of markov's ability should garner a 1st rounder + from a bottom tier team or a package of grade A prospects, lower picks and roster players.

If LA wants him, I wouldn't move off Toffoli if I was Bergevin.
Markov is better than Kaberle and he costed the Bruins a 1st, Colbourne which was drafted around 15th overall and a conditional pick

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If we're going to trade Markov, shouldn't we at least look for a prospect that can make and help our top 6 in a close future?

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The Kings would be a great fit for Markov. Lots of talented forwards for him to find with those sweet passes. Although I'm expecting Markov to still be with the Habs after the trade deadline and be re-signed by the Habs.

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The Kings would be a great fit for Markov. Lots of talented forwards for him to find with those sweet passes. Although I'm expecting Markov to still be with the Habs after the trade deadline and be re-signed by the Habs.
He would, and I could see him staying there and playing another 2-3 years with Voynov

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I'm all for trading Markov.

We have to take the example of San Jose last year. They had key free agents in Murray and Clowe ( they were big part of their team) ans they traded them and they still made the playoffs.

Trading Markov in LA is a good idea. There's a lot of players i would like in LA.
No. No they weren't.

Murray and Clowe were both terrible for them last year. Clowe didn't score a single goal in 28 games ffs. That's DD bad.

What they didn't do is sell off Dan Boyle who is at a similar stage in his career as Markov. You don't trade top pairing defensemen. Ever. Unless you want to be Calgary.

When Markov's play actually starts to deteriorate at a serious level, then you ship him off a la Kaberle (Leafs trade). Until then, you keep him and shelter your young defensemen.

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If we're going to trade Markov, shouldn't we at least look for a prospect that can make and help our top 6 in a close future?
Pearson

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Pearson
Is NOT top 6 projected !! Do you know who he is ?

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No. No they weren't.

Murray and Clowe were both terrible for them last year. Clowe didn't score a single goal in 28 games ffs. That's DD bad.

What they didn't do is sell off Dan Boyle who is at a similar stage in his career as Markov. You don't trade top pairing defensemen. Ever. Unless you want to be Calgary.

Unless you have Subban and got good prospects coming up at that position.. Don't get me wrong I love Markov, but I don't want to lose him for nothing...

Not trading Souray Koivu Kovalev the year they left us hurt us for a while

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Would prefer Deslauriers and Nolan instead of Clifford and Pearson.
I admit I lost track of Deslauriers process. If he was an RD, he's certainly a guy I'd ask for instead of Pearson.

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Markov for Clifford, Pearson and a first pick

I would trade Gionta and Bourque for picks / prospects.

We're still small on the top 6...

FORWARDS
Max Pacioretty - David Desharnais - Brendan Gallagher
Alex Galchenyuk - Tomas Plekanec - Daniel Briere
Kyle Clifford - Lars Eller - Brandon Prust
Travis Moen - Michael Bournival - Dale Weise
Ryan White - George Parros

DEFENSEMEN
Josh Gorges - P.K. Subban
Nathan Beaulieu - Alexei Emelin
Francis Bouillon (or Tinordi) - Douglas Murray
Davis Drewiske

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price
Peter Budaj
If possible I'd also trade Brière for picks, then bump Bournival on Plecky's right wing and play White on the fourth line

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Let's have that pick in '15. LA would be scary this year with Markov, he may not be with them next year

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I admit I lost track of Deslauriers process. If he was an RD, he's certainly a guy I'd ask for instead of Pearson.
I'd rather keep Markov you need a veteran for all the young D we have coming up. Now the only way you trade him is if we get a top line forward. You tell LA, Toffoli or forget it.

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Let's say that was to happen, just an idea with all the picks and prospects we would be getting back it wouldn't be that hard for management to trade and acquire a big forward this off season say around the draft. Lots of trades happen during that time and we would have the assets to make that deal
LA's first round pick, although not in the top ten, would be more marketable in the summer than Markov. I wish the Habs had had it in the 2013 draft.

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To LA: Markov and Moen

To MTL: Pearson, Clifford and a 1st round pick in 2014

To STL: Eller

To MTL: Stewart

To COL: Bourque and Andrighetto

To MTL: McGinn


Pacioretty - Desharnais - Stewart

McGinn - Plekanec - Gallagher

Prust - Galchenyuk - Pearson/Briere

Clifford - Bournival - Weise


Gorges - Subban

Beaulieu - Girardi

Emelin - Pateryn/Tinordi

Sign: Girardi

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Is NOT top 6 projected !! Do you know who he is ?
Name me top 6 projected prospect we could get for Markov.

If this is true, you won't get better than this deal for Markov

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Markov is better than Kaberle and he costed the Bruins a 1st, Colbourne which was drafted around 15th overall and a conditional pick
Absolutely.

Look at guys like Iginla, Morrow etc last year who were both older than Markov and decreased production.

Markov should garner a huge return. If not, sign him and try again next year at the deadline. It's not like you have to let him go for nothing in the off season, he wants to be here.

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I'd rather keep Markov you need a veteran for all the young D we have coming up. Now the only way you trade him is if we get a top line forward. You tell LA, Toffoli or forget it.
Obviously, Deslauriers would come with Toffoli... Not standalone.

I really liked both as juniors.

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If we trade Markov, we must must resign Subban. Bring up Pateryn fgs. He's NHL ready.

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Please trade him. I like Markov but we need to get something for him and build this team for the future.

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Obviously, Deslauriers would come with Toffoli... Not standalone.

I really liked both as juniors.
We just need RWers. I don't want to have to resign Gionta when the only RW we have good is Gallagher.

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