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Who's better Tavares or Stamkos?

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01-08-2007, 10:13 AM
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Is Tavares a bigger "no brainer" #1 than Jason Spezza and Mike Ricci were?
There is that Kuchin kid in Russia...

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01-08-2007, 11:39 AM
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That's impressive!

P.S does anyone know who Fredrik Csisar is?Or heard of him?
Yep. A Norwegian kid, pretty good I think, haven't sen him play, he's going to play college for Nebraska-Omaha.

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07-23-2007, 10:07 AM
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I just think that after hype like that he should be breaking some records, not just being amazing.
Found this old thread and re-reading it was kind of funny.

To the quoted poster...how about breaking Gretzky's goal record as a 16 year old? That a good enough record for you?

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I find it ironic

that the poster didn't continue the argument once john stopped playing with one arm ties behind his back and smashed stampkos im the points/awards race

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09-07-2007, 08:54 PM
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Stamkos or Tavares?

I thought Tavares had the clearly higher upside, but:

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"If John Tavares were eligible for the 2008 draft and it was being held on Saturday, where would he rank on the lists they just submitted?"

The strong consensus is at No. 2, just behind Sarnia sniper Steven Stamkos. Tavares accumulated 91 voting points. Stamkos had 100; and Drew Doughty 88.

Three scouts did say they would take Tavares first overall.

"You can't look past 72 goals as a 16 year old," one scout said. "He's only going to get better. He's so focused. He is so determined to score goals and make goals happen that he won't be denied."

But five scouts pegged him at No. 2 and two others ranked him at No. 3. So seven of 10 scouts surveyed, as of today, would take Stamkos over Tavares.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=217783&hubname=

Agree with TSN? Disagree?

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09-07-2007, 09:47 PM
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09-08-2007, 12:14 AM
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Your kidding right? Tavares won the CHL Rookie of the Year Award as a 15 year old. And you are actually comparing them?
It's interesting now that this question has actually come up and when I posted this waaay back, some people thought it was a ******** question, but now it may not be? Very interesting with these two '90 born kids.

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Could someone please tell me whether Stamkos would be able to play for the World championships in December?? And if not, then why not??

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09-08-2007, 11:09 AM
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So the scouts have spoken...not that they're always correct, mind you...

but basically, the only way for Tavares' agent to be justified in demanding NHL to bend the rules would be for young JT to accomplish something truly remarkable next year...say something like netting 120 goals or breaking 300 pts in a season or something to that effect...

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if your interested in what some of the scouts say about Stamkos vs Tavares read this

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=217783&hubname=

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09-09-2007, 04:25 PM
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tavares is one of those player whose not fansy and gets the job done and stamkos is fancy and gets the job done. i can see why you are asking this question,now alot of people are gonna say tavares by a mile but stamkos is a much more dynamic player. i'd probely take tavares but not by alot

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09-09-2007, 04:26 PM
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btw stamkos has a good attitude unlike tavares and i know both personally ive trained with both.

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btw stamkos has a good attitude unlike tavares and i know both personally ive trained with both.
Rediculous statement. He just has a bad attitude? In regards to what? In general?

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Honestly, I'm slightly hoping that the Islanders tank one of the next two years, because Tavares and Stamkos seem like the type of future stars that could save their franchise ala Crosby in Pittsburgh. As for which one is better, it's pretty close right now, but Tavares has definitely been hyped more than Stamkos has.

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09-09-2007, 04:39 PM
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Rediculous statement. He just has a bad attitude? In regards to what? In general?
The fact that he's pushing to get into the draft this year is going to negatively impact his public standing...

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09-09-2007, 04:49 PM
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Rediculous statement. He just has a bad attitude? In regards to what? In general?
im talking about things that dont even have to do with hockey that i shouldnt mention.

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09-09-2007, 04:52 PM
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im talking about things that dont even have to do with hockey that i shouldnt mention.

then do the world a favour and don't.

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09-09-2007, 09:20 PM
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then do the world a favour and don't.

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10-30-2007, 07:49 PM
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Stamkos vs Tavares

TSN has an article on it's website debating whether or not Tavares would be the number 1 pick in this ut year's draft. 7/10 scouts say Stamkos would be their choice. I know Stamkos is a great player and should be a star in the NHL someday but how do you pass up on a talent like Tavares. Tavares is a talent that doesn;t come along very often. These scouts may say this now but i think they would change their tune on the actual draft day. I know the argument is insignificant since they won't be drafted in the same year but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=217783&hubname=nhl

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10-30-2007, 08:00 PM
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TSN has an article on it's website debating whether or not Tavares would be the number 1 pick in this ut year's draft. 7/10 scouts say Stamkos would be their choice. I know Stamkos is a great player and should be a star in the NHL someday but how do you pass up on a talent like Tavares. Tavares is a talent that doesn;t come along very often. These scouts may say this now but i think they would change their tune on the actual draft day. I know the argument is insignificant since they won't be drafted in the same year but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=217783&hubname=nhl
Several threads on this -- this article is nearly two months old.

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call me crazy but i'd pick stamkos

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call me crazy but i'd pick stamkos
It isnt crazy but its a huge gamble. Nothing against Stamkos he's a fairly safe pick but you can argue that Pieterangelo or Doughty will be picked ahead of him for the '08 draft. With Tavares it's almost a lights out lock that he's #1 in '09.

His numbers just cant be ignored. I mean I know a lot of people have pointed out his flaws and while there are some for some reason this kid just scores and scores and scores. If he was just piling up points on the powerplay then that might be a problem but he does it everywhere. He scores shorthanded, he scores even strength and he scores on the PP. He did this last year and he's doing it again this year too.

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"It wouldn't be fair to say scouts are concerned that Tavares' skating, deemed to be average at this point..."


Wow. This is a mirror image of what was said about Jason Spezza. Probably almost word for word.

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I would take Pietrangelo I think from NJ's perspctive. Defensmen are hard to come by in the NHL.

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