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02-09-2014, 04:49 PM
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Liked this story when I read it.

Nov 20, 2012

Sure, they might have some talent, but the best athletes don’t get to where they are without hard work. Ryan Van Stralen is proof.

A 6-foot-3 power forward with a blistering shot and a nose for the net, the Ottawa 67’s winger would be hard to miss on the ice even if he wasn’t an elite player. But heading into the first weekend of November, the Prescott native was on a roll, picking up three points in four games since returning from a shoulder injury.


Obviously this is a little (a lot of) puffery but he's out there and allegedly he's a hard worker.

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watch the Flyers select him.. it wouldnt shock me.. Rangers should draft these type of forwards.
I agree. Time to get some size and nastiness out of our drafts.

Cooper has a great frame, 6' 3", 205 lbs. Could fill out 10 more maybe. Hits real hard, is responsible, great fighter. Definitely pretty high on him.

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Liked this story when I read it.

Nov 20, 2012

Sure, they might have some talent, but the best athletes donít get to where they are without hard work. Ryan Van Stralen is proof.

A 6-foot-3 power forward with a blistering shot and a nose for the net, the Ottawa 67ís winger would be hard to miss on the ice even if he wasnít an elite player. But heading into the first weekend of November, the Prescott native was on a roll, picking up three points in four games since returning from a shoulder injury.


Obviously this is a little (a lot of) puffery but he's out there and allegedly he's a hard worker.

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I haven't seen him, but I'm not impressed at all with his numbers. 39 points in the OHL as a 6' 3" 20 year old is not good.

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02-10-2014, 05:10 PM
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I know I keep beating a dead horse with this guy, but does anyone know about or like goaltender Luka Gracnar? Has impressive stats in Austria and is representing Slovenia in the Olympics.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=41381

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If we are looking at any overagers, I'd consider Colby Cave.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=84424

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Liked this story when I read it.

Nov 20, 2012

Sure, they might have some talent, but the best athletes donít get to where they are without hard work. Ryan Van Stralen is proof.

A 6-foot-3 power forward with a blistering shot and a nose for the net, the Ottawa 67ís winger would be hard to miss on the ice even if he wasnít an elite player. But heading into the first weekend of November, the Prescott native was on a roll, picking up three points in four games since returning from a shoulder injury.


Obviously this is a little (a lot of) puffery but he's out there and allegedly he's a hard worker.

Has anybody watched him play?
i havent seen much of him, but Rangers outside of Kreider they dont have much power forwards.. i love seeing a lot of teams able to draft these type except the Rangers although i feel bad for the Canes, Ruutu for Ladd

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If we are looking at any overagers, I'd consider Colby Cave.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=84424
Why? He's worth an AHL contract, maybe. I wouldn't waste a NHL contract on him.

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Why? He's worth an AHL contract, maybe. I wouldn't waste a NHL contract on him.
Agreed. Definitely worth a shot. I'm sure someone will draft him though.

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02-17-2014, 08:08 AM
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It looks like the drop off between the 12-15th picks is going to be massive. Reinhart and Ekblad are cementing themselves as the consensus top 2. Bennett, Draisaitl, and Dal Colle will round out the top 5. The third tier is made up of Ritchie, Perlini, Fleury, Nylander, McCann, Ehlers, and Kapanen. Someone will gamble on Honka before #15. Unless the Rangers trade up, they'll be on the outside looking in on the big gamers.

Where the Rangers are standing right now, David Pastrnak, Alex Tuch, or Roland McKeown would be my pick.

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It looks like the drop off between the 12-15th picks is going to be massive. Reinhart and Ekblad are cementing themselves as the consensus top 2. Bennett, Draisaitl, and Dal Colle will round out the top 5. The third tier is made up of Ritchie, Perlini, Fleury, Nylander, McCann, Ehlers, and Kapanen. Someone will gamble on Honka before #15. Unless the Rangers trade up, they'll be on the outside looking in on the big gamers.

Where the Rangers are standing right now, David Pastrnak, Alex Tuch, or Roland McKeown would be my pick.
I think this seems logical. I like what I've read about Sonny Milano too.

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Ehlers has made amazing progress. Will be shocked if he doesn't go top 10.

I might be tempted to go with Ho-Sang or Barbashev if we draft around 20.

What do you guys think of potential 2nd round picks? I like Alexis Vanier, and Jack Dougherty as potentials.

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02-17-2014, 08:21 AM
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Sonny Milano has top line offensive potential and could fall.

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02-17-2014, 08:30 AM
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I think there's an off-chance that the Rangers could roll the dice on DeAngelo. He's the type of defender who could really flourish in an attacking system. Scherbak and Goldobin are also very skilled players up front. However, I think Tuch really looks like a Rangers' pick. Character kid coming out of the USNTDP. It'll be interesting to see if the drafting strategy changes this year with a new system in place.

