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02-06-2007, 03:55 PM
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I agree. I'm Sather's biggest critic but there's a big difference trading for a 34 year old with bad feet and a 26 year old like Avery.

You can question how much cap space he'll eat up next year if we keep him, thus perhaps hindering our chance to secure a free agent like Drury, but at least Avery's best days aren't behind him, like too many players we've picked up over the years.
But not all that recently....Not being a smartass, but glad you see the benfits in Avery eventhoug prospectgs were traded..

And I wouldn't worry too much about cap space next year..The Cap grows a few million at least..Andwe are in pretty good shape as it is...Guys like OZO and Kaspar will probably be off the books (even ifthey have to stay in the minors)..As will Weekes, my bet..And maybe we see some of those low-cost kids everybody wants...

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Somehow I think this belongs in the thread already started....
Seriously. What is with the recent trend that people need to start their own thread about an ongoing topic of discussion?

This is the end of merging threads and asking posters for their help on the subject: http://hfboards.com/announcement.php?f=24&a=169

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I basically agree with your post. People do need to realize that we have the worst forward prospecst out of any team in the league. I'm no prospect expert, but come on. I mean, Cliche is considered one of our top offensive prospects, and we just traded him for Sean Avery. Give me a break. We have a few young defensemen, a trade bait goaltender and that's it. We have drafted so poorly that if we do play "the kids" we wont make the playoffs with them anymore than with some geezers, a couple young d-men and a young goalie. We have been the worst organization of the last ten years and will continue to be under Glen Sather.

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02-06-2007, 03:58 PM
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Who's begging?

Man thats a weird word. Say begging like 25 times in a row.
Its like it has no meaning after that...

Begging
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OT, but reminds me of the Dog food commercial.....Bacon...Bacon...Bacon.....I smell Bacon...

Oh well, just a brief respite from The Battle of the Rebuild Version 972

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I basically agree with your post. People do need to realize that we have the worst forward prospecst out of any team in the league. I'm no prospect expert, but come on. I mean, Cliche is considered one of our top offensive prospects, and we just traded him for Sean Avery. Give me a break. We have a few young defensemen, a trade bait goaltender and that's it. We have drafted so poorly that if we do play "the kids" we wont make the playoffs with them anymore than with some geezers, a couple young d-men and a young goalie. We have been the worst organization of the last ten years and will continue to be under Glen Sather.
That's not what Don Maloney said. Did you miss his interview on the FAN?

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I basically agree with your post. People do need to realize that we have the worst forward prospecst out of any team in the league. I'm no prospect expert, but come on. I mean, Cliche is considered one of our top offensive prospects, and we just traded him for Sean Avery. Give me a break. We have a few young defensemen, a trade bait goaltender and that's it. We have drafted so poorly that if we do play "the kids" we wont make the playoffs with them anymore than with some geezers, a couple young d-men and a young goalie. We have been the worst organization of the last ten years and will continue to be under Glen Sather.
I'm one of the few that wants to hold off a bit on the kids, but not becasue they suck...At forward, I actually think we have some good depth in the likes of Callahan, Dawes, Dubinsky, Moore?, Pyatt, Dupont, Byers and a few others...The problem is there is no top liner in the making...Great depth but we might be lucky if we get one or two 2nd liners out of it....OTOH, Having Montoya to go with Lundqvist in goal is as good as you get for young goalis, but I'm sure we draft one this coming year...And D aint that bad at all with Staal, Sauer, Snanguietti, Baranka and a few others...not the best system in the league, but it has made progress...

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02-06-2007, 04:07 PM
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But not all that recently....Not being a smartass, but glad you see the benfits in Avery eventhoug prospectgs were traded..

And I wouldn't worry too much about cap space next year..The Cap grows a few million at least..Andwe are in pretty good shape as it is...Guys like OZO and Kaspar will probably be off the books (even ifthey have to stay in the minors)..As will Weekes, my bet..And maybe we see some of those low-cost kids everybody wants...
Unfortunately I have so little faith in Sather that all of a sudden I think Cliche must have been the brightest prospect in our organization. He has a knack for trading prospects away who turn out to be good.

But I was vehemtly opposed to trading youth for Forsberg, not any possible trade out there.

I think the Rangers need a guy with some jam. But I also think Renney is absolutely the wrong coach for a guy like Avery, I don't see Renney being able to harness and focus his aggressiveness properly. Maybe Shanahan can do it, but not Renney.

I wonder how Avery is going to react when he sees Jagr gliding all over the ice while Avery is busting his butt the whole game? Yep, should be an interesting locker room!

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1. The "rebuild" consisted of one trade deadline. Nothing more.

2. Avery is 27. Acquiring him doesn't signal the end of a rebuild (if one actually believes there ewver was one in place). The refusal to deal off vets last year and the signing of so many more last offseason are better indicators than the acquisition of Avery.

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Seriously. What is with the recent trend that people need to start their own thread about an ongoing topic of discussion?

This is the end of merging threads and asking posters for their help on the subject: http://hfboards.com/announcement.php?f=24&a=169
I thought up my post last night, way before this topic was created. I didnt make it solely to spam.

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Larry...

I thought there was more to bacon. As it ending with a big BACONNNN.

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