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02-06-2014, 09:31 AM
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it'll be interesting to see if/how his game changes if the flyers end up making the playoffs.

if that second line starts gelling the flyers are a dangerous team.

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02-06-2014, 11:06 AM
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Vinny really hasn't been awful when healthy. There's just no room for him on the roster when everyone is healthy though. He's a center on a team with insane center depth.
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Unless someone takes him off our hands I would say slim.
As one of my favorites from the early 2000s, it's unfortunate to see his career stall like this. More and more he seems like a relic from another era who can only string together short bursts of productive hockey.

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The problem is that we have two players, Brayden Schenn and Vinny, who are far better players at C than they are at LW. I don't know what the right answer is in this case other than to hope that one of them gets better. In reality, we would strongly benefit from BOTH of them being able to play wing so that it doesn't force us into a pre-mature decision point on our current C overload (Giroux, LeCavalier, Schenn, Couturier, and Laughton are all 3C or better material as early as next season and almost certainly by 2015-2016.

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02-20-2014, 05:18 PM
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Lecavalier feeling 'a little bit better' at left wing

Grin and bear it ....I'm really not a fan of this center logjam but I know it is more pronounced this year b/c our centers have been relatively healthy....knock on wood.

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VOORHEES, N.J. -- For 14 seasons, Vinny Lecavalier was a center. It was his natural position the place on the ice in which he felt most comfortable and found the most success.

But the Flyers are a team fully stacked at center; thats been the philosophy of general manager Paul Holmgren all along. And so, Lecavalier has had to move over to wing, most recently playing on the left side on a line with Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds.

Its no wonder hes had some trouble adjusting to the change.

Im not going to lie, its been a tough adjustment, Lecavalier said. But Im focused on the last 22 games. To produce more and help the team offensively.

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-phil...tter-left-wing

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02-20-2014, 06:05 PM
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I hope his back is mostly mended with the break.

I also hope I never have to see him push Couturier to wing in the D zone ever again.

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02-20-2014, 06:20 PM
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I hope his back is mostly mended with the break.

I also hope I never have to see him push Couturier to wing in the D zone ever again.

Speaking of Couturier. He's got a sick beard nowadays.



Also, we should really try and stock up on some prospects on other positions but centers in the draft so that not every center has to become a winger in order to get icetime. Especially if the center has been a center for 14 years. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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02-21-2014, 03:47 AM
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Speaking of Couturier. He's got a sick beard nowadays.



Also, we should really try and stock up on some prospects on other positions but centers in the draft so that not every center has to become a winger in order to get icetime. Especially if the center has been a center for 14 years. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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maybe St. Louis can team up with Vinny again

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maybe St. Louis can team up with Vinny again
Shame we can't trade them Vinny for Marty.

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02-26-2014, 02:52 PM
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Shame we can't trade them Vinny for Marty.
We can after July 1st, can't we?

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02-26-2014, 03:31 PM
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Yeah, but he might be gone by then.

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I keep waiting for him to break out and still think it's coming. As a signing I thought it was a good deal, but forcing him on to the wing is poor asset management. Asset being the money that could've gone to a legit 2nd line winger. Or conversely, not forcing Brayden Schenn to play wing, or what might not be popular, trading Schenn.

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Put Vinny at C.

Trade Schenn x 2 +2nd for Perron and J. Schultz

Perron G Voracek
Hartnell Vinny Simmonds
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02-26-2014, 11:26 PM
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Put Vinny at C.

Trade Schenn x 2 +2nd for Perron and J. Schultz

Perron G Voracek
Hartnell Vinny Simmonds
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Wut?

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Put Vinny at C.

Trade Schenn x 2 +2nd for Perron and J. Schultz

Perron G Voracek
Hartnell Vinny Simmonds
Raffl Couts Read
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No thanks, Perron is a band aid & Schultz doesn't play a lick of defense.

I much rather plug Gostisbehere in the lineup for offense & not have to give up B. Schenn.

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02-28-2014, 01:34 AM
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Dear Vincent Lecavalier,

Please stop being so terrible at hockey. If this is not possible, retire.

Kindly,

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02-28-2014, 09:22 AM
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Holmgren wasn't signing vets to a young, rebuilding team for veteran presence while they lost. He was trying to compete with a team that wasn't ready to, as evidenced by one coach firing and being a fringe playoff team for the majority of the season. That's not smart.

A band-aid deal doesn't last four or five years while carrying a declining player into their late 30's. That's not a "band-aid". That's a bad contract.

No awards are given out for strictly saving cap space, but saving cap space and making good deals allows flexibility with your roster and will ensure your team isn't handcuffed long-term which can be one part of winning the President's Trophy or Stanley Cup. Which are awards.
That is why until we get another GM with a better grasp on
team building and the salary cap the Flyers are doomed.
The Flyers are years behind the top teams in the league.
Holmgren commits the same FA blunders year after year.
Washed up Vets signed for too many years with NMC or NTC.
Sign some retreads for defense and then try to make playoffs.

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02-28-2014, 09:37 AM
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I guess we know why the Lightning decided to give him $32million to not play for them. Although trying to switch to wing after playing center for so long has to be tough.




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Vinny should be the last big name FA whose better days are past him to be signed by the Flyers. The sexy but no substance signings of old vets has got to stop. I couldn't care less about all the hype it creates and how good he looks in a Flyers jersey blah blah blah. All the guy is turning out to be is a PR ploy.

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Vinny should be the last big name FA whose better days are past him to be signed by the Flyers. The sexy but no substance signings of old vets has got to stop. I couldn't care less about all the hype it creates and how good he looks in a Flyers jersey blah blah blah. All the guy is turning out to be is a PR ploy.
When your roster has Giroux, B Schenn, Couts with Laughton expected to come up in a year or so, why sign Vinny? Is our front office full of a bunch of yes men?

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When your roster has Giroux, B Schenn, Couts with Laughton expected to come up in a year or so, why sign Vinny? Is our front office full of a bunch of yes men?
If you have the money and the klout to sign something for nothing, you do it. That money won't make our team any better if it's sitting in Wells Fargo (not the center)
And if better options arise we can sell him for some small payment.

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If you have the money and the klout to sign something for nothing, you do it. That money won't make our team any better if it's sitting in Wells Fargo (not the center)
And if better options arise we can sell him for some small payment.
Yes, but when you are working with a salary cap you can't function with the attitude that if there is money you 'need' to spend it. You have to think about the future implications and you need to think about how much money and only so many spots on the roster.

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Yes, but when you are working with a salary cap you can't function with the attitude that if there is money you 'need' to spend it. You have to think about the future implications and you need to think about how much money and only so many spots on the roster.
So Gagne or some other FA?? Who would have been better without trading a roster player?

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Yes, but when you are working with a salary cap you can't function with the attitude that if there is money you 'need' to spend it. You have to think about the future implications and you need to think about how much money and only so many spots on the roster.
If they stopped spending every dollar of the salary cap, they would be able to trade
for a higher salary player without giving away draft picks or stashing players in the AHL.
And you would not have 10 centers on the Flyers 2/3 of them trying to play L and RW.

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When your roster has Giroux, B Schenn, Couts with Laughton expected to come up in a year or so, why sign Vinny? Is our front office full of a bunch of yes men?
Yes.

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