HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

new lines in practice...

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-08-2007, 03:13 PM
  #26
Nich
Registered User
 
Nich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wantagh
Country: Croatia
Posts: 6,895
vCash: 500


i say we suit her up as jagr's center

Nich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:14 PM
  #27
bleedrngrblue
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fayetteville,N.C.
Country: United States
Posts: 792
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melrose_Jr. View Post
I won't go that far, but I'd rather see Straka there than Krog, and I'm not a fan of Straka at center.

It would be hard to argue that Immonen is a downgrade on anybody other than Nylander right now.
You don't think that Betts would work better than Krog in that line scenario. I think he could do some good things with Hossa and Jagr to the left and right of him.

bleedrngrblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:15 PM
  #28
DontStaal
Registered User
 
DontStaal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Country: United States
Posts: 1,750
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nich View Post


i say we suit her up as jagr's center
permission to salivate

DontStaal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:17 PM
  #29
HockeyBasedNYC
Registered User
 
HockeyBasedNYC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Here
Country: United States
Posts: 12,957
vCash: 500
And finally Renney is breaking up Shanny and Jagr on the PP and holy ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hes putting Cullen at the point on the second unit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WOW!!!

HockeyBasedNYC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:17 PM
  #30
RGY
(Jagr68NYR94Leetch)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 8,542
vCash: 500
I'm ok with Hossa playing with Jagr because he has the skill to play with him. But Krog, even though I like him and think he's done a serviceable job here so far, he whiffed on way too many rebound chances the other night against the Devils to be centering Jags.

RGY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:19 PM
  #31
ftyutin51
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Huntington Bay, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,733
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nich View Post
seriously....the only reason i wish i could go to the garden right now......hell i'll fight avery for her
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/...20Elisha&seq=8

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ert-toro-1.jpg

pretty cute

ftyutin51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:21 PM
  #32
Larry Melnyk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Gloomsville, USA
Posts: 4,376
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR#9 View Post
hey Larry, I was going to shoot you a PM but it looks like your not turned on to recieve them so I was wondering if your going to the Caps game Sat in DC?

I'm heading down for the weekend and I'm in sec 120 in the 4th row off the glass..we should grab a beer if your going.
Hey JR, would love to and was actually thinking about going to the game but got both an all day wreslting tournament and a soccer tryout to attend....Damn kids...have fun..I've been to a few Cap games..They play a spirited game and boith Semin and Ovechkin are fun to watch...And I'm sure Orr will be in for Brashear.

Larry Melnyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:23 PM
  #33
Melrose_Jr.
Registered User
 
Melrose_Jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Providence, RI
Country: United States
Posts: 10,692
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedrngrblue View Post
You don't think that Betts would work better than Krog in that line scenario. I think he could do some good things with Hossa and Jagr to the left and right of him.
Well, he was never able to get Shanny the puck, so I'm not sure what will be different about playing with Jagr on his right instead. Just a guess on my part though.

Melrose_Jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:23 PM
  #34
Nich
Registered User
 
Nich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wantagh
Country: Croatia
Posts: 6,895
vCash: 500





Nich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:24 PM
  #35
LamborGREENie
 
LamborGREENie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,052
vCash: 500
These should be the lines:

Avery-Nylander-Shanahan
Prucha-Cullen-Jagr
Straka-Krog-Ortmeyer
Hossa-Betts-Hollweg

LamborGREENie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:27 PM
  #36
bleedrngrblue
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fayetteville,N.C.
Country: United States
Posts: 792
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melrose_Jr. View Post
Well, he was never able to get Shanny the puck, so I'm not sure what will be different about playing with Jagr on his right instead. Just a guess on my part though.
I'd think he'd feel less pressure since Jagr likes to carry the puck so much and he'd get into the flow more, instead of just making ugly passes and dumping the puck, he might actually get some on ice clarity of vision, and become more productive. I still think Betts is a better player than hes shown us.

bleedrngrblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:28 PM
  #37
dank
Registered User
 
dank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,867
vCash: 500
you get Hossa who like Jagr can carry the puck around.. why are they on the same line..?

you get a speedy Cullen and speedy Straka.. why are they on the same line?

why is Prucha on the 4th line?

why is Krog still here?

dank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:28 PM
  #38
Parrish
Registered User
 
Parrish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Decatur; Indiana
Country: United States
Posts: 1,481
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Parrish
Idk how Krog has been playing. Jagr can turn a bad playuer into a productive one though. Id give him a lil time. Krog could very wellcatch onto playing with this guy. Somtimes learning to play with your linemates and utilze them is half the game bing played. Good teams learn to mesh.

IF i repeat IF any of your guys were kept with Jagr for half a season you would know who fits and who dosnt.

BTW, why are Jagr and Straka separated? When I used to watch the ?Pens these guys were unbelievable beside each other. I actually always looked at Straka as a mediocre player, but with the right linemates a great one. He had nice speed and was one of few guys the pens could get to keep up with Jags.

Parrish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:28 PM
  #39
DontStaal
Registered User
 
DontStaal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Country: United States
Posts: 1,750
vCash: 500
Nich

haha.. but seriously, If Renney mixes up the lines like last time, we'll see different combinations. So I wouldn't take those as permanent.

EDIT: I know we got a lot of computer guys here. How bout editing Ms. Avery into rangers uni!?!


Last edited by DontStaal: 02-08-2007 at 03:36 PM.
DontStaal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:31 PM
  #40
abev
HFBoards Sponsor
 
abev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 3,591
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyPlayer101 View Post
These should be the lines:

Avery-Nylander-Shanahan
Prucha-Cullen-Jagr
Straka-Krog-Ortmeyer
Hossa-Betts-Hollweg
Money, I dont mind those. And I dont mind Krog as 2nd line center either. Problem is Cullen had his chance. No reason why Krog cant have a shot.

