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02-08-2007, 04:35 PM
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Only good thing is separate PP units with JJ and Shanny on each of them.
5v5 lines are the worst i've seen in a while...Prucha on 4th line again?!
I'm starting to think that Renney really doesn't have a clue!

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02-08-2007, 04:36 PM
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And why the move all along should have been either trading for a 2nd C or letting a youngster run with it..Given that, IMO, IMMO is lacking and Dubinsky could use more development in the AHL, that left the trade as the only option. Unless, we completley tank in the next week, I still think we make that deal but I also think it might be too late now...
Yes, I think they're probably still looking for a 2nd line center at this point. But I'd wager their first hope is to find a player they can get who will fill that spot and also help the team for years to come. In other words, not just a rental for this year, in case it is too late.

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the lack of depth, Levitate, but interestingly enough, the lines seemed to look better and make more sense with Immonen, as slow-footed as he may be, as the second line center, and the second line PP, in the two PP chances he had, actually moved the puck well because the kid is a very good passer and his lack of speed doesn't show when he's down low on the PP. Further, that's where he gets most of his points in HFD, and he does a darn good job. Again, not ideal, barely good, but just makes the most sense, and what you try to do is make the best of what you have, and time and again, I'm not sure Renney does that.
Yes, but the Rangers have already shown they're not going to use Immonen, so I don't even consider it worthwhile to assume he's an option at this point. That's a whole other argument entirely at this point.

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02-08-2007, 04:38 PM
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I understand that, Levitate...

was just pointing out that I thought it highlighted the lack of depth and Renney's coaching deficiencies.

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02-08-2007, 04:55 PM
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and Prucha on the 4th line..

again..


if i was Prucha Id ask for a trade.

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02-08-2007, 05:10 PM
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Right stuff

Straka-Nylander-Jagr
Hossa- ?? -Shanahan
Avery-Cullen-Prucha
Hollweg-Betts-Ortmeyer

Malik-Rosival
Tyutin-Ward
Pock-Girardi

2nd line center and solid hard hitting Dman and this line up would be solid!

Dump Hall and Orr and bring us what we need.


PP1
Prucha-Nylander-Jagr
Straka-Rosie
PP2
Hossa-Avery-Shanny
Cullen-Pock/Rachunek

PK1
Betts-Orty
Tyutin-Ward
PK2
Cullen-Avery
Malik-Rosie

PULEEZ ALREADY WITH THE REDICULOUS COMBOS...

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02-08-2007, 05:30 PM
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Again...pretty solid lines...love the balance. Rolling 4 lines...just gotta match up probably. Not gonna revamp em and say what I'd think so using what Renney's going with I'll change it very slightly:

Avery-Nylander-Shanny
Hossa-Straka-Jagr
Prucha-Cullen-Ortmeyer
Hollweg-Betts-Orr

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02-08-2007, 05:38 PM
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What kind of line combo is that? We may as well put King Henrik at 2nd line and call up Montoya to be goalie.

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02-08-2007, 05:43 PM
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Prucha on the 4th!?

Avery-Nylander-Shanny
Prucha-Straka-Jagr
Hossa-Cullen-Ort
Krog-Betts-Hollweg

I don't know if those are good lines or not but my pet monkey just picked those out of a hat.

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02-08-2007, 05:44 PM
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If the Krog 2.0 Experiment doesnt work out, I say its time to scratch the kid... bring up Callahan and plug him on a line with Shanny and Avery.

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02-08-2007, 05:46 PM
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Only good thing is separate PP units with JJ and Shanny on each of them.
5v5 lines are the worst i've seen in a while...Prucha on 4th line again?!
I'm starting to think that Renney really doesn't have a clue!
Your just starting to think he doesnt have a clue?

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02-08-2007, 05:52 PM
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one more Q:

How could Immonen be any worse for our lineup than Jason Krog? maybe put him with Avery, but not Shanny? (if he's intimidated by Shanahan).

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Who's watching The Girl Nextdoor tonight. mmmmmmm
Nice idea, I shall pop the DVD in now.

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02-08-2007, 06:21 PM
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as per Sam's blog

Avery-Nylander-Shanahan
Hossa-Krog-Jagr
Straka-Cullen-Ortmeyer
Prucha-Betts-Hollweg

http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/

thoughts?
Who numbered thoose lines?

I think Nylander is in a good enviroment for him, he usually plays his best hockey with two guys like Avery and Shanahan.

