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02-07-2014, 05:50 PM
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Hart Trophy worthy season without winning one.

What are the seasons you guys think player had Hart worthy season without winning one. It could be cause some other had ridiculous year (Jagr vs. hasek) or close decision ( Ovechkin vs. Crosby ). Try to think about years when certain player had a year what was Hart worthy, but due to extreme circumstances didin't win.

Lemieux and his 199 season stands out like a sore thumb.

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02-07-2014, 05:55 PM
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Al Rollins would have won the 1953 Hart for dragging a terrible Chicago team into the playoffs, except that was the year that Gordie Howe shattered all the records. Then the writers seemed to reward Rollins with the 1954 Hart for his previous season, robbing Red Kelly, who by multiple accounts, was the best player in 1954.

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Luongo in 2006/07.

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Luongo in 2006/07.
Brodeur in 2006/07

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Crosby last year and Crosby in 2010/2011, both due to injury although Sid still was robbed last year.

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Luongo in 2006/07.
Yeah I can agree with this. Luongo was literally on his own that year.

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Brodeur in 2006/07
Lou should've had the Vezina too. I thought Brodeur deserved it based on setting the wins record, but MS made a few posts detailing how much more difficult and impressive Luongo's season was and won me over.

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Bourque in 1990 and Jagr in 2006 immediately come to mind.

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Yeah I can agree with this. Luongo was literally on his own that year.
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Lou should've had the Vezina too. I thought Brodeur deserved it based on setting the wins record, but MS made a few posts detailing how much more difficult and impressive Luongo's season was and won me over.
MS's post cherrypicked stats that made Luongo look better*. Yes, Luongo faced more PPs, but he also played in the lower scoring conference, contributed nothing to shot prevention, and played behind a better group of defensemen.

*By that, I'm not saying that was MS's intention. For some reason, it was fairly common practice at the time for stats people to look at the effect that penalties had on save %, while ignoring other confounds.

(By the standards that usually go into winning the Hart - if the best forward's season is good enough, he should win it - Crosby was a deserving winner)


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Crosby last year and Crosby in 2010/2011, both due to injury although Sid still was robbed last year.
Using that logic (Not having a go at you), Ovechkin 2009-10 easily.

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Lafleur in 78-79. With injuries to Lemaire, Shutt and Robinson, Lafleur had to carry most of the offensive load all season. His assists alone tied the next highest scorer on the team. Trottier won that year and while he certainly deserved credit, his supporting cast had little injuries.

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You were reading my mind number 10-and you stole what I was going to write

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jagr in 2005-2006

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Luongo has a much better case for 2003-04 than 2006-07.

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Patrick Roy 2001-2002 he had statistically his best year of his career Forsberg missed the entire campaign with injuries, Sakic got hurt aswell but he somehow lost the Vezina and Hart to Theodore.

Also Ryan Miller basically was the Sabres in 2009-2010 and should have won over Sedin

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Luongo has a much better case for 2003-04 than 2006-07.
Heck, let's give him both!

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Iginla in 2001-2002
Lemieux in 1988-1989
Bourque in 1989-1990
Jagr in 2005-2006

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Phil Esposito in 1973 - Orr misses some time and Esposito still makes a mockery of the scoring race. Maybe they were a little jaded of him by then

Bobby Orr in 1975 - A defenseman scoring 46 goals and winning the Art Ross on a 94 point team you would think would seal it. It didn't.

Marcel Dionne in 1980 - I still would have given it to Gretzky, but Dionne gets 137 points too, the highest of his career - and centers the best line in hockey

Mario Lemieux in 1989 - 'nuff said

Wayne Gretzky in 1991 - I would have voted for him

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Doug Gilmour in 1993. Couldn't beat Mario in his comeback that year.

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I feel like Lidstrom easily could have taken it in '06.

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Jagr in 05-06.
Lemieux in 88-89.
Turco for both the Hart and Vezina in 02-03.

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Jagr in 05-06.
Lemieux in 88-89.
Turco for both the Hart and Vezina in 02-03.
You know, I get that there is a save % case for Turco to win the Vezina in 2003, but no goalie is ever going to be a serious Hart candidate only playing 55 games

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Doug Gilmour in 1993. Couldn't beat Mario in his comeback that year.
By the definition of the award - he should have.

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By the definition of the award - he should have.
There's no way he deserved it over Lemieux.

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By the definition of the award - he should have.
And herein lies the problem. I'm sure many of the voters have their own conceptions of the award over the years.

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