Funny how Avery isn't even a 2nd line winger, but no one even blinks when he's on the first line.

Some of you guys make it seem like the Rangers haven't lost a game all season and Renney is intentionally setting them up to fail.

__________________
Fantasy sports betting at FakePuppy - Pick moneylines, over/unders and spreads. Totally free.
abev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:35 PM
  #41
nyr7andcounting
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,919
vCash: 500
Glad to see they're splitting up the Straka-Nylander-Jagr line.

Those lines don't look bad except for Krog. If we had a solid player instead of him our 12 forwards would be pretty freegin good right now

nyr7andcounting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:43 PM
  #42
NYR94
Registered User
 
NYR94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,751
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to NYR94
oh God these lines are brutal. I know this team needs more balanced scoring but Straka's effectiveness decreases immensely when he's taken off of Jagr's line. Nylander and Straka suffer more by being removed from Jagr than Krog and Hossa improve by being added to him. Bad idea by Renney.

NYR94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:43 PM
  #43
Melrose_Jr.
Registered User
 
Melrose_Jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Providence, RI
Country: United States
Posts: 10,692
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedrngrblue View Post
I still think Betts is a better player than hes shown us.
But I don't think he's a better playmaker than he's shown though.

Ideally, I think you're better off giving Jagr a puck carrying center who can get him the puck when he finds his space and time.

That said, if Betts consistently goes to the net on inevitable Jagr shots from the outside, he's bound to find some garbage down there. I don't really think he has it in him though.

Melrose_Jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:44 PM
  #44
Levitate
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,044
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedrngrblue View Post
I understand Renneys thinking, but its still hard to swallow the idea of krog on the second line. Renney is trying to balance the offense and spread the scorers out, but like I said, Krog as second line center is really hard to justify, I'd rather see Betts there than Krog.
Rather than highlighting any coaching deficiencies of Renny's, this highlights the huge lack of depth the Rangers have at center.

If it's not Krog, it's Betts, who's just as out of position there. If it's not either of them, it's Cullen, who has already failed in that spot for all intents and purposes.

Levitate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:56 PM
  #45
Larry Melnyk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Gloomsville, USA
Posts: 4,376
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levitate View Post
Rather than highlighting any coaching deficiencies of Renny's, this highlights the huge lack of depth the Rangers have at center.

If it's not Krog, it's Betts, who's just as out of position there. If it's not either of them, it's Cullen, who has already failed in that spot for all intents and purposes.
And why the move all along should have been either trading for a 2nd C or letting a youngster run with it..Given that, IMO, IMMO is lacking and Dubinsky could use more development in the AHL, that left the trade as the only option. Unless, we completley tank in the next week, I still think we make that deal but I also think it might be too late now...

Larry Melnyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 03:59 PM
  #46
Fletch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 21,469
vCash: 500
It does highlight...

the lack of depth, Levitate, but interestingly enough, the lines seemed to look better and make more sense with Immonen, as slow-footed as he may be, as the second line center, and the second line PP, in the two PP chances he had, actually moved the puck well because the kid is a very good passer and his lack of speed doesn't show when he's down low on the PP. Further, that's where he gets most of his points in HFD, and he does a darn good job. Again, not ideal, barely good, but just makes the most sense, and what you try to do is make the best of what you have, and time and again, I'm not sure Renney does that.

Fletch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 04:16 PM
  #47
polako
Registered User
 
polako's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Country: Lebanon
Posts: 1,178
vCash: 500
Building on what you wrote, Fletch

I think it would be in the best interest of the team to play Immonen on the second line.

Playing a similar amount of games and having relatively comparable numbers, I think it's safe to say that Krog is going to offer no more than Immonen can...the only benefit perhaps being that he is a faster player, which can be offset by the fact that Immonen is a younger player.

In this case of line shuffling, why not insert Immonen in for Krog on the second line? Best case scenario is that they click, and Immonen has built up some more equity for himself on this team. Worst case...they stink, nothing new. But, even if management doesn't view Immonen as part of the team's future, I'm sure playing him with Jagr and finding some success could increase his value slightly if they are looking to move him.

polako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 04:17 PM
  #48
TomLaidlaw
Registered User
 
TomLaidlaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Transylvania
Country: Romania
Posts: 3,176
vCash: 500
Possibly the worst line combos I have ever seen. It looks like he just picked names out of a hat

TomLaidlaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 04:23 PM
  #49
JayMan82
Registered User
 
JayMan82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 1,307
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by polako View Post
I think it would be in the best interest of the team to play Immonen on the second line.

Playing a similar amount of games and having relatively comparable numbers, I think it's safe to say that Krog is going to offer no more than Immonen can...the only benefit perhaps being that he is a faster player, which can be offset by the fact that Immonen is a younger player.

In this case of line shuffling, why not insert Immonen in for Krog on the second line? Best case scenario is that they click, and Immonen has built up some more equity for himself on this team. Worst case...they stink, nothing new. But, even if management doesn't view Immonen as part of the team's future, I'm sure playing him with Jagr and finding some success could increase his value slightly if they are looking to move him.
Tell me if I'm wrong guys, but didn't Jags, Prucha and Immonen play on the same line briefly and show some chemistry??? I don't remember if it was this season or last...

JayMan82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-08-2007, 04:25 PM
  #50
Nich
Registered User
 
Nich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wantagh
Country: Croatia
Posts: 6,895
vCash: 500
i believe it was immo with prucha and shanny...and i thought they did

Nich is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:05 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.