Jagr, my problem with the 2nd line is playing Hossa with JJ. Marcel can't shoot the puck, he got a extremely uneffective shoot. It might be possible that Krog can finnish of some plays, but I don't like that line.

Straka-Cullen-Ortmayer will probably be a pretty effective checkingline (!). I think it will be really hard to substain any kind of offense against that line. They are really fast on the counterattack, they got Orts who is great at breakin up plays.

It will be interesting to see Holly on RW on the 4th line.

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02-08-2007, 06:23 PM
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If the Krog 2.0 Experiment doesnt work out, I say its time to scratch the kid... bring up Callahan and plug him on a line with Shanny and Avery.
The Rangers would have to send someone down or waive them to call someone up...I think.

For some reason, it seems like they don't want to waive Krog and lose him, though I'm not sure why.

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02-08-2007, 06:26 PM
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i wouldnt mind forsberg for a 2nd & some cash. :-) for that second line center spot

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02-08-2007, 06:47 PM
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Maybe this

Hossa-Straka-Jagr (The Chovak line)
Callahan- Nylander -Shanahan (The Nanahan line)
Avery-Cullen-Prucha (The CAP line)
Hollweg-Betts-Ortmeyer (The HBO line)

Malik-Rosival
Tyutin-Ward
Pock-Girardi

This might do it??
HELLLLLZ YEAH..

Is Renny reading this??

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02-08-2007, 06:49 PM
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It seems as though any combination that Renney puts together is goin to upset the majority of people. Honestly I have no problem with tryin to spread some scoring and gettin 4 lines rolling...The rangers have played their best hockey when rolling 4 lines (like when Orr is out of the lineup). Renney has finally separted Jagr and Shanahan and put Cullen at the point on the powerplay. I know everyone is infatuated with Immonen but generally I think Krog has been pretty serviceable wherever line he was placed on, and has looked very good at setting up plays. I think having Hossa and Jagr on the same line will do good things because they are both very good along the boards, why not give it a chance. I can definitely see Avery and Shanahan grinding out there and getting chemistry. Nylander is a set up guy and Shanahan is a finisher, it makes sense to me at least.....I think each line has a good possibility of getting some points. Thats just my feeling

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02-08-2007, 07:09 PM
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Czechoslovakian Krog. Sounds like good beer to me
I'll Drink to that

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This Krog experiment has to end.
Please I know he has a goal but he makes Hossa look like Howe

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Who numbered thoose lines?

I think Nylander is in a good enviroment for him, he usually plays his best hockey with two guys like Avery and Shanahan.

Jagr, my problem with the 2nd line is playing Hossa with JJ. Marcel can't shoot the puck, he got a extremely uneffective shoot. It might be possible that Krog can finnish of some plays, but I don't like that line.

Straka-Cullen-Ortmayer will probably be a pretty effective checkingline (!). I think it will be really hard to substain any kind of offense against that line. They are really fast on the counterattack, they got Orts who is great at breakin up plays.

It will be interesting to see Holly on RW on the 4th line.
Then your wasting Straka on a checking line when he belongs on a line with scores

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02-08-2007, 07:41 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with those lines. I say go for it.

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Hossa-Straka-Jagr (The Chovak line)
Callahan- Nylander -Shanahan (The Nanahan line)
Avery-Cullen-Prucha (The CAP line)
Hollweg-Betts-Ortmeyer (The HBO line)
i like......seriously, we need to trade Orr for a 7th rounder and be done with him

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02-08-2007, 07:58 PM
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God Ive defended Renney but man cmon dude enough is enough, I cant take it anymore!
Whats the Deal with Scotty Bowman??

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02-08-2007, 08:17 PM
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I believe in balance...

but I don't believe balance means putting an unskilled grinder with a scorer. Balance would be having Straka center Jagr and Prucha and Nylander center Shanny and another winger, and Cullen with Avery, etc. Balancing a defensive guy with scoring gyus, playmakers with scorers, and some grinders. If Jagr's success is based on finesse, putting a guy that cannot complement his finesse won't do squat. A shift here and there is one thing; an entire game for the next 28 is another.

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02-08-2007, 08:20 PM
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Renney doesnt know what he's doing. Putting Cullen out there for the shootout the other night might have been the dumbest thing he has done this season. I dont care if Jags isnt a 100 percent healthy or if he hasnt been great in shootouts, he is one of the best players in the world and matt cullen is a guy with less than 20 points this season. If were gonna lose a shootout lets lose with our best. Even Hossa would have been a better choice than Cullen.

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