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02-06-2007, 12:53 PM
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No you still need Orr for the big boys McGrattan, Brashear, Belak, Laraque to name a few. Avery is only 5'9-5'10' 185 lbs.
Hollweg - Avery - Orr

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he's making 3.525$ a year (according to nhlnumbers.com)..

and, he's 5'8"? thats tiny.. i dont know much about him, but already have our share of tiny wingers.. (Prucha, Dawes, et al)

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he's making 3.525$ a year (according to nhlnumbers.com)..

and, he's 5'8"? thats tiny.. i dont know much about him, but already have our share of tiny wingers.. (Prucha, Dawes, et al)
If we can only Rid ourselfes of Ozolinsh's cap hit! grrrrr

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Mistake...? ? ?

People who work for Tsn are drunks....

TSN staff doesn't even know what day it is...


"Samsonov was placed on waivers by the Canadiens Wednesday afternoon."

"Montreal hosts the Carolina Hurricanes Wednesday.

Today is Tuesday.

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Mistake...? ? ?

People who work for Tsn are drunks....

TSN staff doesn't even know what day it is...


"Samsonov was placed on waivers by the Canadiens Wednesday afternoon."

"Montreal hosts the Carolina Hurricanes Wednesday.

Today is Tuesday.
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02-06-2007, 01:03 PM
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Samsonov is on waivers

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Sportsnet has learned that the Montreal Canadiens have placed forward Sergei Samsonov on waivers
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/artic...06_122214_5340

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02-06-2007, 01:12 PM
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No. Talented, but too expensive (never matter here), inefficient (this season), lazy with bad attitude. Looks like good fit for NYR, LOL.

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02-06-2007, 01:16 PM
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No to Samsanov...

would rather have Prucha and Straka on the left side than him and lack a second line centerman - further, wouldn't want the cap hit. I've watched a good deal of Montreal's games this season, and he hasn't been good at all.

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02-06-2007, 01:29 PM
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Hollweg - Avery - Orr

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i've been thinking about line of punishment as well. If Orr improved on his defensive and skating game, that could be one annoying shut-down line. He could be the Mike Peluso of a Ranger's Crash-line.

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02-06-2007, 01:41 PM
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He's not the same player he was a few years ago. Although he was okay last year. But something has changed...I don't know. Maybe the injuries? I've read that they're saying he has like 25% body fat or something crazy like that. Really out of shape.

I also read that he's become more of a perimeter player who is reluctant to go towards the net. Now I know he was never a net-crashing power forward, but I do recall seeing him use his incredible shiftiness and stickhandling to weave his way into the slot to create scoring chances. If he's completely stopped doing that now then that's definitely a problem.

The team needs a 2nd line center, not another LW. If I were an NHL GM I'd stay away from Samsonov this year with the bad season he's having. Then wait to see what happens over the summer. Maybe if he gets himself in shape and rediscovers his drive over the summer then you take a chance on him by trading for him or signing him if Montreal buys him out. Or waives him again. But he's not what the Rangers need.

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02-06-2007, 01:59 PM
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what all of you forget is that SAMSONOV IS A CENTER!

Samsonov played Center most of his career with Boston!

I would love to take him...the problem is the teams ahead of us in waiver priority would probably grab him

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02-06-2007, 02:03 PM
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He's not worth the 3.5 mil hit.

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02-06-2007, 02:04 PM
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what all of you forget is that SAMSONOV IS A CENTER!

Samsonov played Center most of his career with Boston!

I would love to take him...the problem is the teams ahead of us in waiver priority would probably grab him
I don't think he ever played center in Boston. During his time there they had guys like Jason Allison, Joe Thornton, Tim Taylor, Brian Rolston, Jozef Stumpel and for a short time Nylander at center. Samsonov was a left wing.

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02-06-2007, 02:08 PM
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I don't remember Samsonov...

as a center with Boston...I remember Allison, Thornton and even Stumpel, but not Samsonov.

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So funny how a career can decline so fast.

This is why I never get too bent out of shape over who makes the NHL first or when a guy even makes the NHL at all.

In the end even a guy who nets 70 points as a 24 year old could be a waiver guy within a few seasons.

Just something to keep in mind for all of us.

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02-06-2007, 02:28 PM
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not even a question....

No, Prucha and Dawes can't manage any meaningful icetime as it is so we don't need to add another top 6 winger when the Rangers still need a pivot...
Agreed... This guy was waived for a reason. He's obviously not producing and he would be a horrible fit here. Just wasting ice time that are more deserving for guys such as Prucha.

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Samsonov is a wing. In his best years he was "Jarg lite" both in terms of his game as well as body weight. No one ever consider him as a solution to 2C vacancy on NYR. The can hardly skate as a wing this season. Centre is much more demanding position as far as intensity...
Besides Sather already solved 2C problem for the Rangers. We've got Avery.

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94...

this team could use a 'Jagr Lite' on its second line - I do agree with everything you said.

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So funny how a career can decline so fast.

This is why I never get too bent out of shape over who makes the NHL first or when a guy even makes the NHL at all.In the end even a guy who nets 70 points as a 24 year old could be a waiver guy within a few seasons.

Just something to keep in mind for all of us.
Something you should bring up when discussing Jessiman...Oh wait a second...

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Something that should be brougth up when discussing Jessiman..
In fairness though I don't think you'd hear those comments associated with Jessiman if he actually looked like he was getting significantly better.

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I would claim Samsonov...


It reminds me when Straka was on waivers from the Islanders...

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You have to take him!!!!!!

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Talented and I wouldn't be worried about his salary because we can always waive him. Not sure how much cap room we have but I think it's somewhere around 5-6 million? And isn't that counting Ozolinsh?

But, does he really fit on this team? I don't think so. He's small and doesn't play physical. Also doesn't play center.

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I would claim Samsonov...


It reminds me when Straka was on waivers from the Islanders...
The salary in a capped world is my concern. Without the cap I think you see teams go for him but that salary cap really changes a lot of approaches.

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Samsonov having Nylander as his center would do WORLDS for him. Thats the type of guy he eneds..

Straka-Avery-Jagr
Samsonov-Nylander-Shanahan
Prucha-Cullen-ortmeyer
Hollweg-Betts-Hossa

OMG....WE CAN ACTUALLY ROLL 4 LINES..NO WAY!!!!

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