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02-07-2014, 05:55 PM
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I think the new euro might be Fedor Malykhin.

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02-07-2014, 06:01 PM
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Kings fans are eagerly awaiting Prohorkin's return for the 2014-2015 season, when he gets out of his KHL contract. We've been missing 1st round picks because of trades in the past few years (Tanner Pearson excepted) so we need to hold on to what top-end prospects we have.
Funny, basically don't want to give up any prospect with any semblance of NHL potential. Good luck with that.

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02-07-2014, 06:02 PM
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Well are we reading too much into Stauffer's offhanded "Europe" comment though?

I mean was he just pondering or do you think he had some real insight when he made that comment?

Hard to know I suppose... but the fact he specifically mentioned Europe does somewhat seem like he might know "something" as most people would tend to concentrate on roster players and more "immediate" assets available in the here and now in NA.
Absolutely not. I remember bringing it up last year when Stauffer made a comment early last season (February i believe) that there was a former Oilers d-man playing in Russia that management could possibly bring in the next year. I made the conclusion that he was either talking about Grebeshkov or Tarnstrom in my post and sure enough, Grebeshkov was signed in the offseason.

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Anyone catch Oilers Now today?

He said in the offseason the Oilers will try to sign a puck moving defenceman. As of the moment, Justin Schultz and Jeff Petry are the only 2 true puck movers. He thinks we need 3-4 by the start of the next season.
His quote was something along the lines of:
"If they're lucky, they'll get a guy like Mark Streit. If not, they might have to sign a guy from Europe that's played for this team in the past. Remember that (or 'Keep that in mind')"

That's not word for word, but its pretty damn close.

There is but 2 puck-moving defencemen from the past Oilers that is currently playing in Europe:

Denis Grebeshkov, Age 29
He actually put up really nice numbers in his last 2 years in Edmonton (39 pts in 72 games, 19 pts in 47 games) but then only has 7 points in his 41 games this year, and 8 in 46 last year. Both in KHL.

Dick Tarnstrom, Age 38
Must have been or currently injured as he's played 6 games this year, but last year put up a respectable 26 points in 46 games in the SEL. Based on his age, I think Grebeshkov is the more likely candidate.

Daniel Tjarqvist is also playing in Europe, but was he considered a puck-moving defenceman? Hadn't had more than 15 assists in an NHL season.


Are the Oilers really considering signing Denis Grebeshkov? Does he have ties in Edmonton?
And that was 5 months before the signing.


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02-07-2014, 06:02 PM
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Holmgren, Hextall, and the Flyers head pro scout all at the game.

I'm guessing they're not there to scout Devils players.....
Philly has always seemed like a better trade partner than LA. Deep enough to pull a C-for-C trade.

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02-07-2014, 06:03 PM
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This.

When I hear LA Kings fans/Bloggers/Media talk....

"LA is very interested in Gagner, as long as it's for almost free and the Oilers hold salary."

Oilers fans are all..

"Toffoli? Muzzin? Vey? Brown?"

Kings answer..

"No, we will only give you the 4th liner and maybe a 3rd. Your guy sucks and has no value."

Then why do they want him?
It would appear they dont.

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Stauffer has mentioned Nashville as a possibility for Sam Gagner twice in the last week.

He'd be a replacement for David Legwand, who is a UFA this summer and could be dealt by the deadline.

Who would we get back? Colin Wilson? Craig Smith? Ryan Ellis? Any idea?

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02-07-2014, 06:20 PM
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Philly has always seemed like a better trade partner than LA. Deep enough to pull a C-for-C trade.
I'm guessing the Flyers aren't looking at Samuel or Hemsky.,

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02-07-2014, 06:21 PM
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Stauffer has mentioned Nashville as a possibility for Sam Gagner twice in the last week.

He'd be a replacement for David Legwand, who is a UFA this summer and could be dealt by the deadline.

Who would we get back? Colin Wilson? Craig Smith? Ryan Ellis? Any idea?
It makes sense. Smith and Wilson are both bigger than Gagner but neither plays a "tough" game.

I'd also say both are better players...

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02-07-2014, 06:28 PM
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Stauffer has mentioned Nashville as a possibility for Sam Gagner twice in the last week.

He'd be a replacement for David Legwand, who is a UFA this summer and could be dealt by the deadline.

Who would we get back? Colin Wilson? Craig Smith? Ryan Ellis? Any idea?
I actually like Craig Smith, I think he has some decent potential. Problem is, why would they move one their offensive producing young guys?

Colin Wilson was intriguing coming out of the draft, and a change of scenery could help, but where do we play an under performing LW(former C) who doesn't really play a powerforward game though he was touted to play one when coming out.

Ryan Ellis adds more of the same problem we have on our backend.

Not sure I see a fit.

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02-07-2014, 06:30 PM
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Stauffer has mentioned Nashville as a possibility for Sam Gagner twice in the last week.