Edit: I just read about DeAngelo getting smacked with an 8 game suspension for violating the league's harassment/abuse/diversity policy. Count him out as a first round selection.


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Sonny Milano has top line offensive potential and could fall.
Tuch and Milano are both BC recruits. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Rangers take him if they're picking in the 20's. Right now they stand at 17th, that would be too soon for Milano. He can be had anywhere from 25-40, IMO. I don't know much about him other than that he's fast and has good puck skills, anyone have more info on him?

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Ehlers has made amazing progress. Will be shocked if he doesn't go top 10.

I might be tempted to go with Ho-Sang or Barbashev if we draft around 20.

What do you guys think of potential 2nd round picks? I like Alexis Vanier, and Jack Dougherty as potentials.
Ehlers will go right where he should, right around 10-14. His size will scare the top 10 teams off. Someone has to take Fleury. Edmonton can use a guy like him in the worst way; Ekblad would be even better. I think Ritchie, Perlini, and Fleury all go before Ehlers. 9th overall or so isn't out of the question.

Agree on Dougherty. Keep drafting Americans in the 2nd round. A guy like Jack Glover may fall right into our laps, as well. Another guy to look out for is Brayden Point, small at 5'9", but very skilled, putting up good points on a bad Moose Jaw team.

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Fleury and Nylander are incredibly risky picks so high in the draft.

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Fleury and Nylander are incredibly risky picks so high in the draft.
Agree on Nylander, disagree on Fleury. Fleury is actually one of the safest picks in the 1st round. His frame and reach make him a guaranteed NHL'er. The debate is whether he'll become a top 3 shutdown D a la Marc Staal, or a bottom pairing journeyman.

Someone will gamble on Nylander early because of the name. The fact that a line made up of two 18 year olds has had dominant stretches of play in the third best league in the world speaks volumes. Ever since Nylander switched teams and played on a line with Pastrnak, the two have been magic to watch according to reports.

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Agree on Nylander, disagree on Fleury. Fleury is actually one of the safest picks in the 1st round. His frame and reach make him a guaranteed NHL'er. The debate is whether he'll become a top 3 shutdown D a la Marc Staal, or a bottom pairing journeyman.

Someone will gamble on Nylander early because of the name. The fact that a line made up of two 18 year olds has had dominant stretches of play in the third best league in the world speaks volumes. Ever since Nylander switched teams and played on a line with Pastrnak, the two have been magic to watch according to reports.
Oh **** me, it's early. I meant Nylander and Kapanen. Getting bad with the former-NHLer-names here.

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I think there's an off-chance that the Rangers could roll the dice on DeAngelo. He's the type of defender who could really flourish in an attacking system. Scherbak and Goldobin are also very skilled players up front. However, I think Tuch really looks like a Rangers' pick. Character kid coming out of the USNTDP. It'll be interesting to see if the drafting strategy changes this year with a new system in place.

Edit: I just read about DeAngelo getting smacked with an 8 game suspension for violating the league's harassment/abuse/diversity policy. Count him out as a first round selection.
How is Tuch's skating ? I would not at all be opposed to another big forward with speed.

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Am I the only one who is really interested in Anton Karlsson?

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What about someone like Adrian Kempe, Dylan Larkin, or Conner Bleackley?

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I think there's an off-chance that the Rangers could roll the dice on DeAngelo. He's the type of defender who could really flourish in an attacking system. Scherbak and Goldobin are also very skilled players up front. However, I think Tuch really looks like a Rangers' pick. Character kid coming out of the USNTDP. It'll be interesting to see if the drafting strategy changes this year with a new system in place.

Edit: I just read about DeAngelo getting smacked with an 8 game suspension for violating the league's harassment/abuse/diversity policy. Count him out as a first round selection.
Also his defense is absolutely horrendous from what I've read and the little I saw. I don't think the Rangers would go for his type anyway.

I think Honka would be a more likely choice if the Rangers want a high upside OFD.

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Am I the only one who is really interested in Anton Karlsson?
He's one of the guys I know least about.


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What about someone like Adrian Kempe, Dylan Larkin, or Conner Bleackley?
Kempe, Larkin, Bleackley for me.

Kempe's playmaking separates him for me.

Larkin has pro size already and plays up to it, headed to Michigan.

Bleackley plays a good overall game and is not too far away from playing the pro game.

I wouldn't mind either one where weĺl be picking(if we still have our first).

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How is Tuch's skating ? I would not at all be opposed to another big forward with speed.
It's above average for a guy his size. He's not a speedster, but his ability to accelerate and change direction is a plus trait, IMO. He's also a monster around the net and along the boards.

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