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C John Tavares (2009, 1st overall, NYI) I & II

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02-08-2007, 07:52 AM
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Probably. Maybe not next year, but the year after for sure (which I think is his draft year 09).

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02-08-2007, 07:58 AM
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No, not that much.There's a limit to everything, and I don't see any junior player ever making close to 200 points in a season.

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No, not that much.There's a limit to everything, and I don't see any junior player ever making close to 200 points in a season.
yeah i agree. its not the 80's anymore. crosby would probably have made it had he stayed in the Q, but everyone who racks up 120-150 points in he's draft year or any year for that matter wont stay in juniors the next year.

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02-08-2007, 04:40 PM
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Probably. Maybe not next year, but the year after for sure (which I think is his draft year 09).
200 Points, I dont think so

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02-08-2007, 05:04 PM
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Not in the OHL. I dont think it will ever happen again unless its in the Q.

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02-08-2007, 05:14 PM
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Ok, maybe not 200pts..but he'll come damn close IMO, especially with 2 more years in that league (if healthy).

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Not in the OHL. I dont think it will ever happen again unless its in the Q.
Agreed. Brad Richards came close a few years ago when he got 186, but I don't see it happening in the other leagues, especially the WHL.

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02-08-2007, 05:45 PM
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Chances are, unless some changes are made to the personnel, they'll continue to be without a paddle next year as well. Unless Gagne decides to be the next Mark Messier...
The Flyers will have near 25 mil in cap space for next year and about 6 positions to fill. That could easily mean Forsberg, Drury/Briere/Gomez, Markov, and Hannan. I expect it to be a busy off-season and I expect to make the playoffs.

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Agreed. Brad Richards came close a few years ago when he got 186, but I don't see it happening in the other leagues, especially the WHL.
yeah i agree. i dont think it will ever happen in the WHL.

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02-08-2007, 08:21 PM
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I say 170 tops

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I wouldn't bet against it.

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He will certainly miss a handful of games at Christmas with the World Juniors. Let's say he misses 10 games. If healthy, he would play a maximum of 58 games in a season. That's rougly 3.5 PPG, good luck with that.

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02-08-2007, 09:11 PM
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He will certainly miss a handful of games at Christmas with the World Juniors. Let's say he misses 10 games. If healthy, he would play a maximum of 58 games in a season. That's rougly 3.5 PPG, good luck with that.
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I'm not talking about this year, but by 2008-09 can he reach 200 or more points? Mario had 282 points in his draft year, and to put it in perpective Crosby had 168 although Tavares will be almost a year older by his draft year than Crosby was.

But anyways do you think it can happen?

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02-08-2007, 09:22 PM
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Right. Is the World Juniors cancelled for next season?

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02-08-2007, 09:30 PM
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Right. Is the World Juniors cancelled for next season?
Tavares has two more years of eligibility though, since his draft year is in '09. I wouldn't put it past him to score at that that sort of pace in '08-'09 given his prodigious start.

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02-08-2007, 11:05 PM
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Not in the OHL. I dont think it will ever happen again unless its in the Q.
Pretty sure the OHL has more goals then the so called "poor defense" q.

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02-09-2007, 05:41 AM
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Pretty sure the OHL has more goals then the so called "poor defense" q.
I might be wrong but I think it averages more than 1 goal more per game compared to the time when Crosby was playing.

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I might be wrong but I think it averages more than 1 goal more per game compared to the time when Crosby was playing.
During Crosby's time: (per team)

WHL 2.83 goals per game

OHL 3.17 goals per game

QMJHL 3.24 goals per game

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02-09-2007, 04:56 PM
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I was thinking earlier this year, that if Travares played a full 68 game schedule in his draft year he could pot 100 goals. That sounds ridiculous but he could do it. Too bad he'll likely play only 50-55 games due to other commitments, possible injury time etc.

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02-09-2007, 05:02 PM
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Sorry, i'm not a prospect nerdling, but what is Tavares? I alway thought this was....


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02-09-2007, 06:19 PM
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yeah i agree. i dont think it will ever happen in the WHL.
Ray Ferraro had 192 points for Brandon in 1983-84. These things go in cycles and the W could be the high-scoring league again someday.

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02-09-2007, 06:38 PM
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Ray Ferraro had 192 points for Brandon in 1983-84. These things go in cycles and the W could be the high-scoring league again someday.
Pretty sure Rob Brown had 212points in his last year in the dub.

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02-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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Sorry, i'm not a prospect nerdling, but what is Tavares? I alway thought this was....

Man, I'd rather be a "prospect nerdling" as you say, than know about those dudes. Those are some ugly threads. Looks like Evil Knievel meets the Jackson Five.

OK, seriously. You really don't know who he is?

Tavares is an awesome hockey player. Got an exemption to play major junior early and is lighting up the OHL.

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/s...er.php?id=4302

Cheers.

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02-11-2007, 12:47 PM
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Who is Tavares?

Hey, I really know nothing about prospects so go easy on me here. There were a few references to this guy on the NHL board, but I've never heard of him...How do you think he compares to Crosby? Thanks.

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As far as I know he is more of a shooter than Crosby is.

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