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02-07-2007, 12:54 PM
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I'm not a fan of the 1 goal game stat. Have games with empty netters been counted in the 1 goal game category?

IMO, it's really only a one goal game if it was solved in OT.

The Sens could easily have 20 one goal victories if they spent the last 10 seconds of a 2+ goal game filling their own net until it was close. (I know that might be a little extreme)

If anything, the 1 goal game stat shows me that the Sens are competitive in the games that they are beaten.

I'm not saying the Sens are great in tight games (last year's Sabres series come to mind.... 3 OT losses is brutal) but there has to be a better way to measure it stats wise.
Well, conceivably looking at 1 and 2 goal games would account for empty net goals, as Roy G Biv did.

It's rare to make a 3-goal deficit via empty net.

I agree with respect to the perception of close games, as its an argument that was made repeatedly last year.

Ottawa with the lead tends to extend the lead, thanks to our firepower and the opposing team gambling and making mistakes.

Ottawa rarely gets blown out in the same fashion, leading to many one-goal losses.

There's always a story behind the stats.

In terms of fortitude, we're 4th in the league in coming back while trailing after 1 (5-8-0, .385) but 22nd while trailing after 2 (2-16-2, .100).

I find that trailing after 2 statistic to be somewhat frustrating as we're supposed to have the kind of firepower to eliminate deficits late in games. That's what having a high-powered offense is supposed to be all about: the ability to strike fast and turn a game around.

By comparison, New Jersey is 11th after 1 (4-5-3, .333) and 5th after 2 (4-10-2, .250).

The top teams with respect to this trailing after 2 statistic are Detroit, Buffalo, Montreal, Tampa Bay, Dallas, all good teams.


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02-07-2007, 12:59 PM
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In terms of fortitude, we're 4th in the league in coming back while trailing after 1 (5-8-0, .385) but 20th while trailing after 2 (2-16-2, .100).
Nice find! I find it odd that getting 6 points while trailing after 2 is 20th. At least we aren't the only team that isn't good at it!

I think we can take a little pride in knowing that Jersey has only lost by 4+ goals once, and it was to us!

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02-07-2007, 01:02 PM
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Nice find! I find it odd that getting 6 points while trailing after 2 is 20th. At least we aren't the only team that isn't good at it!
Detroit has mustered 15 points trailing after 2, Montreal a whopping 18 points.

It drops off a fair ways after them.

EDIT: And it's 22nd, not 20th, my mistake (by winning percentage).

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I think we can take a little pride in knowing that Jersey has only lost by 4+ goals once, and it was to us!
I know Devils fans haven't forgotten about it.

At the time, I didn't think it was that big a deal.

Every team has bad games...except the Devils apparently, who only have bad game.

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02-07-2007, 01:35 PM
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I guess one could also say that other teams are pretty competitive against New Jersey as well so despite its W% right now, the team is 1 bad mistake from losing so a series with New Jersey could go either way...even though many people want to avoid NJ in the standings.....

Nice stats, Nyquil.

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Im more worried about getting greater production from our secondary scoring. I am starting to get the feeling that we win when Alfy, Heatley or Spezza scores. When we don't, we have a problem bagging two points. I hope this changes and soon!

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02-07-2007, 02:13 PM
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The Atlantic division is significantly worse than the northeast.

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02-07-2007, 02:14 PM
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The Atlantic division is significantly worse than the northeast.
So bad that the southeast has won two stanley cups in two years.

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So bad that the southeast has won two stanley cups in two years.
That would be a great argument if we were talking about the southeast. Unfortunately for you, we aren't.

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02-07-2007, 08:34 PM
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Ottawa is 9-3 vs. the Atlantic
Toronto is 4-5
Montreal is 6-6
Buffalo is 10-3
Boston 4-5

Total record 33-22

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02-07-2007, 11:42 PM
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6-13 in one goal games.

My honest opinion is that this team isn't going far in the playoffs.

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That would be a great argument if we were talking about the southeast. Unfortunately for you, we aren't.
Oops... haha. It was late at night

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We can add one more 1-goal game to Nyquils stats after our loss to Buffalo. Moreover, neither Heatley, Spezza or Alfredsson scored. We had to rely upon McAmmond and Schaefer for our offence.

Our offence needs to get some spark in it... badly.

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02-08-2007, 11:00 AM
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I will never believe the one-goal game stat. A much better stat for measuring performance in close games is record in games tied after two periods. Or record in games where trailing by one after two periods, or something like that. Of course I would never include overtimes since they are a joke with the loser point and penalty shots to decide the game...

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I will never believe the one-goal game stat. A much better stat for measuring performance in close games is record in games tied after two periods. Or record in games where trailing by one after two periods, or something like that. Of course I would never include overtimes since they are a joke with the loser point and penalty shots to decide the game...
I did a post last year and in games where we were tied, leading by one or losing by one when going into the third we had a very good record. We were almost .500 when down by one goal.

The "one-goal game" stat got really skewed last year because we almost always scored empty-netters to put the game away.

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