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02-06-2007, 09:41 AM
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oh pls gainey do NOT bring in aucoin! i dont want this guy for 4 mil on 2 more seasons, he will only be another dissapointment! instead he should try to sign Johnsson this summer

not really interested in smolinski either,,
if we trade with chicago the easiest deal is straight up for Lapointe i would be happy with that.

otherwise package him to philly or PHX or florida
by package i mean likely with either Ryder or Perz + picks...

or trade him to detroit vs Lang

edit or even sammy and a pick vs Modin

but pls do not get Aucoin, he is not worth the coin :
You seem to overrate Samsonov value.

The only two possibilities that I think could be interesting are with Chicago and Detroit. That said, Wethreekings came with a good idea in his post. Smoke would be a good fit since we could put him on the third line with bonk and Johnson and also on the 2nd line if Pleks is in a slump.

As for Detroit, I don't know if they would have much interest. That said, we would have to add something decent to Samsonov to land Lang.

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Maybe we can trade Sammy for Steven Gerrard.
I say we go for Peter Crouch. He's a lot more versatile.

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The best thing for the cap situation is to hang on to him for the rest of the season. Come the offseason, we can see if anyone would be willing to pick him up, and if not then we can buy him out. It would only take up $1.2m for each of the next two seasons, thus freeing up $2.4m next season. With that money we might be able to re-sign Johnson or Bonk, or able to re-sign both Souray and Markov.

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Now, the bridges are burnt between him and Carbo. Too late. He must go.
The decision is not Carbo's to make. Gainey will decide if he goes or stays. I'd rather stick with him then to be forced into a trade. That is never a good situation for the team, and that is all that really matters. The good of the team has to take precedence over Carbo's/Sammy's feelings imho.

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In a perfect world, sure. Unfortunately that's all pretty irrelevant if Samsonov demands a trade. What are we going to do, force him to go out there and play?
If he doesn't go out there and play, it's breach of contract. I don't think the Habs are willing to take a Malakhov-type hit on a trade just to get Samsonov out of the city. IMO, that's what it's going to take.

Samsonov and our 1st round pick for a warm body and their 2nd round pick.

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I'll say this ... Gainey will probably put Samsonov through Waivers and I beleive there is no way in Banana-Rama Sammy will go to the AHL.

Suspending Sammy automatically frees up his salary = clean up another million .

and the Habs have '' space ''

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Samsonov wants out of Montréal, well that makes two of us, I want Sergei out of town as well.

He can piss and moan about being shuffled from line to line and about being benched (fairly or unfairly) but the fact is he didn't deliver. In a league where speedy and skilled players are flourishing this clown has taken two steps backwards. His low percentage shots (when he even bothers to take them), east/west peripheral play and his penchant for trying one too many dekes simply won't cut it (especially when he and the team are struggling). It would appear he also likes to voice his displeasure through the media, a trait sure to endear him with management. If Gainey wasn't known for taking the high road the proper response would be to let this chump read he's been put on waivers in the newspaper.


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In a perfect world, sure. Unfortunately that's all pretty irrelevant if Samsonov demands a trade. What are we going to do, force him to go out there and play?
They don't have to force him to do anything...if his name's in the lineup, he has to play.

The Habs don't have to trade him, and I hope they don't right now considering this value is at the lowest it can be...

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Have you seen him play this year? I take it by your statement you haven't.
I was sarcastic!! Because one poster (....22) said that to prove a point at the beginning of the season.....

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02-06-2007, 09:52 AM
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trade idea: Sammy, prospect(goalie prospect-Halak) , 1st for Nagy,Morris. Sammy won't be traded without some extra incentives involved(1st round pick)

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trade idea: Sammy, prospect(goalie prospect-Halak) , 1st for Nagy,Morris. Sammy won't be traded without some extra incentives involved(1st round pick)
Wouldn't want to give up a 1st round pick for Nagy/Morris..... would only give up a 1st round pick if getting an impact player like Forsberg, otherwise keep it.

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Oh well. I'm not too saddened at all.

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They don't have to force him to do anything...if his name's in the lineup, he has to play.

The Habs don't have to trade him, and I hope they don't right now considering this value is at the lowest it can be...
Okay "play" is relative (and not to be taken literally) but how much better do you think he'll be if he publically demands a trade and then we play him regardless?

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Wouldn't want to give up a 1st round pick for Nagy/Morris..... would only give up a 1st round pick if getting an impact player like Forsberg, otherwise keep it.
Have fun trying to get rid of Sammy without some extra incentive. Forsberg impact is only going to be made by way of the injury ward.

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great news! and if we're lucky we'll get something fine for him...

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Well, that bodes well for all the UFAs who'll check Montreal as a destination in the future.
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It ain't the Montreal Canadiens' fault that Sergei Samsonov has seemingly forgotten how to score goals. He got top-two-lines ice-time for big chunks of this season and has done diddly spit with it 9 games out of every 10. If some other UFA wants to look at that and decide he doesn't want to play here, then he ain't the type we'd want anyway.

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I say we go for Peter Crouch. He's a lot more versatile.

http://www.abric.org/humour/serie_sp...s_peter_crouch

Nah, I say we trade Sammy for Rooney, or maybe Saha. Lots of offense, and grit.



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Have fun trying to get rid of Sammy without some extra incentive. Forsberg impact is only going to be made by way of the injury ward.
Someone will take him, someone always does. Look at Theodore, if I had told you Gainey would trade Theodore and his fat contract and get a decent return without giving up anything else, would you have believed me?

You'll see, Gainey will be able to get something for Samsonov or include him in a package.

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Okay "play" is relative (and not to be taken literally) but how much better do you think he'll be if he publically demands a trade and then we play him regardless?
First of all, i'm not convinced Samsonov wants to leave Montreal moreso than he wants to play.

However, if he wants to be traded, he'll have to play and play better and that's up to him.

Gainey isn't going to move him because his agent had a few comments in the media.

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I'll say this ... Gainey will probably put Samsonov through Waivers and I beleive there is no way in Banana-Rama Sammy will go to the AHL.

Suspending Sammy automatically frees up his salary = clean up another million .

and the Habs have '' space ''
Hell put him on re-entry waivers, too. Picking up half the tab isn't a terrible deal, either. That would be a $1.8m cap hit next season.. only $0.6 more than if we bought him out, only without the hit the following season.

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I'd trade Sammy and dump Kovalev for anything I can get, and try to rebuild with people who actually work every game. I don't care what Kovy can do in the playoffs, he shows the wrong example almost every game to our younger guys.

And I am amazed Sammy never got to play with Koivu o_O

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Have fun trying to get rid of Sammy without some extra incentive. Forsberg impact is only going to be made by way of the injury ward.
Just cause you pour syrup on ****, don't make it pancakes

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Someone will take him, someone always does. Look at Theodore, if I had told you Gainey would trade Theodore and his fat contract and get a decent return without giving up anything else, would you have believed me?

You'll see, Gainey will be able to get something for Samsonov or include him in a package.
The problem is there's only so many suckers out there.

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First of all, i'm not convinced Samsonov wants to leave Montreal moreso than he wants to play.

However, if he wants to be traded, he'll have to play and play better and that's up to him.

Gainey isn't going to move him because his agent had a few comments in the media.
By all means, I hope you're right.

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I'd trade Sammy and dump Kovalev for anything I can get, and try to rebuild with people who actually work every game. I don't care what Kovy can do in the playoffs, he shows the wrong example almost every game to our younger guys.

And I am amazed Sammy never got to play with Koivu o_O
There's the real albatross contract the Habs are carrying

2 more years of Kovalev ouch.

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