He'd be a replacement for David Legwand, who is a UFA this summer and could be dealt by the deadline.

Who would we get back? Colin Wilson? Craig Smith? Ryan Ellis? Any idea?
By the sounds of it, he mentioned a 'big LW' coming back. That's Colin Wilson. He may not play physical, but he fits the description most. Craig Smith would actually be a good #2C for us as only Legwand's got more points than him among forwards, but as I said, Stauffer hinted at Wilson.

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I actually like Craig Smith, I think he has some decent potential. Problem is, why would they move one their offensive producing young guys?

Colin Wilson was intriguing coming out of the draft, and a change of scenery could help, but where do we play an under performing LW(former C) who doesn't really play a powerforward game though he was touted to play one when coming out.

Ryan Ellis adds more of the same problem we have on our backend.

Not sure I see a fit.
The value of Samuel is clearly Clifford plus something.

I'm guessing Spaling plus a pick.

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02-07-2014, 06:31 PM
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By the sounds of it, he mentioned a 'big LW' coming back. That's Colin Wilson. He may not play physical, but he fits the description most.
If MacTavish can con Poille again and get Wilson for Gagner, wow....

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02-07-2014, 06:37 PM
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I don't really see why anyone thought there would be trades made on this day. The only way I could see this day having any impact would be if the trade involved any players named to their country's Olympic team. Otherwise, teams are just trading for a player they'll have to pay and take a cap hit for during the 3 week period of the Olympic break where the player can't play or even practice for them.
Players can start practicing with their teams on February 19 but the teams can't start trading again until February 24 so it would give a team five days with a player during a time when a lot of clubs will be holding in-season mini-camps so it could be seen as a good time to integrate the player with your club.

Clearly that wasn't enough of an incentive to trigger any major deals, however.

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02-07-2014, 06:38 PM
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The value of Samuel is clearly Clifford plus something.

I'm guessing Spaling plus a pick.
I can see Colin Wilson a possibility of coming back. Get someone with possible top-6 potential. Try to get out his physical game at the very least.

I can see us having to take a guy like Viktor Stalberg for salary purposes too. Not sure how I feel about that return.

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I can see Colin Wilson a possibility of coming back. Get someone with possible top-6 potential. Try to get out his physical game at the very least.

I can see us having to take a guy like Viktor Stalberg for salary purposes too. Not sure how I feel about that return.
I agree that we'd need to eat salary or sweeten the deal but Stalberg has a NTC.

If Nashville is dumb enough to trade Wilson for Gagner, would be a homerun for MacT.

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Why is MacT so adamant about having 48 contracts?

We have several UFA's who might be shipped out at the deadline. Does MacT have some tricks up his sleeve such as eating a contract with something nice for garbage?

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Why is MacT so adamant about having 48 contracts?

We have several UFA's who might be shipped out at the deadline. Does MacT have some tricks up his sleeve such as eating a contract with something nice for garbage?
Pretty funny, really.

Stauffer was talking about this potential deal with LA and how the Oilers would have to include a minor-league player so that the contracts evened out. But wasn't the whole point of being at 48 in the first place was to accommodate deals like these?

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I agree that we'd need to eat salary or sweeten the deal but Stalberg has a NTC.

If Nashville is dumb enough to trade Wilson for Gagner, would be a homerun for MacT.
What do you see in Colin Wilson if you don't mind me asking?

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Stauffer has mentioned Nashville as a possibility for Sam Gagner twice in the last week.

He'd be a replacement for David Legwand, who is a UFA this summer and could be dealt by the deadline.

Who would we get back? Colin Wilson? Craig Smith? Ryan Ellis? Any idea?
Nashville makes a lot of sense.

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What do you see in Colin Wilson if you don't mind me asking?
Yeah, honestly he's softer than Gagner.

I have no interest in Wilson.

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Why is MacT so adamant about having 48 contracts?

We have several UFA's who might be shipped out at the deadline. Does MacT have some tricks up his sleeve such as eating a contract with something nice for garbage?
Most likely they want to leave an open space or two for a College free agent signing.

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Philly has always seemed like a better trade partner than LA. Deep enough to pull a C-for-C trade.
It seems like there has been an ongoing thing between EDM and PHI since the draft.....always some rumours popping up between the 2

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What do you see in Colin Wilson if you don't mind me asking?
1. Coached by Barry Trotz and one of the premier coaching staffs in hockey.
2. Not huge but big...thick built kid.
3. Decent skill
4. Plays in a system that does not promote offensive creativity.

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Pretty funny, really.

Stauffer was talking about this potential deal with LA and how the Oilers would have to include a minor-league player so that the contracts evened out. But wasn't the whole point of being at 48 in the first place was to accommodate deals like these?
Haven't the Oilers used neither of their two free buyouts? I could see MacT taking advantage of that.

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Haven't the Oilers used neither of their two free buyouts? I could see MacT taking advantage of that.
They used one on Belanger.

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